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#1zombiegleemaxJan 30, 2007 16:17:17 | I'm still playing a campaign with 2 Skygnomes from Serraine. But I'm already planning my next campaign. One of the 2 players will be a pooka, from PC1 Tall Tales of the Wee Folk (one of my favoured accessory). He will be a cat - pooka. I was wondering if a cat pooka should be more mischievous, a dog pooka more faithful and a fox pooka more clever... Do you think the true animal form of a pooka will influence him? In my campaign, only 1 PC pooka ever existed: Everybody McAllan. He was a bipedal, uman sized rooster and he was a true singer, his favoured "weapon" was a guitar (he also striked a black dragon with the guitar using it as a blunt weapon.... the guitar breaked and the dragon suffered no HPs!). He was very attracted by females (race uninfluent), just like a real rooster is the king of all chickens of the farm! Do you use some animal flavour in your pookas? |
#2agathoklesJan 30, 2007 16:47:10 | Do you think the true animal form of a pooka will influence him? It's possible, but I would keep the animal influence from becoming more important than the main focus of the pooka (who seem to me to be somewhat surreal -- say like characters from Alice in Wonderland). |
#3havardJan 31, 2007 6:38:22 | I think having the animal traits of the Pooka influence his personality is a great idea, especially for NPCs, though I would not force this onto PCs. If you want you could make it a suggestion to the player, but if he has his mind set on something else I would let him. I agree with Agathokles that they could also be more Cheshire Cat (spl?) style. They are Fey after all. We had a Pooka housecat in one campaign. I remember long arguments about whether the cat could do 1d3 in damage. And what then if the character had a str score of 18? A house cat that could kill a man with a stroke of its paw? I think I prefer Pookas to be in the shape of the actual animal rather than a bipedal version, but I guess both could be interesting. Your Rooster character sounds like a fun NPC. Maybe i'll steal him for a light hearted game at some point. The Chronicles of Narnia also seems like a good source of inspiration for Pooka characters. Havard |
#4HuginJan 31, 2007 9:35:53 | Do you think the true animal form of a pooka will influence him? As has been said, I think it is a good idea, but keep it as an influence and not an over-riding impulse. I guess the word 'hint' would be a good way to describe the influence of the animal form; it would not dominate the pooka's behavior. I really like the idea though. I used a dog-type pooka IMC once that appeared only to one PC and only when he was drinking. It was a lot of fun. I was planning on using the pooka as part of a future storyline but the PC (along with another PC and my DMPC) died in a battle against some 50 orcs in Vestland. Sorry for diverging but that battle is still remembered and considered a bit 'legendary' among our gaming group (and other friends since they've all heard about it ;) ) |
#5havardJan 31, 2007 9:49:29 | Speaking of which, how would one do Pooka PCs in 3E? Havard |
#6HuginJan 31, 2007 10:09:25 | Speaking of which, how would one do Pooka PCs in 3E? I'm not sure how I did it IMC; I may have cheated somewhat and not done it up completely. I'll have a look when I get home. |
#7Traianus_Decius_AureusJan 31, 2007 10:38:43 | Speaking of which, how would one do Pooka PCs in 3E? Patience, young padawan :D |
#8zombiegleemaxJan 31, 2007 12:35:04 | Ok, I'm planning my next campaign starting from 2 PCs: the Puss-in-Boots and the miller's 3rd son.Once upon a time . . . a miller died leaving the mill to his eldest son, his donkey to his second son and . . . a cat to his youngest son. So I need a PC in cat form, that likes to eat mouses, able hunter and very smart. I have 3 possible PCs (I'm playing AD&D2ed, and I'm using Pooka as a PC new class for a new race, the Fey... just like we can have human clerics, human rangers and human fighters, we can have fey brownies, fey claurichans, fey sidhe and fey pookas!) PC 1: pooka, with true cat shape it is easy for him to be a granary cat. Being a woodland creature I think he could be a fine hunter. If I put an "hint" of catness in the PC, he could also eat mouses (ok, eating raw mouses is definitely out of character for a pooka, I know, the prefer roostbeef and cherry). PC 2: from dragon magazine #237 a true cat, thief. The rules for animal PC are interesting, but a true cat can't speek. And I think the player will not find it amousing after 2 or 3 games! (dragon 237 is a must know for Mystara fan: here there are Lupins and Lupins subraces!) PC 3: a rakasta (alleyrakasta? domesticrakasta?). He is a cat, but not a true cat: nobody could think he is a normal animal. But he has a lot fo the cat personality. I prefer PC 1, the pooka. He has also some power to let the "King" belive the miller's son is a marquis! Being a French fairy tale, I think I have only 2 places in Mystara I could start in: Glantri or Renardy. Being dog biased (and then anti-cat) I think Renardie is out of possibility. So Glantri is a good starting point, with Averoigne, Malinbois, Touraine... but I thin I'll start in Les Hiboux, as it is nondescript. Of course, with the miller's son it is easy: he is a human, could be a fighter - local hero, a bard - charlatan, a ranger - local hero, a mage - peasant wizard (or a specialist mage, that could be fun in Glantri). Lots of possibility for humans here! |
#9zombiegleemaxJan 31, 2007 12:51:33 | I think I prefer Pookas to be in the shape of the actual animal rather than a bipedal version, but I guess both could be interesting. Your Rooster character sounds like a fun NPC. Maybe i'll steal him for a light hearted game at some point. Everybody McAllan was indeed a fun PC. Inspired by the famous Robin Hood movie by Disney, I also found a picture of him: I think he would be a nice NPC too, if you want to use him. His name was taken from a famous Blues Brothers lyric (Everybody needs somebody). While McAllan was the name of a whisky trade mark. |
#10havardJan 31, 2007 13:28:36 | Everybody McAllan was indeed a fun PC. Inspired by the famous Robin Hood movie by Disney, I also found a picture of him: The pic doesnt work right now, but I know what you are talking about Puss in Boots also makes for a nice Pooka as does say Donkey. How about Aslan though? or Mr Beaver (also from Narnia)? Traianus: can't wait to see what you come up with Master ;) Havard |
#11agathoklesJan 31, 2007 13:51:57 | I prefer PC 1, the pooka. He has also some power to let the "King" belive the miller's son is a marquis! I agree, the other two options aren't nearly as fun or well fitting as this one -- the Rakasta could be played with a catlike character, but it doesn't fit as an "heirloom". The true cat, as you said, would not be so easy to play for a long time. The pooka is perfect -- he wouldn't eat raw mice normally, but could do so in a pinch. Being a French fairy tale, I think I have only 2 places in Mystara I could start in: Glantri or Renardy. Being dog biased (and then anti-cat) I think Renardie is out of possibility. So Glantri is a good starting point, with Averoigne, Malinbois, Touraine... but I thin I'll start in Les Hiboux, as it is nondescript. Though a cat might be even more likely to be overlooked as a heirloom in Renardie. There are few nobles in Renardie, though, so the other character could not be a Marquis. Glantri fits better. Of course, with the miller's son it is easy: he is a human, could be a fighter - local hero, a bard - charlatan, a ranger - local hero, a mage - peasant wizard (or a specialist mage, that could be fun in Glantri). Lots of possibility for humans here! Eh, I'd link another Marquis de Carabas here -- the one from Neil Gaiman's Neverwhere, so I'd make him a bard (charlatan would be ok). A peasant wizard in Glantri doesn't strike me as very likely, though. |
#12Traianus_Decius_AureusJan 31, 2007 14:18:33 | Puss in Boots also makes for a nice Pooka as does say Donkey. How about Aslan though? or Mr Beaver (also from Narnia)? That is sooooo going to appear in my campaign:D |
#13zombiegleemaxJan 31, 2007 17:36:12 | Eh, I'd link another Marquis de Carabas here -- the one from Neil Gaiman's Neverwhere, so I'd make him a bard (charlatan would be ok). Who is him? I don't know about Neil Gaiman, I don't know about Neverwhere and I don't know about the "other" Marquis de Carabas A peasant wizard in Glantri doesn't strike me as very likely, though. You are right... it is extremely unlikely for a Glnatrian to be a peasant wizard... wizardry is nobility! ;) |
#14gawain_viiiJan 31, 2007 17:51:33 | You are right... it is extremely unlikely for a Glnatrian to be a peasant wizard... wizardry is nobility! ;) Not exactly. Glantrian nobles are all wizards, but unlike Alphatia, the reverse isn't necessarily true. Roger |
#15agathoklesFeb 01, 2007 2:57:00 | Not exactly. Glantrian nobles are all wizards, but unlike Alphatia, the reverse isn't necessarily true. Not necessarily nobles, true, but most likely middle class. In Glantri, magic comes through study, and studying magic in Glantri is costly -- you might have a "poor student" type (which would be a form of urban wizard, though), but hardly a peasant wizard, since even apprenticeship with a wizard living outside town would be quite costly, and keep the student from being truly a peasant. |
#16havardFeb 01, 2007 3:52:25 | Not necessarily nobles, true, but most likely middle class. But I guess no PC classes really are peasants are they? Even the Fighter would be in need of some soldier or mercenary training. The Cleric would definately require schooling. Thieves are a bit more dubious though. I could see the magic user coming from a peasant background, if he has say a sponsor or even a wizard willing to take him on as an apprentice for free because of the student's brilliant intellect or of other more selfish reasons. Still, I'd say as you do, that from the moment he is taken on as an apprentice, he will be considered somewhat above the peasant and servant classes. Havard |
#17agathoklesFeb 01, 2007 11:06:35 | But I guess no PC classes really are peasants are they? Even the Fighter would be in need of some soldier or mercenary training. The Cleric would definately require schooling. Thieves are a bit more dubious though. Not necessarily: in a prevalently rural setting such as Karameikos, peasant (or local hero) wizards could be common -- people trained by local hedge wizards, just like fighters/rangers could just be local woodsmen. Clerics are perhaps less likely -- but they could belong to charitable orders that are devoted to helping the common man. Still, I'd say as you do, that from the moment he is taken on as an apprentice, he will be considered somewhat above the peasant and servant classes. That's the point: while the Glantrian wizard could come from a peasant family, he himself would likely develop a different attitude, or simply be considered differently by the other peasants, so that justifying the Peasant or Local Hero character kits would be difficult. |