DL Character

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#1

dragonofthedawn

Apr 14, 2007 5:22:48
Centaur Fighter with TWF. What do you think of it?
#2

zombiegleemax

Apr 14, 2007 8:49:09
Stat the character out.
#3

darthsylver

Apr 14, 2007 18:22:36
What's TWF? Thief-Wizard-Fighter?
#4

r2-ds

Apr 14, 2007 22:26:36
What's TWF? Thief-Wizard-Fighter?

That would be a Centaur Fighter with Two Weapon Fighting.
#5

ranger_reg

Apr 15, 2007 0:56:05
Centaur Fighter with TWF. What do you think of it?

*looks around*

Think about what? I don't see the stats.
#6

dragonofthedawn

Apr 15, 2007 7:27:50
Sorry guys, I forgot to post the stats. Here they gi along with the bonuses from the class:
Str 24
Dex 18
Con 20
Int 10
Wis 14
Cha 10

What do you think of it? Not only the stats but the idea of it as well, and also some advice would be welcome :P
#7

r2-ds

Apr 15, 2007 8:21:38
I Love the concept. Be sure to take advantage of the Mostrous feats that Centaurs qualify for. Trample, Ride by attack and so forth.

If you havent already considered it.......might I sugggest CAVALIER as a Prc for this Character.
#8

dragonofthedawn

Apr 15, 2007 8:49:30
How exactly can i take on the Cavalier PrC? Just imagine the idea of a Half-Horse riding on an other horse:P It's a bit too much :P
#9

zombiegleemax

Apr 15, 2007 9:15:26
Bad Dragondawn, no pie for you.
#10

darthsylver

Apr 15, 2007 11:26:36
I was thinking the Reaping Mauler from Complete Warrior.
#11

dragonofthedawn

Apr 15, 2007 15:08:57
But the Reaping Mauler doesn't use TWF, does he?
#12

darthsylver

Apr 15, 2007 15:16:46
He uses grappling and you have two hands right?
#13

r2-ds

Apr 15, 2007 18:32:12
How exactly can i take on the Cavalier PrC? Just imagine the idea of a Half-Horse riding on an other horse:P It's a bit too much :P

With minimal modification.....you gain the classes abilities. You dont actually ride anything. Not a far stretch of the imagination..........

Reaping Mauler? I never would have considered for a Centaur. Minotaur maybe....but not a centaur. If thats your desire...have at it.
#14

darthsylver

Apr 15, 2007 18:45:57
Just imagine how hard it must be to pin a centaur. Now imagine if that same centaur is a specialist in the ways of grappling and wrestling.
#15

r2-ds

Apr 15, 2007 18:51:41
I have no problems envisioning the kind of Character you're describing. However the benfits are no better or worse than they are for "any" creature of that size........and I think that after a few sessions you'll get bored waiting outside all the dungeons while your companions perpetuate your DM's story.

Surely you must see the limitations of playing a creature that is "half horse". Dungeoneering is perhaps the greatest drawback to this character. Small corridors that may or may not be in a state of disrepair.......simple acts of climbing become all but impossible for this character.

If however you adventure primarily in the wilderness......then none of those problems really pertain to you. Just things to consider is all.
#16

darthsylver

Apr 15, 2007 19:22:29
Oh I do, it is dragon of the dawn who is thinking of playing the centaur. He was just asking for ideas for using two-weapon-fighting.
#17

r2-ds

Apr 15, 2007 19:33:45
Two weapon fighting Centaur?

Pair of Katana's maybe?
#18

zombiegleemax

Apr 15, 2007 20:25:54
A double bladed sword might be nice.
#19

dragonofthedawn

Apr 16, 2007 7:31:12
A pair of katanas would be very nice :P By the way, demon gods who exist in Forgottren Realms, exist in DL as well? I am thinking of a pair of katanas and Descipline of Dispater PrC. If they doesn't exist any ideas for PrC woth TWF would be welcome
#20

zombiegleemax

Apr 16, 2007 7:57:04
Dispater has no power in the lands of Krynn.
#21

cam_banks

Apr 16, 2007 10:26:52
Your best bet would be a tempest (from Complete Adventurer). You need BAB +6, and a number of feats (Dodge, Improved Two-Weapon Fighting, Mobility, Spring Attack, Two-Weapon Fighting). A 6th-level centaur ranger could qualify for it. Take Dodge as 1st level feat, Mobility as 3rd level, Spring Attack at 6th. Pick up the Two-Weapon Fighting feats through the ranger's Combat Style class ability. You also make use of really good Reflex and Fortitude saves, which the tempest makes good use of.

The tempest is only a 5 level PrC, which means you can head into something after only 11 levels (ranger 6/tempest 5) such as the dervish from Complete Warrior; just make sure to pick up Combat Expertise and Weapon Focus in a slashing weapon as you advance through tempest.

The double-bladed sword's a great idea, but you may get a lot out of the scimitar and kukri combo - huge threat rating, and as a Large creature the damage is still pretty good (1d8 for the scimitar and 1d6 for the kukri). Then, when you pick up the dervish levels, you can go nuts.

Cheers,
Cam
#22

dragonofthedawn

Apr 16, 2007 12:28:26
I like the tempest aspect since dispater has no power in Krynn, But what's the combo of kukri-scimitar?
#23

cam_banks

Apr 16, 2007 13:11:33
I like the tempest aspect since dispater has no power in Krynn, But what's the combo of kukri-scimitar?

Two weapons that threaten a critical hit on 18-20.

Cheers,
Cam
#24

dragonofthedawn

Apr 16, 2007 13:57:57
I prefer rapier. It's more fun rapier-scimitar :P
#25

cam_banks

Apr 16, 2007 14:40:55
I prefer rapier. It's more fun rapier-scimitar :P

Scimitar, with kukri off-hand, doesn't have as big an attack penalty, and works very well with the dervish prestige class. A centaur with a rapier is just weird.

Cheers,
Cam
#26

clarkvalentine

Apr 16, 2007 14:59:28
Someone recently saw Chronicles of Narnia, eh? ;)

A few things to consider:

- If you keep to the same weapon type in each hand, you can benefit better from weapon specific feats like Weapon Focus and Improved Critical.

- You might be able to talk your DM into letting you wield the scimitar off-hand with no additional penalty for it not being a light weapon. I'd probably allow it at my table, given the "cool" factor of the character concept and the mechanical disadvantages of not going with a two-handed weapon.
#27

cam_banks

Apr 16, 2007 15:38:02
- You might be able to talk your DM into letting you wield the scimitar off-hand with no additional penalty for it not being a light weapon. I'd probably allow it at my table, given the "cool" factor of the character concept and the mechanical disadvantages of not going with a two-handed weapon.

Yup. This is actually what the first level of the dervish PrC gives you. It's called Slashing Blades and lets you treat the scimitar as a light weapon for all purposes, such as off-hand attacks and so forth.

Cheers,
Cam
#28

r2-ds

Apr 16, 2007 16:39:55
My thoughts exactly! Dervish/Tempest is a very lethal two weapon prc combo.......

Don't forget your level adjustment for being a centaur though. Definintely something to consider when creating this character. Is the rest of your party made up of similar "higher powered" races, or are they regular humanoids?

You dont want to come up with a really cool concept that you couldnt play because you were too powerful for your group.
#29

brimstone

Apr 16, 2007 18:20:23
I've always really enjoyed the two-weapon fighting centaur barbarian. It worked easier with 3.0 rules than with 3.5 rules (because there were no monster hit die to have to deal with). But, with the great strength and dexterity bonuses, you don't have to worry about chosing between STR combat and DEX combat (you'd loose combat expertise while raged anyway).

Centaur is the perfect barbarian, and adding two weapon fighting to that would make him an absolute killing machine.

But then again, I think I've started to prefer straight classes to PrCs these days.
#30

darthsylver

Apr 16, 2007 18:54:02
Originally posted by clark valentine
- You might be able to talk your DM into letting you wield the scimitar off-hand with no additional penalty for it not being a light weapon. I'd probably allow it at my table, given the "cool" factor of the character concept and the mechanical disadvantages of not going with a two-handed weapon.

I do believe that the scimitar (a one-handed weapon for a medium sized creature) is a light weapon for a minotaur (a large size creature), unless it is a large sized scimitar. Or am I reading the rules wrong again?
#31

clarkvalentine

Apr 16, 2007 20:12:46
I do believe that the scimitar (a one-handed weapon for a medium sized creature) is a light weapon for a minotaur (a large size creature), unless it is a large sized scimitar. Or am I reading the rules wrong again?

Not with 3.5 weapon size rules. A large size creature would take a penalty when using a medium size weapon; he'd have to use a large size scimitar.

However, Cam points out that with the dervish PrC, it'd be legal anyway, even without a house rule.
#32

zombiegleemax

Apr 16, 2007 20:45:19
Maybe it could be an auxiliary of the Knights of Solamnia?
#33

darthsylver

Apr 16, 2007 21:01:58
That blows.