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3.5 Strahd Zombie Stats?

Post/Author/DateTime Post
#1
Sysane
Jan 21, 2007 12:38:42 Other than the stat found in EtCR is there another set of Strahd Zombie stats in any of the WW RL material?

Thanks in advance.
#2
The_Jester
Jan 21, 2007 13:12:01 Denizens of Dread/Darkness, but the CR is waAAaay off. Plus, IIRC, they're also in Gaz1.
#3
iplaydnd35
Jan 21, 2007 13:27:11 what about the 2nd ed monstrous compediums based on ravenloft?
you could do a conversion on them im sure
i think there were four MCs
#4
malus_black
Jan 21, 2007 14:21:41
i think there were four MCs

Three. One of which (Volume II) was an NPC book.
#5
Sysane
Jan 21, 2007 16:16:14
Denizens of Dread/Darkness, but the CR is waAAaay off. Plus, IIRC, they're also in Gaz1.

How so? To low?
#6
The_Jester
Jan 21, 2007 22:17:10 Too low. MUCH too low. They're rated at almost equal to a regular skeleton and can walk though a party of level equal to the listed CR.
DoD is an example of how not to write a book of monsters and how not to apply game balance.

Game balance is rather new, RPGs really didn't embrace it until the later stages of 3E and most of the 3rd Party game lines and designers still have a shaky knowledge.
DoD is just what happens when you combine shaky game knowledge, half-assed updates from 3.0 to 3.5 and no concept of balance.
#7
Sysane
Jan 22, 2007 9:25:59 Anyone know of any decent fan created stats for Strahd Zombies? The ones in EtCR are alright, but I don't feel they accurately capture the flavor of the 2e ones.
#8
john_w._mangrum
Jan 22, 2007 10:51:00 Go with the Gaz I version. It's a template, for one thing, which is handy since the whole monster concept is a variant on a template.
#9
Sysane
Jan 22, 2007 10:54:55 I'll take a look at that. Thanks for everyone's input.
#10
ORC_Sinister
Feb 01, 2007 9:09:21
Too low. MUCH too low. They're rated at almost equal to a regular skeleton and can walk though a party of level equal to the listed CR.
DoD is an example of how not to write a book of monsters and how not to apply game balance.

Game balance is rather new, RPGs really didn't embrace it until the later stages of 3E and most of the 3rd Party game lines and designers still have a shaky knowledge.
DoD is just what happens when you combine shaky game knowledge, half-assed updates from 3.0 to 3.5 and no concept of balance.

I disagree, game balance is something that's been around for years in rpgs. I can name a dozen RPGs that have good game balance. L5R, 7th Sea, and Deadlands are just three. It's quite possible the S&S stuff is off mechanically but in contrast, it gets an A+ for its theme elements, particularly the the DM book, which actually teaches scare and horror elements in RPG, which could be used for a number of systems. There are many interesting creatures in that DoD book and with a bit of tweaking they work just fine.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 Sysane Jan 21, 2007 12:38:42	Other than the stat found in EtCR is there another set of Strahd Zombie stats in any of the WW RL material? Thanks in advance.
#2 The_Jester Jan 21, 2007 13:12:01	Denizens of Dread/Darkness, but the CR is waAAaay off. Plus, IIRC, they're also in Gaz1.
#3 iplaydnd35 Jan 21, 2007 13:27:11	what about the 2nd ed monstrous compediums based on ravenloft? you could do a conversion on them im sure i think there were four MCs
#4 malus_black Jan 21, 2007 14:21:41	i think there were four MCs Three. One of which (Volume II) was an NPC book.
#5 Sysane Jan 21, 2007 16:16:14	Denizens of Dread/Darkness, but the CR is waAAaay off. Plus, IIRC, they're also in Gaz1. How so? To low?
#6 The_Jester Jan 21, 2007 22:17:10	Too low. MUCH too low. They're rated at almost equal to a regular skeleton and can walk though a party of level equal to the listed CR. DoD is an example of how not to write a book of monsters and how not to apply game balance. Game balance is rather new, RPGs really didn't embrace it until the later stages of 3E and most of the 3rd Party game lines and designers still have a shaky knowledge. DoD is just what happens when you combine shaky game knowledge, half-assed updates from 3.0 to 3.5 and no concept of balance.
#7 Sysane Jan 22, 2007 9:25:59	Anyone know of any decent fan created stats for Strahd Zombies? The ones in EtCR are alright, but I don't feel they accurately capture the flavor of the 2e ones.
#8 john_w._mangrum Jan 22, 2007 10:51:00	Go with the Gaz I version. It's a template, for one thing, which is handy since the whole monster concept is a variant on a template.
#9 Sysane Jan 22, 2007 10:54:55	I'll take a look at that. Thanks for everyone's input.
#10 ORC_Sinister Feb 01, 2007 9:09:21	Too low. MUCH too low. They're rated at almost equal to a regular skeleton and can walk though a party of level equal to the listed CR. DoD is an example of how not to write a book of monsters and how not to apply game balance. Game balance is rather new, RPGs really didn't embrace it until the later stages of 3E and most of the 3rd Party game lines and designers still have a shaky knowledge. DoD is just what happens when you combine shaky game knowledge, half-assed updates from 3.0 to 3.5 and no concept of balance. I disagree, game balance is something that's been around for years in rpgs. I can name a dozen RPGs that have good game balance. L5R, 7th Sea, and Deadlands are just three. It's quite possible the S&S stuff is off mechanically but in contrast, it gets an A+ for its theme elements, particularly the the DM book, which actually teaches scare and horror elements in RPG, which could be used for a number of systems. There are many interesting creatures in that DoD book and with a bit of tweaking they work just fine.