Here is a quick map I came up with:
NOTE: City locations, rivers, forests, jungles etc are not 100% accurate. The coastline should be pretty close though. I was a bit rushed with the details.
Havard
Havard
Here is a quick map I came up with:
NOTE: City locations, rivers, forests, jungles etc are not 100% accurate. The coastline should be pretty close though. I was a bit rushed with the details.
I'd add that the Simbasta probably live mostly in the Aryptian Savannah -- I'm not certain that there should be Tangor humans there, BTW.
There are also several other types of Rakasta (especially Fast Runners and Servasta) who live in the fringes of the Simbasta territory.
The Sis'tik (spelling?) also live in the Aryptian desert. They are desert Lizardmen.
I have some doubts about the presence of goblinoids in Addakia. I'd recommend Troglodytes and the like as possible replacements.
Sasserine and Cauldron are from the Savage Tide Adventure Path and thus utterly non-canon.
Not much of a problem -- they can easily fit as Milenian (or Hulean/Milenian in Sasserine's case) city-states.
I'd add that the Simbasta probably live mostly in the Aryptian Savannah -- I'm not certain that there should be Tangor humans there, BTW.
There are also several other types of Rakasta (especially Fast Runners and Servasta) who live in the fringes of the Simbasta territory.
I have some doubts about the presence of goblinoids in Addakia. I'd recommend Troglodytes and the like as possible replacements.
Well spotted! I didnt get around to check the location of the Simbasta, but wanted to put them on the map. When you say Aryptian Savannah, what do you mean exactly?
As for the Tangor, that is one where I have no canon evidence. My only reasoning is that I would like to see some region of Davania actually resemble Sub-Saharan Africa. Arypt seems like the best choice.
Adakkian Mountains: PWAIII says humanoids (Dangerous humanoids even) so I assumed they were gobliniods. But you are right, there is no reason why they shouldnt be replaced by Trogolodytes and other lizard-kin. IIRC there are quite a few lizard races in the Creature Catalogues which may also likely have a home in Davania, possibly also in the Adakkian Mountains...
Havard
Not much of a problem -- they can easily fit as Milenian (or Hulean/Milenian in Sasserine's case) city-states.
I agree. I think it is the best fit for them. I have to read up on Sasserine's backstory to find out which origins the city might have, but there are several possible explainations that would work. The region is otherwise undetailed by canon and maps provided of Sasserine's surroundings by Paizo even fit with the environment,
BTW: I missed your comment about Sis'tiks in Adakkia. They were the ones I was thinking about as well.
Havard
Well spotted! I didnt get around to check the location of the Simbasta, but wanted to put them on the map. When you say Aryptian Savannah, what do you mean exactly?
Around Vanya's Rest, more or less where you wrote "Tangor Humans".
See Geoff's map, e.g..
As for the Tangor, that is one where I have no canon evidence. My only reasoning is that I would like to see some region of Davania actually resemble Sub-Saharan Africa. Arypt seems like the best choice.
Well, it is Arypt, but the M-Masai are the Simbasta
Adakkian Mountains: PWAIII says humanoids (Dangerous humanoids even) so I assumed they were gobliniods. But you are right, there is no reason why they shouldnt be replaced by Trogolodytes and other lizard-kin. IIRC there are quite a few lizard races in the Creature Catalogues which may also likely have a home in Davania, possibly also in the Adakkian Mountains...
As mentioned, there are the Sis'tik, though they are more in the desert area.
However, there's no reason why we can't have other humanoid (non-goblinoid) races. We could pick from some source, or devise new ones (theriomorphs are always good for Mystara).
I agree. I think it is the best fit for them. I have to read up on Sasserine's backstory to find out which origins the city might have, but there are several possible explainations that would work. The region is otherwise undetailed by canon and maps provided of Sasserine's surroundings by Paizo even fit with the environment,
Good. Sasserine could have additional contributions from other nations, such as early Thyatians (or Kerendans) as well as Kron and Thanegia.
Around Vanya's Rest, more or less where you wrote "Tangor Humans".
See Geoff's map, e.g..
Unless I am mistaken, Vanya's Rest is located just below the "Simbasta" entry. Just where the mas cut, the coastline would curve in to the west.
Around the "3." on Geoff's map:
http://www.pandius.com/arypt.jpg
Well, it is Arypt, but the M-Masai are the Simbasta
I'd say the Simbasta are probably THE dominant culture of Arypt. Still, it is a big region. Would be nice to have some other races there too, including some dark skinned humans. And maybe some Big-Eared Parchydermions? ;)
As mentioned, there are the Sis'tik, though they are more in the desert area.
However, there's no reason why we can't have other humanoid (non-goblinoid) races. We could pick from some source, or devise new ones (theriomorphs are always good for Mystara).
All good! I don't know how you (or others) feel about Mystaro's Blackmoor Epic, but this all fits very well with his storyline about this part of Davania being originally dominated by the Carnifex, then later their servants the Serpent Men, and after them (Post GRoF) the lesser lizardman races.
We might also want to link in some of SB Wilson's Arican material. Make the Centaurs of Meghala Kimata Zebrataurs for instance...
Havard
I have some doubts about the presence of goblinoids in Addakia. I'd recommend Troglodytes and the like as possible replacements.
There are ogres known to be in the central portions of Davania (at least in the past- the ancestors of the N'djatwa half ogre/half elves), so there is at least some other canon precedent for humanoids there.
That said, I tend to agree with the sentiment that there shouldn't be widespread goblin-humanoid presence in Davania, except perhaps on the fringes (such as the Bogdashkan orcs, who may be connected with the Kara-kara somehow). I'm frankly a bit surprised that they made it as far out to the Isle of Dawn, though that's not nearly as far as Davania. Some goblinoid alternatives would be a good idea.
There are ogres known to be in the central portions of Davania (at least in the past- the ancestors of the N'djatwa half ogre/half elves), so there is at least some other canon precedent for humanoids there.
True. SB Wilson's Arica also has half-Ogres north of the Izondan desert.
That said, I tend to agree with the sentiment that there shouldn't be widespread goblin-humanoid presence in Davania, except perhaps on the fringes (such as the Bogdashkan orcs, who may be connected with the Kara-kara somehow). I'm frankly a bit surprised that they made it as far out to the Isle of Dawn, though that's not nearly as far as Davania. Some goblinoid alternatives would be a good idea.
Fair enough. Lets keep goblin-kind to a minimum. They are widespread on Brun and probably have a presence on Skothar.
The Bogdashkans may not be exactly Kara-Kara, but we might find the secret of their presence on Davania by examining Kara-Kara history.
Lizard-kin should be numerous in Davania. Looking at the "Needle/Phase Spider" thread, Frogmen might also have made their way there.
Arica uses Zebtrataurs and Minotaurs. I feel Minotaurs are under-exposed on Mystara, so we might find some room for them here.
Havard
Arica uses Zebtrataurs and Minotaurs. I feel Minotaurs are under-exposed on Mystara, so we might find some room for them here.
Minotaurs for sure. I've been toying with the notion of a pre-Enduk Minotaur race (essentially, the ancestors of the Enduks and "modern" Minotaurs), and I'm tying their origins to Davania- notably the western half, but with some spread to the easterly regions as well.
Unless I am mistaken, Vanya's Rest is located just below the "Simbasta" entry. Just where the mas cut, the coastline would curve in to the west.
Around the "3." on Geoff's map:
Yes, that's Vanya's Rest. The Aryptian Savannah is, well, where the "Aryptian Savannah" label is found on the map, and the Simbasta would live in the grasslands and plains around Vanya's Rest, IMO.
I'd say the Simbasta are probably THE dominant culture of Arypt. Still, it is a big region. Would be nice to have some other races there too, including some dark skinned humans. And maybe some Big-Eared Parchydermions? ;)
Sure. I even wrote an article on Pachydermion breeds
http://pandius.com/pacyderm.html
OTOH, humans of the area are more likely to be Neathar (the Milenian, Varellyan, and Thratian cultures surround this area) and/or Oltec (Manacapuru, Katapec) than Tangor (the nearest Tangor/Oltec humans are the Cestians).
All good! I don't know how you (or others) feel about Mystaro's Blackmoor Epic, but this all fits very well with his storyline about this part of Davania being originally dominated by the Carnifex, then later their servants the Serpent Men, and after them (Post GRoF) the lesser lizardman races.
It fits well with the Manacapuru description. It seems to me that Mystaros' ideas could be easily preserved.
We might also want to link in some of SB Wilson's Arican material. Make the Centaurs of Meghala Kimata Zebrataurs for instance...
Sure, that would be nice.
GP
There are ogres known to be in the central portions of Davania (at least in the past- the ancestors of the N'djatwa half ogre/half elves), so there is at least some other canon precedent for humanoids there.
Yes, but they were there before and/or immediately after the GRoF, when they shouldn't have existed ;)
That said, I tend to agree with the sentiment that there shouldn't be widespread goblin-humanoid presence in Davania, except perhaps on the fringes (such as the Bogdashkan orcs, who may be connected with the Kara-kara somehow). I'm frankly a bit surprised that they made it as far out to the Isle of Dawn, though that's not nearly as far as Davania. Some goblinoid alternatives would be a good idea.
Indeed, the N'djatwa and the Bogdashkan orcs are more than enough for Davanian goblinoids. Sure, Davania is an entire continent and there's plenty of space for a lot of races and cultures, but there's also plenty of races that could be set there.
The Bogdashkans may not be exactly Kara-Kara, but we might find the secret of their presence on Davania by examining Kara-Kara history.
Or, they might be a more recent addition -- perhaps coming from Hule through Garganin?
As to Ogre-kin, those are certainly acceptable, since they would be recent additions -- traders and colonists from Tangor, just like those in Sumag and Gombar in the Arm of the Immortal.
Lizard-kin should be numerous in Davania. Looking at the "Needle/Phase Spider" thread, Frogmen might also have made their way there.
Sure. There are already at least five or six different Lizardkin breeds in Mystara, some more could well be found in Davania.
Arica uses Zebtrataurs and Minotaurs. I feel Minotaurs are under-exposed on Mystara, so we might find some room for them here.
There have been several ideas on this topic. Francesco Defferrari wrote this gaz entry for a Minotaur nation in northern Davania:
http://pandius.com/mishav.html
A list of intelligent creatures that could be found in Davania would then include:
Or, they might be a more recent addition -- perhaps coming from Hule through Garganin?
Also possible, though their lands are quite far from Garganin.
As to Ogre-kin, those are certainly acceptable, since they would be recent additions -- traders and colonists from Tangor, just like those in Sumag and Gombar in the Arm of the Immortal.
Okay, Ogre-kin checked
Sure. There are already at least five or six different Lizardkin breeds in Mystara, some more could well be found in Davania.
I like the idea of having Lizardkin be one of the main "enemy" races of Davania.
There have been several ideas on this topic. Francesco Defferrari wrote this gaz entry for a Minotaur nation in northern Davania:
http://pandius.com/mishav.html
Wow!
Looks like everything has been done already
Well, that fits well with my ideas then!A list of intelligent creatures that could be found in Davania would then include:
Another sentient race that could be added is the, Wemic, though it is not a Mystaran monster per se.
Very useful list!
It looks good to me. I also have to say that I like the Wemic. Mystara already has a long range of "Tauric" cat creatures so adding the Wemic shouldnt be problematic. Though as a non-Mystaran monster I think they shouldnt get too prominent a position. The Rakasta should remain the major cat race of Mystara
SOME FURTHER THOUGHTS:
Lets have a look at this map:
http://pandius.com/master-outer-world.png
and the one from the RC/Hollow World:
http://digilander.libero.it/Halag/images/outermap.jpg
My idea is that the central parts of Davania should be based on cultures from RW Africa and South America.
We already have some african based cultures in Arypt and Arica (located near the Izondan Wall IIRC).
My own idea for Izonda is that it is a North African/Arab inspired region with an ancient history of colonization from Nithia and the Maur-inspired realm on the Savage Coast (Saragon?).
Pelatan is ofcourse much smaller than on the Mentzer map, a Matriarchial state founded by Milennian Woman Warriors located near the Pelatan Shield.
Brasol has been coined M-Brasil. I'd say the greater Brasol-region could be made into a M-South America. Amazonian rain forests and various cultures based on RW Native South Americans, probably related to Oltecs.
At the edge of the Adakkian strait is the realm of Kenaron (name from Mystaros, but derived by the Kenaron River) the original Halfling Realm. Here I imagine a Peruvian-style Halfling realm with Lamas and the lot.
Further inspiration could be drawn from my own Pre-Cataclysmic world map:
http://www.geocities.com/havardfaa/precataclysmic04.jpg
The Golden Empire and the Enduk Kingdoms created by James Mishler could have some descendants in the Brasol Mountains (Gold Dragons) and Izonda (Perhaps the Enduk Kingdom could be linked to the Minotaur realm detailed by Francisco?).
Havard
It looks good to me. I also have to say that I like the Wemic. Mystara already has a long range of "Tauric" cat creatures so adding the Wemic shouldnt be problematic. Though as a non-Mystaran monster I think they shouldnt get too prominent a position. The Rakasta should remain the major cat race of Mystara
Sure, they might be rivals of both the Zebrataurs and the Simbasta, and be nomadic hunters -- they would be seen as barbaric marauders by the Simbasta.
My idea is that the central parts of Davania should be based on cultures from RW Africa and South America.
That is per se ok.
We already have some african based cultures in Arypt and Arica (located near the Izondan Wall IIRC).
Indeed. We have the Rakasta cultures, based on Kenya and Tanzania.
My own idea for Izonda is that it is a North African/Arab inspired region with an ancient history of colonization from Nithia and the Maur-inspired realm on the Savage Coast (Saragon?).
Uhm, the colonization from Saragon can't be that ancient, though. A Nithian colonization would be possible, though we already have a lot of Nithian colonies.
Pelatan is ofcourse much smaller than on the Mentzer map, a Matriarchial state founded by Milennian Woman Warriors located near the Pelatan Shield.
Yes, an Amazon nation would fit. Geoff's ideas of a Gombarian trade post and a small nation of Varellyan exiles could be used.
Brasol has been coined M-Brasil. I'd say the greater Brasol-region could be made into a M-South America. Amazonian rain forests and various cultures based on RW Native South Americans, probably related to Oltecs.
Or they could be non-humans: sloth-men could be set in the area (there's also the giant arctic sloth living in the polar area). Going on with the south american theme, armadillos and anteaters could also be used for new theriomorphs, with Jakar Rakasta as the main threat to these tribes.
At the edge of the Adakkian strait is the realm of Kenaron (name from Mystaros, but derived by the Kenaron River) the original Halfling Realm. Here I imagine a Peruvian-style Halfling realm with Lamas and the lot.
That could be, except that these Hin would still speak some variant of Lalor, most likely.
The Golden Empire and the Enduk Kingdoms created by James Mishler could have some descendants in the Brasol Mountains (Gold Dragons) and Izonda (Perhaps the Enduk Kingdom could be linked to the Minotaur realm detailed by Francisco?).
Dragon kingdoms could certainly exist in Davania, while I'd keep the Enduk in the Arm of the Immortal, giving more space to Minotaurs in Davania.
Indeed. We have the Rakasta cultures, based on Kenya and Tanzania.
Exactly. As pointed out elsewhere, Arypt is a pretty big place, but I assume other races in the region will have a similar culture.
Uhm, the colonization from Saragon can't be that ancient, though. A Nithian colonization would be possible, though we already have a lot of Nithian colonies.
The Nithian part is mainly to create some sense of an older culture, though the land will be more North African/Arabic. The original Nithian heritage will be mostly forgotten with the exception of a the occational Petra-like archtectural wonders.
Make the Saragon entry Saragon/Ylari. IIRC Saragon was settled by Ylari. The assumption is that the same colonial wave also sent some people to Izonda. IMO M-Arabia deserves a bit more than tiny Ylaruam for their representation. And, yet another reason to get copies of the old Al-Quadim books.
Yes, an Amazon nation would fit. Geoff's ideas of a Gombarian trade post and a small nation of Varellyan exiles could be used.
Bruce even mentioned this in Dragon. That would make it more or less canon. I like the connections with Geoff's work.
Or they could be non-humans: sloth-men could be set in the area (there's also the giant arctic sloth living in the polar area). Going on with the south american theme, armadillos and anteaters could also be used for new theriomorphs, with Jakar Rakasta as the main threat to these tribes.
The region is pretty big. I'd allow for all of these! I have another idea for Armadillo-men, but that's for later
Halfling realm of Kenaron:
That could be, except that these Hin would still speak some variant of Lalor, most likely.
Makes sense. I wasn't thinking so much linguistically as Lama using, pan pipe playing halflings.
We probably also need a Lost City of Gold/El Dorado area somewhere in this M-South America region...
Dragon kingdoms could certainly exist in Davania, while I'd keep the Enduk in the Arm of the Immortal, giving more space to Minotaurs in Davania.
Hmmm.... City of Gold becomes City of Gold Dragons? :D
Enduks may have moved to the Arm of the Immortals, even if they are as old as indicated by Mishler. I agree about giving the Minotaurs some space. I really feel those guys deserve some attention.
Havard
Make the Saragon entry Saragon/Ylari. IIRC Saragon was settled by Ylari. The assumption is that the same colonial wave also sent some people to Izonda. IMO M-Arabia deserves a bit more than tiny Ylaruam for their representation. And, yet another reason to get copies of the old Al-Quadim books.
One could go for a more Sindbad-style setting than a classical arabian setting (which is already covered by Ylaruam), maybe using Golden Voyages and Cities of Bones.
We probably also need a Lost City of Gold/El Dorado area somewhere in this M-South America region...
Pre-GRoF Elven ruins?
Hmmm.... City of Gold becomes City of Gold Dragons? :D
Well, not necessarily another Wyrmsteeth, but draconic kingdoms in the same sense as those in the KW could be used.
BTW, it might be interesting to add a Githzerai fortress in one of the more remote, desertic areas of Davania. Since Githzerai often keep garrisons on prime worlds to guard against Githyanki or Mind Flayer invasions, such a garrison could exist in Mystara, with virtually no contact with the natives.
The garrison members' life would be similar to that of the soldiers in the book "The Tartar steppe" by Dino Buzzati (original title, "ll deserto dei Tartari", http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dino_Buzzati), who for the occasion to prove their worth against an enemy that never appears.
One could go for a more Sindbad-style setting than a classical arabian setting (which is already covered by Ylaruam), maybe using Golden Voyages and Cities of Bones.
Yeah, that is a good idea. I'm not familiar with Cities of Bones, but AFAIK Golden Voyages is a free download. Would definately make the setting different from Ylaruam, which is good.
Pre-GRoF Elven ruins?
That also works
Well, not necessarily another Wyrmsteeth, but draconic kingdoms in the same sense as those in the KW could be used.
Yeah, that is a possibility. Going with Mishler's idea, Davania is dominated by Metallic dragons (Gold Dragons in OD&D).
BTW, it might be interesting to add a Githzerai fortress in one of the more remote, desertic areas of Davania. Since Githzerai often keep garrisons on prime worlds to guard against Githyanki or Mind Flayer invasions, such a garrison could exist in Mystara, with virtually no contact with the natives.
The garrison members' life would be similar to that of the soldiers in the book "The Tartar steppe" by Dino Buzzati (original title, "ll deserto dei Tartari", http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dino_Buzzati), who for the occasion to prove their worth against an enemy that never appears.
Githzerai, Mind Flayers and Githyanki are a little un-Mystaran to my taste, but I like the concept of a civilization like that.
To go further with AD&D inspiration, something resembling Dark Sun Defilers/Preservers could also be brought into some of those desert areas. I guess the trick with anything like this is to make it as Mystaran as possible rather than blatant rip-offs...
Havard
Githzerai, Mind Flayers and Githyanki are a little un-Mystaran to my taste, but I like the concept of a civilization like that.
Sure, and indeed the point of it all would be that no Mind Flayer or Githyanki would have appeared in the millenary history of the fortress, nor would appear in any forseeable future ;)
To go further with AD&D inspiration, something resembling Dark Sun Defilers/Preservers could also be brought into some of those desert areas. I guess the trick with anything like this is to make it as Mystaran as possible rather than blatant rip-offs...
That's not difficult: Mystara already has its own version of defiling, i.e. Radiance use, which drains magic. Now, having yet another NoS in Davania might be too much, but it would be the easiest way to add Defilers to Mystara.
GP
Now, having yet another NoS in Davania might be too much, but it would be the easiest way to add Defilers to Mystara.
GP
This made me think though that some elves in southern Davania did adopt Blackmoor technology and that there could very likely be remnants of that hidden around with various effects. They are not a NoS but their energy may be used/manipulated by some populations.
Once every century, and at different times for each dragon type, there is an instinctive drive to gather for a massive dragon conclave. Each dragon species travels to a different area on the plane where they live. White and Crystal dragons go to the center of the coldest land. Black and Onyx dragons go to the center of the oldest swamp. Blue and Sapphire dragons meet at the center of the largest desert. Green and Jade dragons travel to the deepest heart of the darkest jungle. Red and Ruby dragons hold their conclave at the pinnacle of the highest mountaintop. Gold and Brown dragons meet in an enchanted valley especially created for them by the most magical of their kind.
Another interesting hint is the tag "Humanoids: Mixed race" ("race", not "races") that appears in the HW migrations' map. It may suggest a breeding of different humanoid races that happened in the Izondian/Brasol region sometime around BC900.
You might also add a Blue/Sapphire dragon meet in the center of the Aryptian Desert, which is the largest of Mystara. This info comes from AC10, page 4:
Once every century, and at different times for each dragon type, there is an instinctive drive to gather for a massive dragon conclave. Each dragon species travels to a different area on the plane where they live. White and Crystal dragons go to the center of the coldest land. Black and Onyx dragons go to the center of the oldest swamp. Blue and Sapphire dragons meet at the center of the largest desert. Green and Jade dragons travel to the deepest heart of the darkest jungle. Red and Ruby dragons hold their conclave at the pinnacle of the highest mountaintop. Gold and Brown dragons meet in an enchanted valley especially created for them by the most magical of their kind.
Interesting!
I suggest the Aryptian Basin would be a good meeting place for Blue and Saphire Dragons.
Green and Jade Dragons might aso find their jungle somewhere on Davania, eh?
Red and Ruby probably meet somewhere near the Wyrmsteeth Mountains.
Another interesting hint is the tag "Humanoids: Mixed race" ("race", not "races") that appears in the HW migrations' map. It may suggest a breeding of different humanoid races that happened in the Izondian/Brasol region sometime around BC900.
Cool! I wonder what these "Davanoids" look like? Any relation to the Minotaurs?
Havard
Red and Ruby probably meet somewhere near the Wyrmsteeth Mountains.
The Icereach range could go. But if it must be the highest mountaintop, other areas may apply.
The Icereach range could go. But if it must be the highest mountaintop, other areas may apply.
Absolutely. It would be nice if these areas were distributed among the various continents though. Skothar might be a candidate as well.
Sort of side tracked but: I still like the theory of how the different groups of Dragons have their centers on the three different continents: Chromatic dragons on Brun(Wyrmsteeth), Metallic (Gold) on Davania(Brasol Range) and Gemstone Dragons on Skothar...
Havard
Sort of side tracked but: I still like the theory of how the different groups of Dragons have their centers on the three different continents: Chromatic dragons on Brun(Wyrmsteeth), Metallic (Gold) on Davania(Brasol Range) and Gemstone Dragons on Skothar...
Uhm, I don't remember where I read this, but didn't the gemstone dragons come from some other world?
Also, in addition to the standard species, there's the Redhawk dragon in the Arm of the Immortal.
GP
Uhm, I don't remember where I read this, but didn't the gemstone dragons come from some other world?
It's from the Dragonlord series. Actually the dragons hailed from Mystara, but were Chromatic/Metallic Dragons who were turned into Gemstone Dragons by a strange creature from another dimension/world. IMC the dimension referred to was the Dimension of Nightmares. Originally, I thought of having the creator of Gemstone Dragons (The Master IIRC) a Draeden, but more likely he was an Exalted being (easily dispatched by Thelvyn once he became the Diamond Dragon).
It is assumed by the end of the trilogy that the Gemstone Dragons return to Mystara and become part of the Dragon Hierarchy.
Also, in addition to the standard species, there's the Redhawk dragon in the Arm of the Immortal.
Yeah, the Savage Coast needs to have it's own thing ofcourse
Havard
Thanks in advance,
GGG
As a point of interest can anyone tell me were I might find more info on the area encompassed by the Vulture Penninsula, Fire Bay, Diamond Ring and the Green River?
The Vulture Peninsula and the area immediately south of it are detailed in VotPA. I don't remember the course of the Princess Ark after the N'djatwa episode, but there might be something in either VotPA episodes 6 or 8.
The Lost Valley area which you are referring to has an entry in the Vaults Atlas section: http://pandius.com/lostvall.html
GP
The Vulture Peninsula and the area immediately south of it are detailed in VotPA. I don't remember the course of the Princess Ark after the N'djatwa episode, but there might be something in either VotPA episodes 6 or 8.
The Lost Valley area which you are referring to has an entry in the Vaults Atlas section: http://pandius.com/lostvall.html
Also the map and notes in this thread: http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=786943 will be useful for that region. Thats the main reason why that part of Davana hasn't been discussed much over here.
Havard
GGG
Thank you very much, this info will be most useful. Hopefully everyone gets to see the fruit of this in print in a year or two, with credit where credit is due.
Yay!
I'm looking forward to seeing what you come up with GGG
A follow up sort of adventure for the VotPA article on the the Vulture Peninsula perhaps?
The Nagpa also appeared in PC3: Top Balista, the two Creature Catalogues, the Mystara Monsterous Compendium (2e) and in a recent Dragon magazine article (3e).
Havard
Yay!
I'm looking forward to seeing what you come up with GGG
A follow up sort of adventure for the VotPA article on the the Vulture Peninsula perhaps?
The Nagpa also appeared in PC3: Top Balista, the two Creature Catalogues, the Mystara Monsterous Compendium (2e) and in a recent Dragon magazine article (3e).
Havard
Mayhaps. There are a couple of elements in the area that work very well and then there are some I could do without (thematically speaking) and to be honest I'm one for "cool adventure" over "canon," but we'll see.
As for a nagpa I may have that covered elsewhere. I depends on if it is accepted or not. Of the (currently) 24 adventure proposals I have in at Paizo and at least have a collaborative hand in 6 are set in Mystara (#25 is also set there if I can find the right place for it), most of the others a setting neutral with a short foray into Eberron as well - I'm such a sell out. ;)
Anyhow, I also do requests and collaborations (see the currently running Seeds of Sehan arc - Dungeon 145-147). This should probably be it's own thread. ;)
Gx3 (AKA Matt)
...with a short foray into Eberron as well - I'm such a sell out. ;)
:heehee
Couldn't resist! :D It is great to hear about the attempts to put Mystara in Dungeon - keep it up!
Mayhaps. There are a couple of elements in the area that work very well and then there are some I could do without (thematically speaking) and to be honest I'm one for "cool adventure" over "canon," but we'll see.
That philosophy makes sense to me. I like what you have done so far. It's nice if it meshes well with existing material though
Håvard