Piecemeal Armor Suits

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#1

bengeldorn

Nov 29, 2006 18:52:41
Based on some discussion that have occured lately I was thinking some piecemeal armor variations that are worn as full suits. I tried to balance these armors to those presented in the PHB, thats why I added some rules for some of them (see armor descriptions).

Armor Suits:<br /> [b]Armor AC Max- Check Spell Weight Cost<br /> Bonus Dex Penalty Failure[/b]<br /> [i]light[/i]<br /> Artist's Armor 2 6 0 5% 12 lb 15 cp<br /> Light Caravan Armor 4 3 -2 20% 16,5 lb 75 cp<br /> Light Gladiator Armor 3 6 -1 15% 12,5 lb 35 cp<br /> [i]medium[/i]<br /> Medium Gladitor Armor 4 5 -3 20% 16,5 lb 50 cp<br /> Medium Tyr-Armor 5 3 -4 30% 27,0 lb 150 gp<br /> [i]heavy[/i]<br /> Athasian Warsuit 5 1 -5 30% 25,0 lb 165 cp<br /> Tyrian Warsuit 6 1 -5 35% 40,0 lb 410 gp
#2

kalthandrix

Nov 29, 2006 23:04:14
Nice - daddy like :D

I think a new feat would be in order for the gladiator armor maybe - like an exotic armor proficiency, with gladiators gaining one at first level as part of their weapon and armor proficiencies like a bard gets to choose a weapon from a small set that they would usually not have access to. Just an idea.

Hey if you want to use the three versions of the gladiator armor that I made let me know and I will send the details - I think I may have deleted the post that I put them in here on the board.
#3

bengeldorn

Nov 29, 2006 23:36:08
Nice - daddy like :D

I'm glad to here that.....daddy;)

I think a new feat would be in order for the gladiator armor maybe - like an exotic armor proficiency, with gladiators gaining one at first level as part of their weapon and armor proficiencies like a bard gets to choose a weapon from a small set that they would usually not have access to. Just an idea.

I not realy a big fan of exotic armor proficiency ( unless maybe it would include more than one armor). I tried to avoid introducing another feat by making the armors less effcient against critical threats. I don't know if the numbers are doing their job (if those armors are too powerfull, I could increase the bonus for confirming critical threats), but I kind of liked the idea.

Hey if you want to use the three versions of the gladiator armor that I made let me know and I will send the details - I think I may have deleted the post that I put them in here on the board.

Sure, let me see what you got. I'm still looking for a decent "medium caravan armor"...maybe you've got some ideas for that too.
#4

Oninotaki

Nov 30, 2006 10:59:00
I love the descriptions of each suit, and the bonus to confirm critical hits as the downside to piecemeal armor. I just have a few comments about each set.


Light Caravan Armor: I dont think the max dex bonus should be so low. I am thinking maybe make it a +5 max dex.

Light Gladiator Armor: I like alot, no changes.

Medium Gladitor Armor: so as to not make this the same as the light caravan armor maybe change the max dex bonus to +4? That also bring it in line with other medium armors for a max ac bonus of 8.

Medium Tyr-Armor: a great suit, maybe lower arcane spell failure to 25% and add a +1 bonus to confirm critcal hits?

Tyrian Warsuit: its needs something more and a +1 bonus to confirm critical hits

Heavy Gladiator armor: I have ideas, but nothing solid because I hate the stat line for splint mail and it really messes with my ability to stat up new heavy armors. I do think no matter what you come up with you should keep the +2 to confirm critical hits.
#5

bengeldorn

Nov 30, 2006 14:19:00
I love the descriptions of each suit, and the bonus to confirm critical hits as the downside to piecemeal armor. I just have a few comments about each set.

Thanks a lot. I was concerned that the descriptions could be hard to understand, because I had to look up so many words in a dictionary. But it seems my concerns have been unreasonable.


Light Caravan Armor: I dont think the max dex bonus should be so low. I am thinking maybe make it a +5 max dex.

Well, first I had a max dex bonus of +4, but I thought this wouldn't be balanced to a chainmail.A +5 bonus is IMO too high, but I think increasing the max dex bonus to +4 while increasing the bonus to confirm criticals by 1 would be OK, I guess.

Light Gladiator Armor: I like alot, no changes.

Thanks a lot. Glad you like it.

Medium Gladitor Armor: so as to not make this the same as the light caravan armor maybe change the max dex bonus to +4? That also bring it in line with other medium armors for a max ac bonus of 8.

Maybe you are right. There aren't too many medium armors with a max dex bonus of +5, so maybe +4 would be better, but if I increase the max dex bonus of the light cravan armor, I should change something for the medium gladiator armor too, so that it wouldn't be less good as a light caravan armor. I'm thinking of reducing the bonus to confirm criticals by 1.

Medium Tyr-Armor: a great suit, maybe lower arcane spell failure to 25% and add a +1 bonus to confirm critcal hits?

I don't know. I mean, you have metal plates on your arms, and you need your arms to cast spells with somantic components. This in mind I think 25% are ok. I guess adding a +1 bonus to confirm criticals could be ok, especially comparing it with a breastplate armor.

Tyrian Warsuit: its needs something more and a +1 bonus to confirm critical hits

What do you mean with something more? This armor, although combining different materials, is a full suit. There are no holes that would justify a +1 bonus to confirm criticals IMO. Besides this armor is pretty expansive, adding the bonus would lower its use, thus I have to decrease the price, which I don't realy want to.

Heavy Gladiator armor: I have ideas, but nothing solid because I hate the stat line for splint mail and it really messes with my ability to stat up new heavy armors. I do think no matter what you come up with you should keep the +2 to confirm critical hits.

Actually, I don't really want a heavy gladiator armor, because IMO gladiators shouldn't wear heavy armor, as their fighting styles should realy on speed and special maneuvres. A gladiator in a heavy armor doesn't fit in my picture of a gladiator.


Side note: Using these armors, a part of a gladiators armor optimization ability could be to reduces the bonus to confirm criticals.

p.s.: Instead of "bonus to confirm criticals" I was thinking of adding a new column in the table called "AC-bonus vs confirming critical". What do you think?
#6

bengeldorn

Mar 20, 2007 11:40:56
I added two new suits of armor and made some changes in the armor's description.

I hope you like them.

@Pennarin: Could you add this thread to the archive, please. Thanks!