Personally I think they became Dragons at the start of the Cleansing wars for the following reasons although I know others believe they became Dragons at the emd of the wars when Borys used the Dark Lens on them.
1. They were Dragons during the Cleansing Wars in the novel Rise and Fall of a Dragon King. Also City by the Silt Sea implies Dregoth was an early stage Dragon when he captures Giustanel (sp?). If the champions become Dragons when Borys is created Dregoth was either created as a level 29 Dragon or become one exceptionally quickly.
2. The Sun changed colour. I don't really see the sun changing colour if Rajaat only made them immortal. Siphoning the suns power to create 15 Dragons at once however I could see.
Thats more or less it.
1. They were Dragons during the Cleansing Wars in the novel Rise and Fall of a Dragon King. Also City by the Silt Sea implies Dregoth was an early stage Dragon when he captures Giustanel (sp?). If the champions become Dragons when Borys is created Dregoth was either created as a level 29 Dragon or become one exceptionally quickly.
I covered that in a number of threads before (but necroposts will be difficult to find I think). However, the theory I ran with was... rather than actually eradicating the Giants, Dregoth spent a very large portion of the Cleansing Wars inventing the Dragon metamorphosis. When the rebellion was happening, at some point, Dregoth shared this knowledge with Borys as a possible means to get powerful enough to overthrow Rajaat (or some other nefarious means). Borys used the Dark Lens to advance the rebels tot he first stage of the metamorphosis, and when the decision came down to who will become a fully-transformed Dragon... Dregoth could have either nominated, or supported the idea of Borys becoming The Dragon -- probably out of curiosity as to what the metamorphosis wouold do to someone physically and mentally, and simply used Borys as a willing guinea pig of sorts.
So Dregoth would have already been down the path of the metamorphosis prior to the rebellion -- my theory is he invented the spell series/metamorphosis in the first place.
And as for RaFoaDK (Rise and Fall), while it is a great book, there are a number of inaccuracies within it -- and not completely at the fault of the author to boot.
2. The Sun changed colour. I don't really see the sun changing colour if Rajaat only made them immortal. Siphoning the suns power to create 15 Dragons at once however I could see.
Rajaat didn't merely make them immortal, but into his Champions -- individuals tasked with the charge of eradicating an entire species from the planet. Immortality is but one of the features. Check the Champion of Rajaat template for more info.
As for the age of the Sorcerer-Kings, I'd say they vary in age. Personally, I like the Lost Cities/Eldaarich supplement idea of Daskinor being one of the oldest beings on the planet, basically a body-thief of sorts through the millenia, probably older than Rajaat even. Others vary in age wildly.
My guess is that it was Dregoth who was the first of the SKs to figure it out.
I always like to make each of the SKs slightly different in appearance (and powers).
I know that they are all
of one stage or another but as the few of them that are left are unique beings, I have it in my games (and as is hinted at in quiet a few novels and sourcebooks) that each one is different.Just adds that little bit more flavour.
On the matter of SKs / dragons .......
I always like to make each of the SKs slightly different in appearance (and powers).
I know that they are all
Just adds that little bit more flavour.
I like that, as well as basically, nobody knows exactly what the effects of each stage of the spell series will bring -- especially Oronis, as there are no Avangions higher-stage than him. The dragons have some of an idea -- based on Borys and all, but even so, they are finding themselves not quite matching his appearance and form. But I like the idea that there is somewhat of a "leap of faith" that takes place on each successive casting of the metamorphosis spells -- with the spells drawing somewhat upon the true nature of the individual it is affecting.
The Trembling Plains timeline, describing the body swaps that Daskinor did as a mortal, is quite fun to read and a pretty good idea. Personally I hated that psi power until I saw how Brax and Will put it in their story.
My idea for quasi ommortality is a clone varient spell probably level 9 that grows you a new body and you die but are alive in a new younger body. The downside is you lose a level as though you have been raised but you're young again.
Where is the info for Lost Cities or is it still an in house development. Kinda annoying (in a good way)having Athas.org members referemce material I can't get hold of yet.
Still in development, but Brax had [relatively recently] posted a number of things about the project, and how it is developing on this forum -- flavor and setting material, sort of teasers. That's the material I am referencing, I just don't remember the names of the threads it all was in.