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Kobolds in Krynn?

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#1
thog
Feb 14, 2007 13:45:12 Hi. I'm considering a character build for a DL campaign. My question is, does the setting have kobolds?

If not in Ansalon, perhaps in one of the other continent/regions?
#2
cam_banks
Feb 14, 2007 15:48:01 Ansalon absolutely has kobolds. They are considered to belong to the bakali race, as well as having some relationship to goblins. They are not dragon-blooded creatures as represented in some WotC products, so I would hesitate going that route.

Two kobolds of note in the setting are Fetch, who was a sorcerer and rogue and followed the rogue knight Dhamon Grimwulf around for a while, and Master Yap, who is the first and only kobold in the Orders of High Sorcery (he's a black robed necromancer). Most are not spellcasters. A community of Reorx-faithful kobolds, neutral in alignment, lives in the town of Rockhorde near the Ogrelands north of Khur, but most kobolds are sadistic little bastards who enjoy trapping larger creatures and acting as bandits and thieves.

Cheers,
Cam
#3
thog
Feb 14, 2007 16:12:38 Thank you.
Is the version of kobold in the core rules monster manual totally replaced by the bakali, or just modified so they are no longer humanoid(reptilian) but humanoid(goblinoid), and I suppose they'd also speak goblin instead of draconic?
#4
draco_paladine
Feb 14, 2007 18:58:00 Flint Fireforge was captured by the kobolds at one point. He never wants to admit this but tis true. Tas claims that he rescued him.
#5
cam_banks
Feb 15, 2007 8:23:13
Thank you.
Is the version of kobold in the core rules monster manual totally replaced by the bakali, or just modified so they are no longer humanoid(reptilian) but humanoid(goblinoid), and I suppose they'd also speak goblin instead of draconic?

They are exactly the same race. Bakali = MM lizardfolk, although the name is used to describe a larger group of reptilian humanoids such as troglodytes. Bakali speak Draconic because it was taught to them by the dragons, who they used to serve in the distant past. There is a larger, Medium variety of kobold called a slig, which appears in the Bestiary of Krynn.

Cheers,
Cam
#6
rath_the_ranger
Feb 15, 2007 13:15:04
Flint Fireforge was captured by the kobolds at one point. He never wants to admit this but tis true. Tas claims that he rescued him.

No, he was captured by Gully Dwarves and doesn't ever want to talk about it. See "Flint the King", plus it is mentioned in passing in Tanis' thoughts in "Dragons of the Dwarven Depths" in the forest outside Thorbardin.
#7
thog
Feb 15, 2007 14:46:51 Thanks all, for the lore.

I found the slig and see that they and kobolds are both rumored to be bakali(lizardfolk)/goblinkind hybreds. I wanted to make sure my kobold had the right Dragonlance flavor to her.

Her race is kobold straight out of the MM, though I'll have to give her a slightly different flavored background than I first had in mind.
#8
zombiegleemax
Feb 15, 2007 16:05:44 So going through the Races of the Dragon and the kobolds in there would not be a way to go for Dragonlance kobolds?
#9
draco_paladine
Feb 15, 2007 19:27:13 Actually, if u look at the maps in tasslehoffs map pouch: war of the lance, on the Ansalon in the War of the Lance map, it says, "Flint was captured by kobolds here once. But he'll never tell. (I saved him)." This is above Palanthas that Tas says this happened.
According to Tas, FLint was captured by Kobolds and let's face it, Tas is smarter than me and you put together.
#10
cam_banks
Feb 15, 2007 21:08:42
So going through the Races of the Dragon and the kobolds in there would not be a way to go for Dragonlance kobolds?

While you could use some of the ideas in there, no, in most cases that's not how Krynnish kobolds work. We'll talk about them and the other bakali in Dragons of Krynn, due out later this year.

Cheers,
Cam
#11
zombiegleemax
Feb 16, 2007 8:58:40 Thanks very much Mr. Banks.
#12
rath_the_ranger
Feb 16, 2007 9:07:16
Actually, if u look at the maps in tasslehoffs map pouch: war of the lance, on the Ansalon in the War of the Lance map, it says, "Flint was captured by kobolds here once. But he'll never tell. (I saved him)." This is above Palanthas that Tas says this happened.
According to Tas, FLint was captured by Kobolds and let's face it, Tas is smarter than me and you put together.

Ahh, I missed that, I thought maybe you had just been slightly confused. Sorry for the correction that shouldn't have been.

And, yes, you are correct, Tas is much smarter and wiser LOLOL :D
#13
draco_paladine
Feb 17, 2007 12:54:14 Yeah, I had just bought Tas' map pouch and had been looking over that or i wouldnt have seen that. I didnt recall reading it, but figured tas couldnt be wrong! haha:D
#14
darthsylver
Feb 17, 2007 23:13:33 Well a possible explaination for that is that Tas might have figured it was more fun to be captured by kobolds (which are apparently more rare than gully dwarves) and therefore might have told the story the way it should have been rather than the way it actually happened, because the gods know there is no way Flint could have been "captured" by gully dwarves. :D :D :D

It is also possible that Flint told everybody that it was really kobolds rather than gully dwarves as this might have been more acceptable to his dwarven pride.
#15
wolf72
Feb 23, 2007 14:11:53
While you could use some of the ideas in there, no, in most cases that's not how Krynnish kobolds work. We'll talk about them and the other bakali in Dragons of Krynn, due out later this year.

Cheers,
Cam

Krynn, not Ansalon? ... so it might discuss dragons in ... in ... (cr*p um ... got it! ) TALADAS!!!
#16
zombiegleemax
Feb 26, 2007 22:22:57 Or Adlatium?

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 thog Feb 14, 2007 13:45:12	Hi. I'm considering a character build for a DL campaign. My question is, does the setting have kobolds? If not in Ansalon, perhaps in one of the other continent/regions?
#2 cam_banks Feb 14, 2007 15:48:01	Ansalon absolutely has kobolds. They are considered to belong to the bakali race, as well as having some relationship to goblins. They are not dragon-blooded creatures as represented in some WotC products, so I would hesitate going that route. Two kobolds of note in the setting are Fetch, who was a sorcerer and rogue and followed the rogue knight Dhamon Grimwulf around for a while, and Master Yap, who is the first and only kobold in the Orders of High Sorcery (he's a black robed necromancer). Most are not spellcasters. A community of Reorx-faithful kobolds, neutral in alignment, lives in the town of Rockhorde near the Ogrelands north of Khur, but most kobolds are sadistic little bastards who enjoy trapping larger creatures and acting as bandits and thieves. Cheers, Cam
#3 thog Feb 14, 2007 16:12:38	Thank you. Is the version of kobold in the core rules monster manual totally replaced by the bakali, or just modified so they are no longer humanoid(reptilian) but humanoid(goblinoid), and I suppose they'd also speak goblin instead of draconic?
#4 draco_paladine Feb 14, 2007 18:58:00	Flint Fireforge was captured by the kobolds at one point. He never wants to admit this but tis true. Tas claims that he rescued him.
#5 cam_banks Feb 15, 2007 8:23:13	Thank you. Is the version of kobold in the core rules monster manual totally replaced by the bakali, or just modified so they are no longer humanoid(reptilian) but humanoid(goblinoid), and I suppose they'd also speak goblin instead of draconic? They are exactly the same race. Bakali = MM lizardfolk, although the name is used to describe a larger group of reptilian humanoids such as troglodytes. Bakali speak Draconic because it was taught to them by the dragons, who they used to serve in the distant past. There is a larger, Medium variety of kobold called a slig, which appears in the Bestiary of Krynn. Cheers, Cam
#6 rath_the_ranger Feb 15, 2007 13:15:04	Flint Fireforge was captured by the kobolds at one point. He never wants to admit this but tis true. Tas claims that he rescued him. No, he was captured by Gully Dwarves and doesn't ever want to talk about it. See "Flint the King", plus it is mentioned in passing in Tanis' thoughts in "Dragons of the Dwarven Depths" in the forest outside Thorbardin.
#7 thog Feb 15, 2007 14:46:51	Thanks all, for the lore. I found the slig and see that they and kobolds are both rumored to be bakali(lizardfolk)/goblinkind hybreds. I wanted to make sure my kobold had the right Dragonlance flavor to her. Her race is kobold straight out of the MM, though I'll have to give her a slightly different flavored background than I first had in mind.
#8 zombiegleemax Feb 15, 2007 16:05:44	So going through the Races of the Dragon and the kobolds in there would not be a way to go for Dragonlance kobolds?
#9 draco_paladine Feb 15, 2007 19:27:13	Actually, if u look at the maps in tasslehoffs map pouch: war of the lance, on the Ansalon in the War of the Lance map, it says, "Flint was captured by kobolds here once. But he'll never tell. (I saved him)." This is above Palanthas that Tas says this happened. According to Tas, FLint was captured by Kobolds and let's face it, Tas is smarter than me and you put together.
#10 cam_banks Feb 15, 2007 21:08:42	So going through the Races of the Dragon and the kobolds in there would not be a way to go for Dragonlance kobolds? While you could use some of the ideas in there, no, in most cases that's not how Krynnish kobolds work. We'll talk about them and the other bakali in Dragons of Krynn, due out later this year. Cheers, Cam
#11 zombiegleemax Feb 16, 2007 8:58:40	Thanks very much Mr. Banks.
#12 rath_the_ranger Feb 16, 2007 9:07:16	Actually, if u look at the maps in tasslehoffs map pouch: war of the lance, on the Ansalon in the War of the Lance map, it says, "Flint was captured by kobolds here once. But he'll never tell. (I saved him)." This is above Palanthas that Tas says this happened. According to Tas, FLint was captured by Kobolds and let's face it, Tas is smarter than me and you put together. Ahh, I missed that, I thought maybe you had just been slightly confused. Sorry for the correction that shouldn't have been. And, yes, you are correct, Tas is much smarter and wiser LOLOL :D
#13 draco_paladine Feb 17, 2007 12:54:14	Yeah, I had just bought Tas' map pouch and had been looking over that or i wouldnt have seen that. I didnt recall reading it, but figured tas couldnt be wrong! haha:D
#14 darthsylver Feb 17, 2007 23:13:33	Well a possible explaination for that is that Tas might have figured it was more fun to be captured by kobolds (which are apparently more rare than gully dwarves) and therefore might have told the story the way it should have been rather than the way it actually happened, because the gods know there is no way Flint could have been "captured" by gully dwarves. :D :D :D It is also possible that Flint told everybody that it was really kobolds rather than gully dwarves as this might have been more acceptable to his dwarven pride.
#15 wolf72 Feb 23, 2007 14:11:53	While you could use some of the ideas in there, no, in most cases that's not how Krynnish kobolds work. We'll talk about them and the other bakali in Dragons of Krynn, due out later this year. Cheers, Cam Krynn, not Ansalon? ... so it might discuss dragons in ... in ... (cr*p um ... got it! ) TALADAS!!!
#16 zombiegleemax Feb 26, 2007 22:22:57	Or Adlatium?