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#1
zombiegleemax
Dec 23, 2006 17:48:48 Hello all!
I was wondering, I was thinking of playing a Dragonlance campaign and I was reading about Kender. When looking to see how to roll up his height and weight and age stats, there is NOTHING in the Dragonlance Campaign Book to show what to do. Does anyone know how to do this? I was going to use the halfling stats, but they are way off as the Kender description states that Kender are 3 1/2' to 5' tall and weigh anywhere from 80 to 100 lbs. This is NOT like a halfling. I think that there is a typo in the main rule book, because at 5' a Kender would be a Medium Humanoid. Correct? Help please!
#2
markustay63
Dec 25, 2006 12:11:16 I have nothing new, but according to the 2e monstrous compendium they are 3'-4' tall. 2e stats are -1Str, +2Dex, and non-thief Kender can perform any thief skill (except read language) with a base 5% chance, and climbing at a base 40%.

Like I said, this was pulled from the generic kender in the 2e MC, so I'm sure newer information is available, but at least it's a start.
#3
darthsylver
Dec 25, 2006 21:14:37 For those of you who do not have the DM's resource( and I ask why not!!!) that comes with the Dragonlance DM Screen kender stats are starting age 15, hgt 3' 2" (m), 3" (female), +2d8 years each, wgt 90 lb. (m), 80 lbs (female) x1 lb (x 2d8 result).

If I am violating some rule, I apologize, just don't strike me down with lightning (anything else is okay).
#4
zombiegleemax
Dec 26, 2006 7:01:50 Thank you very much.
#5
zombiegleemax
Dec 26, 2006 8:29:51 Has anyone actually played a Kender in game? How difficult is it?
#6
zombiegleemax
Dec 26, 2006 16:09:07 Very. Pretty much nobody can pull off the constant state of childlike wonder at the world, the unbreakable faith in your indestructability or the kender habit of picking up anything 'neat' not nailed down with railroad spikes. What you generally get is a jaded malcontent who steals from the party and does stupid things constantly (iow, typical human). It's bad enough that most groups I've played with have a firm 'no kender' policy, and the one that didn't they had a contest going for who could collect the most kender heads while staying in character.

Oggie
#7
zombiegleemax
Dec 26, 2006 20:24:48
Very. Pretty much nobody can pull off the constant state of childlike wonder at the world, the unbreakable faith in your indestructability or the kender habit of picking up anything 'neat' not nailed down with railroad spikes. What you generally get is a jaded malcontent who steals from the party and does stupid things constantly (iow, typical human). It's bad enough that most groups I've played with have a firm 'no kender' policy, and the one that didn't they had a contest going for who could collect the most kender heads while staying in character.

Oggie

It holds to the flavor of the game, though. Virtually no NPC likes Kender! It was certainly like that in the books. Also, I think they would make better NPC's anyways.
#8
darthsylver
Dec 26, 2006 22:37:18 I played a kender for about 9 years and actually got him up to 18th level rogue in the old 2e system. I was forced to retire him.

The entire history of the group we had gone about foiling Takhisis's plots to return to the world of krynn, so she had made a deal with Chemosh for the souls of the group who would see to it that their souls would go missing after death and that the other gods would not know that their souls were missing. Well needless to say that I wound up being the first to go, unbeknowest to my character but the cleric (a cleric of mishakel) prayed for me to be spared death and to reside in her kingdom so Mishakel healed my character completely. Unfortunately my body had already been claimed by takhisis and I wound up alive and well, but in the Abyss. Of course who should I come across in my travels through the abyss, yes that is right I saw Raistlin being tortured and then fighting Takhisis. Boy was I fascinated and of course I said "Wow, I wish I could do that." What I did not know was that the ring I had picked up from that passing red robe was a ring of wishes. Needless to say when the DM said give me your character sheet I knew that it was time to retire.

I returned that character to the world of krynn however, and I use it as my DM's avatar. Mostly for comedic relief and mild nudges when the characters need it.:D :D :D :D :D
#9
zombiegleemax
Dec 27, 2006 8:50:25 Do Kender use other weapons other than the hoopak? Like do they use say, a short sword, or daggers, and the like? I've never heard of them using anything else.
#10
zombiegleemax
Dec 27, 2006 18:54:33 They use daggers, chapaks, sithaks, whippiks, many many kender weapons!
#11
darthsylver
Dec 27, 2006 19:35:59 They use battaks, bolliks, chapaks, hachaks, polpaks, sashiks, sithaks, and Whippiks as well any other that is easily carried and has multiple uses.

Battaks are studded clubs.

Bolliks are webbed belts (kinda like batman's utility belt) it is used as a bolas and as a rope and as a flail.

Chapak is a handaxe with a split back end that is used as a slingshot.

Hachak is a polearm that has a battle axe head with a mace ball on one end and a warhammer like end on th eother.

Polpak is a long bar with a dagger on one end attached to a fort like hilt.

Sashik is a sash-like weapon with beads interwoven throughout it that is used like a flail, a rope and a net.

Sithak is a bow that double as a two-bladed sword.

Whippik is a thin wand-like stick with a short length of rope with a loop on that is used to fling a variety of items.

The main thing to rember about kender and their weapons is that they tend to think of utility first and aggresive weapons second, they also like their weapons to be unique and interesting rather than simple useful or the tried and true dependable.
#12
zombiegleemax
Dec 28, 2006 9:11:38 Cool! Thanks! But would they actually use short swords and the like? Or is that something reserved for the inflicted kender?
#13
darthsylver
Dec 28, 2006 13:02:59 They might snag it if it was flashy and has some really cool looking pictures or runes on it but actually use for a weapon, I would say only if no interesting weapons or items were handy.

Yes inflicted kender would use just about anything as designed. In fact they would be more likely to use weapons that had multiple ways of being used as weapons rather than as other useful items.

I would equate inflicted kender to halflings rather than normal kender.
#14
zombiegleemax
Dec 29, 2006 7:11:26 So the aflicted kender are basically depressed kender?
#15
zombiegleemax
Dec 29, 2006 10:18:25 Are the kender weapons going to be in Races of Ansalon. It would be nice if they had pictures of them as well.
#16
shugi
Dec 29, 2006 13:08:52 Kender (and minotaur, and other) weapons should be in RoA. I'm not sure about the pictures, but I'm guessing there will be a few.
#17
zombiegleemax
Dec 29, 2006 16:35:21 I heard that the book is going to be out in February. I can hardly wait!
#18
seker
Dec 30, 2006 14:52:36 Hehe, I have played a few kender over the years, and I actually stuck with playing them the way they were in the novels.

i.e. not bloody likely to "handle" money or really valuable items and such... just interesting stuff... we even used some of the tables from the kendcyclopedia (I know I likely spelled it wrong, been forever) to figure out what I was likely to get from wandering through crowds.... and we would keep my equipment on a little table to see what I would lose too...

After all a kender is likely to leave something as pick something up, it is not like we would steal.

And just cause you are fearless does not make you stupid... childlike wonder at wanting to know what it is like to be eaten by a dragon is one thing... but you will miss out on so many other experiences if you do it too soon.

The other players started doing what Raistlin did for Tasslehoff... keeping interesting trinkets in their pouches to keep me amused. (they did not mind as I was less likely to want the valuble stuff from the treasure. Not like I was going to trade my hoopak for the magic swords or something)
#19
zombiegleemax
Dec 30, 2006 15:45:01 How did you utilize the Kender Pouches list on the Kencyclopedia?
#20
zombiegleemax
Jan 01, 2007 20:40:15 I think that there is going to be a chart or something in Races of Ansalon to help in the determination of what is in the kender pouches.

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#1 zombiegleemax Dec 23, 2006 17:48:48	Hello all! I was wondering, I was thinking of playing a Dragonlance campaign and I was reading about Kender. When looking to see how to roll up his height and weight and age stats, there is NOTHING in the Dragonlance Campaign Book to show what to do. Does anyone know how to do this? I was going to use the halfling stats, but they are way off as the Kender description states that Kender are 3 1/2' to 5' tall and weigh anywhere from 80 to 100 lbs. This is NOT like a halfling. I think that there is a typo in the main rule book, because at 5' a Kender would be a Medium Humanoid. Correct? Help please!
#2 markustay63 Dec 25, 2006 12:11:16	I have nothing new, but according to the 2e monstrous compendium they are 3'-4' tall. 2e stats are -1Str, +2Dex, and non-thief Kender can perform any thief skill (except read language) with a base 5% chance, and climbing at a base 40%. Like I said, this was pulled from the generic kender in the 2e MC, so I'm sure newer information is available, but at least it's a start.
#3 darthsylver Dec 25, 2006 21:14:37	For those of you who do not have the DM's resource( and I ask why not!!!) that comes with the Dragonlance DM Screen kender stats are starting age 15, hgt 3' 2" (m), 3" (female), +2d8 years each, wgt 90 lb. (m), 80 lbs (female) x1 lb (x 2d8 result). If I am violating some rule, I apologize, just don't strike me down with lightning (anything else is okay).
#4 zombiegleemax Dec 26, 2006 7:01:50	Thank you very much.
#5 zombiegleemax Dec 26, 2006 8:29:51	Has anyone actually played a Kender in game? How difficult is it?
#6 zombiegleemax Dec 26, 2006 16:09:07	Very. Pretty much nobody can pull off the constant state of childlike wonder at the world, the unbreakable faith in your indestructability or the kender habit of picking up anything 'neat' not nailed down with railroad spikes. What you generally get is a jaded malcontent who steals from the party and does stupid things constantly (iow, typical human). It's bad enough that most groups I've played with have a firm 'no kender' policy, and the one that didn't they had a contest going for who could collect the most kender heads while staying in character. Oggie
#7 zombiegleemax Dec 26, 2006 20:24:48	Very. Pretty much nobody can pull off the constant state of childlike wonder at the world, the unbreakable faith in your indestructability or the kender habit of picking up anything 'neat' not nailed down with railroad spikes. What you generally get is a jaded malcontent who steals from the party and does stupid things constantly (iow, typical human). It's bad enough that most groups I've played with have a firm 'no kender' policy, and the one that didn't they had a contest going for who could collect the most kender heads while staying in character. Oggie It holds to the flavor of the game, though. Virtually no NPC likes Kender! It was certainly like that in the books. Also, I think they would make better NPC's anyways.
#8 darthsylver Dec 26, 2006 22:37:18	I played a kender for about 9 years and actually got him up to 18th level rogue in the old 2e system. I was forced to retire him. The entire history of the group we had gone about foiling Takhisis's plots to return to the world of krynn, so she had made a deal with Chemosh for the souls of the group who would see to it that their souls would go missing after death and that the other gods would not know that their souls were missing. Well needless to say that I wound up being the first to go, unbeknowest to my character but the cleric (a cleric of mishakel) prayed for me to be spared death and to reside in her kingdom so Mishakel healed my character completely. Unfortunately my body had already been claimed by takhisis and I wound up alive and well, but in the Abyss. Of course who should I come across in my travels through the abyss, yes that is right I saw Raistlin being tortured and then fighting Takhisis. Boy was I fascinated and of course I said "Wow, I wish I could do that." What I did not know was that the ring I had picked up from that passing red robe was a ring of wishes. Needless to say when the DM said give me your character sheet I knew that it was time to retire. I returned that character to the world of krynn however, and I use it as my DM's avatar. Mostly for comedic relief and mild nudges when the characters need it.:D :D :D :D :D
#9 zombiegleemax Dec 27, 2006 8:50:25	Do Kender use other weapons other than the hoopak? Like do they use say, a short sword, or daggers, and the like? I've never heard of them using anything else.
#10 zombiegleemax Dec 27, 2006 18:54:33	They use daggers, chapaks, sithaks, whippiks, many many kender weapons!
#11 darthsylver Dec 27, 2006 19:35:59	They use battaks, bolliks, chapaks, hachaks, polpaks, sashiks, sithaks, and Whippiks as well any other that is easily carried and has multiple uses. Battaks are studded clubs. Bolliks are webbed belts (kinda like batman's utility belt) it is used as a bolas and as a rope and as a flail. Chapak is a handaxe with a split back end that is used as a slingshot. Hachak is a polearm that has a battle axe head with a mace ball on one end and a warhammer like end on th eother. Polpak is a long bar with a dagger on one end attached to a fort like hilt. Sashik is a sash-like weapon with beads interwoven throughout it that is used like a flail, a rope and a net. Sithak is a bow that double as a two-bladed sword. Whippik is a thin wand-like stick with a short length of rope with a loop on that is used to fling a variety of items. The main thing to rember about kender and their weapons is that they tend to think of utility first and aggresive weapons second, they also like their weapons to be unique and interesting rather than simple useful or the tried and true dependable.
#12 zombiegleemax Dec 28, 2006 9:11:38	Cool! Thanks! But would they actually use short swords and the like? Or is that something reserved for the inflicted kender?
#13 darthsylver Dec 28, 2006 13:02:59	They might snag it if it was flashy and has some really cool looking pictures or runes on it but actually use for a weapon, I would say only if no interesting weapons or items were handy. Yes inflicted kender would use just about anything as designed. In fact they would be more likely to use weapons that had multiple ways of being used as weapons rather than as other useful items. I would equate inflicted kender to halflings rather than normal kender.
#14 zombiegleemax Dec 29, 2006 7:11:26	So the aflicted kender are basically depressed kender?
#15 zombiegleemax Dec 29, 2006 10:18:25	Are the kender weapons going to be in Races of Ansalon. It would be nice if they had pictures of them as well.
#16 shugi Dec 29, 2006 13:08:52	Kender (and minotaur, and other) weapons should be in RoA. I'm not sure about the pictures, but I'm guessing there will be a few.
#17 zombiegleemax Dec 29, 2006 16:35:21	I heard that the book is going to be out in February. I can hardly wait!
#18 seker Dec 30, 2006 14:52:36	Hehe, I have played a few kender over the years, and I actually stuck with playing them the way they were in the novels. i.e. not bloody likely to "handle" money or really valuable items and such... just interesting stuff... we even used some of the tables from the kendcyclopedia (I know I likely spelled it wrong, been forever) to figure out what I was likely to get from wandering through crowds.... and we would keep my equipment on a little table to see what I would lose too... After all a kender is likely to leave something as pick something up, it is not like we would steal. And just cause you are fearless does not make you stupid... childlike wonder at wanting to know what it is like to be eaten by a dragon is one thing... but you will miss out on so many other experiences if you do it too soon. The other players started doing what Raistlin did for Tasslehoff... keeping interesting trinkets in their pouches to keep me amused. (they did not mind as I was less likely to want the valuble stuff from the treasure. Not like I was going to trade my hoopak for the magic swords or something)
#19 zombiegleemax Dec 30, 2006 15:45:01	How did you utilize the Kender Pouches list on the Kencyclopedia?
#20 zombiegleemax Jan 01, 2007 20:40:15	I think that there is going to be a chart or something in Races of Ansalon to help in the determination of what is in the kender pouches.