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#1romanMar 08, 2007 9:22:46 | I have several questions about the Dark Lens and since my knowledge of the Dark Sun is not very extensive, I thought some of the Dark Sun gurus on this board might know more: (these questions are similar to questions I have asked about the Pristine Tower before) 1) When and how was the Dark Lens created and for what purpose? 2) Is the Dark Lens destructible and if so how? 3) Has the Dark Lens been involved in any major events in Athas (apart from the creation of champions of Rajaat and the sorceror kings [but even about that I know little])? 4) Is the Dark Lens in any way related to lifeshaping? Due to its ability to transform, which I surmise from the creation of the champions of Rajaat and the sorceror kings, I would even postulate that it is a lifeshaping artifact. 5) Where is the Dark Sun currently located? 6) What is the connection (if any - but there appears to be one) between the Dark Lens and the Sun)? 7) Are there any mechanical rules (crunch rather than fluff) regarding the Dark Lens, its transformative effects and its other powers (if any) and if so what are these rules? Thanks a lot! |
#2dirk00001Mar 08, 2007 10:09:12 | I have several questions about the Dark Lens and since my knowledge of the Dark Sun is not very extensive, I thought some of the Dark Sun gurus on this board might know more: (these questions are similar to questions I have asked about the Pristine Tower before) The best source the Prism Pentad series, really, but to be more specific: 1) When and how was the Dark Lens created and for what purpose? AFAIK there isn't a definitive answer to this, although I'm pretty sure it's assumed that it was created by the Life Shapers: Since it is a component of the Pristine Tower that allows for full physical transformations such as those that occurred during the Rebirth, I don't see why it'd be an "after thought" thing. On the other hand I've also heard opinions that Rajaat may have created it, or found it after-the-fact. 2) Is the Dark Lens destructible and if so how? Possibly, depending on the source and your opinion. There's a debate as to whether or not it was destroyed at the end of the Prism Pentad series by being tossed into a lake of magma. For whatever reason I can't remember at the moment what my opinion on this is. :P 3) Has the Dark Lens been involved in any major events in Athas (apart from the creation of champions of Rajaat and the sorceror kings [but even about that I know little])? A lot - read the Prism Pentad series of books by Troy Denning. The Wanderer's Chronicle history section gives a brief overview of some of the things it was used for, both "prior" to that series as well as during the course of it. 4) Is the Dark Lens in any way related to lifeshaping? Due to its ability to transform, which I surmise from the creation of the champions of Rajaat and the sorceror kings, I would even postulate that it is a lifeshaping artifact. Possibly. See question #1. 5) Where is the Dark Sun currently located? As of FY 13(?) it's sitting at the bottom of a lake of magma in the valley of Dust and Fire. 6) What is the connection (if any - but there appears to be one) between the Dark Lens and the Sun? It harnesses the sun's power - it's sort of an "energy gateway" between the life-changing powers of the sun and whoever is currently using the artifact. 7) Are there any mechanical rules (crunch rather than fluff) regarding the Dark Lens, its transformative effects and its other powers (if any) and if so what are these rules? I think someone on the boards have re-written the 2e version of the artifact, so there's a couple rules for it out there. (I wouldn't be surprised if I'm off on some of these answers...but that's what the forums are for, eh?) |
#3brun01Mar 08, 2007 11:11:05 | See my conversion at http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=637968 for answers. Dirk is right most of the time :D |
#4monastyrskiMar 08, 2007 13:11:32 |
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#5PennarinMar 08, 2007 22:24:14 | There's a debate as to whether or not it was destroyed at the end of the Prism Pentad series by being tossed into a lake of magma. For whatever reason I can't remember at the moment what my opinion on this is. :P You sly dog! That is some pretty good backing there, nice job ;) |
#6brun01Mar 09, 2007 6:06:09 | So, the dead have started to march out of the Deadlands already, heh? Good to have you back, Alex and Nathan. |
#7terminus_vortexaMar 09, 2007 6:37:06 | Also, finding the Dark Lens will cause you to glare smugly while your eyes radiate an unearthly glow. At least, that's what happened to me...... |
#8kalthandrixMar 09, 2007 8:54:14 | So, the dead have started to march out of the Deadlands already, heh? That is right! It was foretold that the Flayers return to the Tablelands would be heralded in by the dead! Beware fools… your doom is upon you! |
#9romanMar 09, 2007 9:25:11 | Also, finding the Dark Lens will cause you to glare smugly while your eyes radiate an unearthly glow. At least, that's what happened to me...... I have no Dark Sun, or even D&D, group for me at the moment, so I am safe from that... though I much rather wouldn't be. |
#10romanMar 09, 2007 9:25:58 | I want to thank you all for providing excellent info. Once again thanks! |
#11dirk00001Mar 09, 2007 9:28:06 | You sly dog! That is some pretty good backing there, nice job ;) ...the really sad thing is that I actually can't remember my opinion on that subject: I'm pretty sure I think that it *wasn't* destroyed, but it's been so long since the thread where we were picking apart quotes from the Cerlulean Storm that I'm starting to wonder if maybe I changed my mind by the end of that debate. :D |
#12dirk00001Mar 09, 2007 9:28:39 | ...oh, yeah; Good to see you back as well, Penn. :P |
#13brun01Mar 09, 2007 10:36:01 | That is right! It was foretold that the Flayers return to the Tablelands would be heralded in by the dead! Beware fools… your doom is upon you! |