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#1 zombiegleemax Jul 01, 2007 19:36:35	Hey guys! We had our first game today and it went pretty well. My player has a Drow Ranger 2/ Rogue 6/ Assassin 9 that we have been playing for awhile. We started the character when he was a Rogue 5 / Assassin 9. His story was that he was an Assassin that wanted to redeem himself. We got kinda bored playing in FR so I decided to bring him to Dragonlance. I decided to have him captured by Slavers in FR, then he was taken to Sigil and sold to a Black Robed Wizard. The Wizard took him back to Krynn to experiment on. The Wizard wanted to discover the secret of his natural Spell Resistance. While in the Wizard's dungeons, he befriended a Gully Dwarf (BuBu - yea think Yogi) who helped him escape. He now has no magic items and only a Gully Dwarf as a guide to the World of Krynn. And the funny thing was, he had a really great time. I have decided that most people will think he is a plagued or a cursed elf. I am currently trying to make up a nickname for him. Like Blackthorn or Blackelf. I am running the Game in 350 AC, 2 years before the War of The Lance breaks into high gear. He is kinda high I know, but I think it should be kinda fun. Anyone got any story idea's that they want to throw my way?
#2 jewelprotector Jul 01, 2007 22:39:50	Wow...I've been trying to figure out how to get a drow to Krynn for weeks now... Here's an idea...I'm sure Takhisis will be fascinated by the idea of an entire race of evil elves. Have her send her minions to find out where he comes from--and then have her "import" some drow of her own. Since he wants to redeem himself, he'll end up fighting his own people, or advising other people how to fight them. Plus, given the drow race's cumpulsion for chaos and their worship of Lolth, the imported drow would likely thumb their noses at Takhisis (and won't that stick in all of her craws!) Anyway, that's my idea. I was going to write it as a piece of character fic, but you can have it if you want it.
#3 wolf72 Jul 02, 2007 16:05:45	so he's the victim of an interplanar kidnapping ring right? fine by me, I'd give a negative reaction almost everywhere
#4 borris Jul 03, 2007 0:17:27	Here's an idea...I'm sure Takhisis will be fascinated by the idea of an entire race of evil elves. An entire race? So far, there's only one drow, and he may be evil, but that has to be quite light if he's working to redeem himself. There's a good number of Qualinesti and Silvanesti elves that are mor eevil than that (such as Dalamr), and Takhisis doesn't necessarily show any great interest in them. I guess the drow's main antagonist, at least at first, will be the black robed wizards. And who else was on the black robe council in 350? Why, none other than Dalamar the Dark, who may be more than a little interested to learn about an inherently evil, magic-resistant race of dark (litteraly) elves. In DragonLance, elves who have "strayed from the Light" are already called dark elves, or drow, and sent into exile. It's a mark of shame and rejection. But an entire race that calls itself drow? Now that's worth investigating.
#5 rath_the_ranger Jul 03, 2007 11:27:07	An entire race? So far, there's only one drow, and he may be evil, but that has to be quite light if he's working to redeem himself. He's talking about if Takky found out about all the Drow over in FR and "imported" a bunch of them for her own purposes. And, if this drow on Krynn now has levels in Ranger, he's not evil at all (unless that rule has drastically changed).
#6 cam_banks Jul 03, 2007 11:38:12	And, if this drow on Krynn now has levels in Ranger, he's not evil at all (unless that rule has drastically changed). You can be evil and be a ranger, yes. Cheers, Cam
#7 zombiegleemax Jul 04, 2007 10:58:15	Not another one of these threads.
#8 zombiegleemax Jul 04, 2007 17:21:14	This gives me a great new idea for a new villain for my game. Bobo....The Evil Gully Dwarf Ranger!!!! Whahahahhaha!!!!!!!! :D
#9 zombiegleemax Jul 04, 2007 17:48:09	Poor little gully dwarf.
#10 rath_the_ranger Jul 05, 2007 9:53:05	You can be evil and be a ranger, yes. Cheers, Cam Did not know that, it's been WAY too long since I've played. btw, Good job on your short story in "Dragons of Time", Cam.
#11 rath_the_ranger Jul 05, 2007 9:53:50	Poor little gully dwarf. Not to mention all the bad things that will do to the Ranger community out there. HAHAHA
#12 cam_banks Jul 05, 2007 11:35:29	Did not know that, it's been WAY too long since I've played. This lets you create some really scary villains or bad guys, like gnoll rangers. btw, Good job on your short story in "Dragons of Time", Cam. Thanks! Or should I say, Hullek! Cheers, Cam
#13 zombiegleemax Jul 05, 2007 14:38:23	Gnoll rangers and gnoll druids are horrendous bad guys!
#14 lancereaver Jul 05, 2007 19:27:23	As soon as I get some more money, I'm going to pick up Dragons of Autumn. Maybe you guys can help me after I take a look through it.
#15 clarkvalentine Jul 05, 2007 21:37:16	As soon as I get some more money, I'm going to pick up Dragons of Autumn. Maybe you guys can help me after I take a look through it. An excellent choice (I am completely objective in this observation, I swear). There are, however, no drow in Dragons of Autumn. ;)
#16 rath_the_ranger Jul 06, 2007 8:29:34	Thanks! Or should I say, Hullek! Cheers, Cam LOLOLOLOLOL Too funny, bro.
#17 zombiegleemax Jul 06, 2007 8:53:58	Dragons of Autumn is an okay book.
#18 lancereaver Jul 06, 2007 10:38:33	I just think that woul be a good place to start, since I don't have any campaign books. We'd better get back to talking about drow, before this thread is shut down.
#19 pallysftwbaby Jul 06, 2007 23:48:28	In the campaign that I run, the drow are to the elves in some ways what the ogres are to the irda. A long time ago (I do not have a date for this exactly), large numbers of dark elves began gathering in communities. Most were evil and willing to work together to fight against their former kin. They relocated underground mainly due to their dark Qualinesti leaders wishing to forsake their former sun-revering ways. Millennia of following evil caused their change in appearance similar to that of the ogres, yet the ogres lost their attractiveness from a combination of being evil while being brutish and stupid, whereas the drow were always more intelligently and charmingly evil. The major differences between my DL drow and the FR drow are that in DL the drow are usually lawful evil, worship Sargas as a god of vengeance, and have no gender role distinction. Also their government has a lot less backstabbing because they are more willing to work together.
#20 zombiegleemax Jul 07, 2007 11:54:39	That makes a little more sense, but still, Drow, in the traditional sense, dont have much of a place in Dragonlance., imho. I like the way the dark elves of Ansalon are different from those in other worlds.
#21 borris Jul 07, 2007 18:09:55	I can see how living underground for generations can lead to light blindness and darkvision, but how do you explain the drow's spell resistance and spell-like abilities? The world of Forgotten Realms and Greyhawk have explanations as to how the Underdark ended up giving drow their strange power and, while I don't know much about the history of Eberron drow, I'm sure it's explained as well. However, I don't see how elves in Krynn would acquire such magical abilities just by living underground.
#22 clarkvalentine Jul 07, 2007 19:09:56	However, I don't see how elves in Krynn would acquire such magical abilities just by living underground. If you really wanted to go that route, it wouldn't be hard to cook up a story that would work. You could say that corrupted elves seduced by one of the dark gods - Hiddukel or Morgion perhaps - gained power above and beyond ordinary elves from their evil god. Alternately, Cam had a great idea of drow being elf/disir hybrids.
#23 pallysftwbaby Jul 08, 2007 23:24:43	All drow have spell-like abilities not from living underground, but the dark Silvanesti leaders chose to have all drow learn at least some magic in order to rebel against the caste system of their former society. As for spell resistance, over the years, the drow trained heavily in magic, producing many powerful Black Robe wizards who frequently practised spellcasting upon one another both to improve their magical technique and resistance. Any drow who has the intelligence and dedication can become a wizard; their society does not have the same restrictions as the Silvanesti. Drow who become red Robe wizards are generally somewhat distrusted; those who wear White Robes are either killed or exiled.
#24 zombiegleemax Jul 10, 2007 8:25:45	I still dont think that drow fit in Dragonlance.
#25 borris Jul 11, 2007 20:00:22	If any drow who has the intelligence and dedication can become a wizard, and the race gets a +2 racial bonus to Intelligence, wouldn't that mean there would be more drow than elf wizards in the Tower of High Sorcery? Like Treymordin, I don't think Drow fit in DragonLance. DragonLance needs its handful of exiled, fallen, "dark elves" (or "drow" as they're called at least once), but a whole subrace of dark elves with more powerful abilities just doesn't work, in my opinion.
#26 zombiegleemax Jul 11, 2007 23:23:44	I love the drow in worlds where they fit. Dragonlance is not one of those worlds.
#27 orodruin Jul 12, 2007 3:14:16	I love the drow in worlds where they fit. Dragonlance is not one of those worlds. Amen!
#28 darthsylver Jul 12, 2007 8:01:02	As a race I agree, that they don't fit the setting. But maybe a handfull running around and mucking things up, that I could handle. :D Like perhaps a hunting paty whose Wizard or Cleric teleport\gate spell went awry and now they are stuck in Krynn.
#29 zombiegleemax Jul 12, 2007 8:12:10	My understanding of current continuity is that the realms (Dragonlance, Greyhawk, etc.) are not accessible through regular spells or even starjamming anymore. The only way to get from a world to a world, if I am correct, is through Sigil.
#30 cam_banks Jul 12, 2007 9:44:51	My understanding of current continuity is that the realms (Dragonlance, Greyhawk, etc.) are not accessible through regular spells or even starjamming anymore. The only way to get from a world to a world, if I am correct, is through Sigil. No, the only way to get from world to world is through the Plane of Shadow. Sigil is still a part of the Great Wheel cosmology, one not shared by the Realms or Krynn. Cheers, Cam
#31 zombiegleemax Jul 12, 2007 20:07:26	one theory that always works is that the Drow have always been Takhisis favored children, righ tup there with her dragons, but have from the beginning of time, always lived in the Abyss...untill now when she is going to send them to Krynn to cause hell.