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#1 dasch_dup Aug 25, 2007 20:17:48	IF: One World's Age/King's Age equals 77 years. 189 full WA/KAs have passed prior to the current KA, KA 190. We are 26 years (as of FY 1) into this King's Age, KA 190. Mathematically: 189x77=14553 14553+26=14579 14579-1=14578 (-1 due to positive FY1) or 14579-2=14577 (-2 due to positive FY1 and counting a FY0) THEN: The 1st World's Age in the year of Ral's Fury is either FY -14578 or FY -14577. In other words, the Timeline's KA/FY correlations are incorrect. Has anyone else noticed this besides me?
#2 squidfur- Aug 25, 2007 23:15:02	FY 0 does not appear to be counted, so it'd likely be the first calculation.
#3 dasch_dup Aug 26, 2007 10:33:43	I decided to create a list of all the King's Age's Year of Ral's Fury and their Free Year equivalent. The Free Years include a Free Year 0, so if you don't want a Free Year 0 you will have to add a -1 to each negative Free Year (ex. FY -14577 becomes FY -14578). I see pros and cons to having a FY 0 vs not having it but since I like easy math I'm going with FY 0. Caution: This is a long post. Read the warning labels on your mouse and keyboard before continuing. ;) WA 001.01 = FY -14577 WA 002.01 = FY -14500 WA 003.01 = FY -14423 WA 004.01 = FY -14346 WA 005.01 = FY -14269 WA 006.01 = FY -14192 WA 007.01 = FY -14115 WA 008.01 = FY -14038 KA 009.01 = FY -13961 KA 010.01 = FY -13884 KA 011.01 = FY -13807 KA 012.01 = FY -13730 KA 013.01 = FY -13653 KA 014.01 = FY -13576 KA 015.01 = FY -13499 KA 016.01 = FY -13422 KA 017.01 = FY -13345 KA 018.01 = FY -13268 KA 019.01 = FY -13191 KA 020.01 = FY -13114 KA 021.01 = FY -13037 KA 022.01 = FY -12960 KA 023.01 = FY -12883 KA 024.01 = FY -12806 KA 025.01 = FY -12729 KA 026.01 = FY -12652 KA 027.01 = FY -12575 KA 028.01 = FY -12498 KA 029.01 = FY -12421 KA 030.01 = FY -12344 KA 031.01 = FY -12267 KA 032.01 = FY -12190 KA 033.01 = FY -12113 KA 034.01 = FY -12036 KA 035.01 = FY -11959 KA 036.01 = FY -11882 KA 037.01 = FY -11805 KA 038.01 = FY -11728 KA 039.01 = FY -11651 KA 040.01 = FY -11574 KA 041.01 = FY -11497 KA 042.01 = FY -11420 KA 043.01 = FY -11343 KA 044.01 = FY -11266 KA 045.01 = FY -11189 KA 046.01 = FY -11112 KA 047.01 = FY -11035 KA 048.01 = FY -10958 KA 049.01 = FY -10881 KA 050.01 = FY -10804 KA 051.01 = FY -10727 KA 052.01 = FY -10650 KA 053.01 = FY -10573 KA 054.01 = FY -10496 KA 055.01 = FY -10419 KA 056.01 = FY -10342 KA 057.01 = FY -10265 KA 058.01 = FY -10188 KA 059.01 = FY -10111 KA 060.01 = FY -10034 KA 061.01 = FY -9957 KA 062.01 = FY -9880 KA 063.01 = FY -9803 KA 064.01 = FY -9726 KA 065.01 = FY -9649 KA 066.01 = FY -9572 KA 067.01 = FY -9495 KA 068.01 = FY -9418 KA 069.01 = FY -9341 KA 070.01 = FY -9264 KA 071.01 = FY -9187 KA 072.01 = FY -9110 KA 073.01 = FY -9033 KA 074.01 = FY -8957 KA 075.01 = FY -8879 KA 076.01 = FY -8802 KA 077.01 = FY -8725 KA 078.01 = FY -8648 KA 079.01 = FY -8571 KA 080.01 = FY -8494 KA 081.01 = FY -8417 KA 082.01 = FY -8340 KA 083.01 = FY -8263 KA 084.01 = FY -8186 KA 085.01 = FY -8109 KA 086.01 = FY -8032 KA 087.01 = FY -7955 KA 088.01 = FY -7878 KA 089.01 = FY -7801 KA 090.01 = FY -7724 KA 091.01 = FY -7647 KA 092.01 = FY -7570 KA 093.01 = FY -7493 KA 094.01 = FY -7416 KA 095.01 = FY -7339 KA 096.01 = FY -7262 KA 097.01 = FY -7185 KA 098.01 = FY -7108 KA 099.01 = FY -7031 KA 100.01 = FY -6954 KA 101.01 = FY -6877 KA 102.01 = FY -6800 KA 103.01 = FY -6723 KA 104.01 = FY -6646 KA 105.01 = FY -6569 KA 106.01 = FY -6492 KA 107.01 = FY -6415 KA 108.01 = FY -6338 KA 109.01 = FY -6261 KA 110.01 = FY -6184 KA 111.01 = FY -6107 KA 112.01 = FY -6030 KA 113.01 = FY -5953 KA 114.01 = FY -5876 KA 115.01 = FY -5799 KA 116.01 = FY -5722 KA 117.01 = FY -5645 KA 118.01 = FY -5568 KA 119.01 = FY -5491 KA 120.01 = FY -5414 KA 121.01 = FY -5337 KA 122.01 = FY -5260 KA 123.01 = FY -5183 KA 124.01 = FY -5106 KA 125.01 = FY -5029 KA 126.01 = FY -4952 KA 127.01 = FY -4875 KA 128.01 = FY -4798 KA 129.01 = FY -4721 KA 130.01 = FY -4644 KA 131.01 = FY -4567 KA 132.01 = FY -4490 KA 133.01 = FY -4413 KA 134.01 = FY -4336 KA 135.01 = FY -4259 KA 136.01 = FY -4182 KA 137.01 = FY -4105 KA 138.01 = FY -4028 KA 139.01 = FY -3951 KA 140.01 = FY -3874 KA 141.01 = FY -3797 KA 142.01 = FY -3720 KA 143.01 = FY -3643 KA 144.01 = FY -3566 KA 145.01 = FY -3489 KA 146.01 = FY -3412 KA 147.01 = FY -3335 KA 148.01 = FY -3258 KA 149.01 = FY -3181 KA 150.01 = FY -3104 KA 151.01 = FY -3027 KA 152.01 = FY -2950 KA 153.01 = FY -2873 KA 154.01 = FY -2796 KA 155.01 = FY -2719 KA 156.01 = FY -2642 KA 157.01 = FY -2565 KA 158.01 = FY -2488 KA 159.01 = FY -2411 KA 160.01 = FY -2334 KA 161.01 = FY -2257 KA 162.01 = FY -2180 KA 163.01 = FY -2103 KA 164.01 = FY -2026 KA 165.01 = FY -1949 KA 166.01 = FY -1872 KA 167.01 = FY -1795 KA 168.01 = FY -1718 KA 169.01 = FY -1641 KA 170.01 = FY -1564 KA 171.01 = FY -1487 KA 172.01 = FY -1410 KA 173.01 = FY -1333 KA 174.01 = FY -1256 KA 175.01 = FY -1179 KA 176.01 = FY -1102 KA 177.01 = FY -1025 KA 178.01 = FY -948 KA 179.01 = FY -871 KA 180.01 = FY -794 KA 181.01 = FY -717 KA 182.01 = FY -640 KA 183.01 = FY -563 KA 184.01 = FY -486 KA 185.01 = FY -409 KA 186.01 = FY -332 KA 187.01 = FY -255 KA 188.01 = FY -178 KA 189.01 = FY -101 KA 190.01 = FY -24 KA 191.01 = FY 53 KA 192.01 = FY 130 KA 193.01 = FY 207 KA 194.01 = FY 284 KA 195.01 = FY 361 KA 196.01 = FY 438 KA 197.01 = FY 515 KA 198.01 = FY 592 KA 199.01 = FY 669 KA 200.01 = FY 746 Yes, this may have been overdoing it but, I hope this helps in some small way.
#4 squidfur- Aug 28, 2007 2:03:07	Not sure if I'm alone in feeling that having a FY 0 just seems odd (maybe only because we do not count a year 0 in our own BC/AD conception of time). I do, however, believe we need to come to a consensus on this, so that all timeline material can be corrected under the same guideline (I am aware of at least two upcoming releases with timelines that build off the present [incorrect] one, and will thus need to be corrected as well). So, to all others... Should the year preceding FY 1 be FY 0 or FY -1 ?????
#5 phoenix_m Aug 28, 2007 7:30:56	The current Gregorian calendar isn't the only calendar humans have used. But to cut to the chase, no calendar (to the best of my knowledge) has ever had a year "0", they all start with The First Year of [fill in the blank]. So the Free Year Calendar should go something like "FY -2, FY -1, FY 1, FY 2, etc..."
#6 dasch_dup Aug 30, 2007 10:41:46	In my opinion we should use a 0 to make the math easier. If you think about it, no one on Athas is going to use a negative number anyways. Sadira isn't going to say she met Rikus in FY -7, she'll say she met him in the Year of Guthay's Agitation. She probably wouldn't even say what King's Age she met him. When you use a calendar to date years prior to its beginning, it becomes proleptic. We as "real people" will use this Proleptic Calendar of Tyr to gauge time for our convenience, not for an athasian's convenience. That is why I am for a FY 0.
#7 dasch_dup Sep 02, 2007 12:44:09	The following is a list of all the years the Messenger appeared in the Athasian Sky. My calculations include a FY 0. 1st: FY -13898 = KA 009.64 2nd: FY -13853 = KA 010.32 3rd: FY -13808 = KA 010.77 4th: FY -13763 = KA 011.45 5th: FY -13718 = KA 012.13 6th: FY -13673 = KA 012.58 7th: FY -13628 = KA 013.26 8th: FY -13583 = KA 013.71 9th: FY -13538 = KA 014.39 10th: FY -13493 = KA 015.07 11th: FY -13448 = KA 015.52 12th: FY -13403 = KA 016.20 13th: FY -13358 = KA 016.65 14th: FY -13313 = KA 017.33 15th: FY -13268 = KA 018.01 16th: FY -13223 = KA 018.46 17th: FY -13178 = KA 019.14 18th: FY -13133 = KA 019.59 19th: FY -13088 = KA 020.27 20th: FY -13043 = KA 020.72 21st: FY -12998 = KA 021.40 22nd: FY -12953 = KA 022.08 23rd: FY -12908 = KA 022.53 24th: FY -12863 = KA 023.21 25th: FY -12818 = KA 023.66 26th: FY -12773 = KA 024.34 27th: FY -12728 = KA 025.02 28th: FY -12683 = KA 025.47 29th: FY -12638 = KA 026.15 30th: FY -12593 = KA 026.60 31st: FY -12548 = KA 027.28 32nd: FY -12503 = KA 027.73 33rd: FY -12458 = KA 028.41 34th: FY -12413 = KA 029.09 35th: FY -12368 = KA 029.54 36th: FY -12323 = KA 030.22 37th: FY -12278 = KA 030.67 38th: FY -12233 = KA 031.35 39th: FY -12188 = KA 032.03 40th: FY -12143 = KA 032.48 41st: FY -12098 = KA 033.16 42nd: FY -12053 = KA 033.61 43rd: FY -12008 = KA 034.29 44th: FY -11963 = KA 034.74 45th: FY -11918 = KA 035.42 46th: FY -11873 = KA 036.10 47th: FY -11828 = KA 036.55 48th: FY -11783 = KA 037.23 49th: FY -11738 = KA 037.68 50th: FY -11693 = KA 038.36 51st: FY -11648 = KA 039.04 52nd: FY -11603 = KA 039.49 53rd: FY -11558 = KA 040.17 54th: FY -11513 = KA 040.62 55th: FY -11468 = KA 041.30 56th: FY -11423 = KA 041.75 57th: FY -11378 = KA 042.43 58th: FY -11333 = KA 043.11 59th: FY -11288 = KA 043.56 60th: FY -11243 = KA 044.24 61st: FY -11198 = KA 044.69 62nd: FY -11153 = KA 045.37 63rd: FY -11108 = KA 046.05 64th: FY -11063 = KA 046.50 65th: FY -11018 = KA 047.18 66th: FY -10973 = KA 047.63 67th: FY -10928 = KA 048.31 68th: FY -10883 = KA 048.76 69th: FY -10838 = KA 049.44 70th: FY -10793 = KA 050.12 71st: FY -10748 = KA 050.57 72nd: FY -10703 = KA 051.25 73rd: FY -10658 = KA 051.70 74th: FY -10613 = KA 052.38 75th: FY -10568 = KA 053.06 76th: FY -10523 = KA 053.51 77th: FY -10478 = KA 054.19 78th: FY -10433 = KA 054.64 79th: FY -10388 = KA 055.32 80th: FY -10343 = KA 055.77 81st: FY -10298 = KA 056.45 82nd: FY -10253 = KA 057.13 83rd: FY -10208 = KA 057.58 84th: FY -10163 = KA 058.26 85th: FY -10118 = KA 058.71 86th: FY -10073 = KA 059.39 87th: FY -10028 = KA 060.07 88th: FY -9983 = KA 060.52 89th: FY -9938 = KA 061.20 90th: FY -9893 = KA 061.65 91st: FY -9848 = KA 062.33 92nd: FY -9803 = KA 063.01 93rd: FY -9758 = KA 063.46 94th: FY -9713 = KA 064.14 95th: FY -9668 = KA 064.59 96th: FY -9623 = KA 065.27 97th: FY -9578 = KA 065.72 98th: FY -9533 = KA 066.40 99th: FY -9488 = KA 067.08 100th: FY -9443 = KA 067.53 101st: FY -9398 = KA 068.21 102nd: FY -9353 = KA 068.66 103rd: FY -9308 = KA 069.34 104th: FY -9263 = KA 070.02 105th: FY -9218 = KA 070.47 106th: FY -9173 = KA 071.15 107th: FY -9128 = KA 071.60 108th: FY -9083 = KA 072.28 109th: FY -9038 = KA 072.73 110th: FY -8993 = KA 073.41 111th: FY -8948 = KA 074.09 112th: FY -8903 = KA 074.54 113th: FY -8858 = KA 075.22 114th: FY -8813 = KA 075.67 115th: FY -8768 = KA 076.35 116th: FY -8723 = KA 077.03 117th: FY -8678 = KA 077.48 118th: FY -8633 = KA 078.16 119th: FY -8588 = KA 078.61 120th: FY -8543 = KA 079.29 121st: FY -8498 = KA 079.74 122nd: FY -8453 = KA 080.42 123rd: FY -8408 = KA 081.10 124th: FY -8363 = KA 081.55 125th: FY -8318 = KA 082.23 126th: FY -8273 = KA 082.68 127th: FY -8228 = KA 083.36 128th: FY -8183 = KA 084.04 129th: FY -8138 = KA 084.49 130th: FY -8093 = KA 085.17 131st: FY -8048 = KA 085.62 132nd: FY -8003 = KA 086.30 133rd: FY -7958 = KA 086.75 134th: FY -7913 = KA 087.43 135th: FY -7868 = KA 088.11 136th: FY -7823 = KA 088.56 137th: FY -7778 = KA 089.24 138th: FY -7733 = KA 089.69 139th: FY -7688 = KA 090.37 140th: FY -7643 = KA 091.05 141st: FY -7598 = KA 091.50 142nd: FY -7553 = KA 092.18 143rd: FY -7508 = KA 092.63 144th: FY -7463 = KA 093.31 145th: FY -7418 = KA 093.76 146th: FY -7373 = KA 094.44 147th: FY -7328 = KA 095.12 148th: FY -7283 = KA 095.57 149th: FY -7238 = KA 096.25 150th: FY -7193 = KA 096.70 151st: FY -7148 = KA 097.38 152nd: FY -7103 = KA 098.06 153rd: FY -7058 = KA 098.51 154th: FY -7013 = KA 099.19 155th: FY -6968 = KA 099.64 156th: FY -6923 = KA 100.32 157th: FY -6878 = KA 100.77 158th: FY -6833 = KA 101.45 159th: FY -6788 = KA 102.13 160th: FY -6743 = KA 102.58 161st: FY -6698 = KA 103.26 162nd: FY -6653 = KA 103.71 163rd: FY -6608 = KA 104.39 164th: FY -6563 = KA 105.07 165th: FY -6518 = KA 105.52 166th: FY -6473 = KA 106.20 167th: FY -6428 = KA 106.65 168th: FY -6383 = KA 107.33 169th: FY -6338 = KA 108.01 170th: FY -6293 = KA 108.46 171st: FY -6248 = KA 109.14 172nd: FY -6203 = KA 109.59 173rd: FY -6158 = KA 110.27 174th: FY -6113 = KA 110.72 175th: FY -6068 = KA 111.40 176th: FY -6023 = KA 112.08 177th: FY -5978 = KA 112.53 178th: FY -5933 = KA 113.21 179th: FY -5888 = KA 113.66 180th: FY -5843 = KA 114.34 181st: FY -5798 = KA 115.02 182nd: FY -5753 = KA 115.47 183rd: FY -5708 = KA 116.15 184th: FY -5663 = KA 116.60 185th: FY -5618 = KA 117.28 186th: FY -5573 = KA 117.73 187th: FY -5528 = KA 118.41 188th: FY -5483 = KA 119.09 189th: FY -5438 = KA 119.54 190th: FY -5393 = KA 120.22 191st: FY -5348 = KA 120.67 192nd: FY -5303 = KA 121.35 193rd: FY -5258 = KA 122.03 194th: FY -5213 = KA 122.48 195th: FY -5168 = KA 123.16 196th: FY -5123 = KA 123.61 197th: FY -5078 = KA 124.29 198th: FY -5033 = KA 125.74 199th: FY -4988 = KA 126.42 200th: FY -4943 = KA 127.10 201st: FY -4898 = KA 127.55 202nd: FY -4853 = KA 127.23 203rd: FY -4808 = KA 127.68 204th: FY -4763 = KA 128.36 205th: FY -4718 = KA 129.04 206th: FY -4673 = KA 129.49 207th: FY -4628 = KA 130.17 208th: FY -4583 = KA 130.62 209th: FY -4538 = KA 131.30 210th: FY -4493 = KA 131.75 211th: FY -4448 = KA 132.43 212th: FY -4403 = KA 133.11 213th: FY -4358 = KA 133.56 214th: FY -4313 = KA 134.24 215th: FY -4268 = KA 134.69 216th: FY -4223 = KA 135.37 217th: FY -4178 = KA 136.05 218th: FY -4133 = KA 136.50 219th: FY -4088 = KA 137.18 220th: FY -4043 = KA 137.63 221st: FY -3998 = KA 138.31 222nd: FY -3953 = KA 138.76 223rd: FY -3908 = KA 139.44 224th: FY -3863 = KA 140.12 225th: FY -3818 = KA 140.57 226th: FY -3773 = KA 141.25 227th: FY -3728 = KA 141.70 228th: FY -3683 = KA 142.38 229th: FY -3638 = KA 143.06 230th: FY -3593 = KA 143.51 231st: FY -3548 = KA 144.19 232nd: FY -3503 = KA 144.64 233rd: FY -3458 = KA 145.32 234th: FY -3413 = KA 145.77 235th: FY -3368 = KA 146.45 236th: FY -3323 = KA 147.13 237th: FY -3278 = KA 147.58 238th: FY -3233 = KA 148.26 239th: FY -3188 = KA 148.71 240th: FY -3143 = KA 149.39 241st: FY -3098 = KA 150.07 242nd: FY -3053 = KA 150.52 243rd: FY -3008 = KA 151.20 244th: FY -2963 = KA 151.65 245th: FY -2918 = KA 152.33 246th: FY -2873 = KA 153.01 247th: FY -2828 = KA 153.46 248th: FY -2783 = KA 154.14 249th: FY -2738 = KA 154.59 250th: FY -2693 = KA 155.27 251st: FY -2648 = KA 155.72 252nd: FY -2603 = KA 156.40 253rd: FY -2558 = KA 157.08 254th: FY -2513 = KA 157.53 255th: FY -2468 = KA 158.21 256th: FY -2423 = KA 158.66 257th: FY -2378 = KA 159.34 258th: FY -2333 = KA 160.02 259th: FY -2288 = KA 160.47 260th: FY -2243 = KA 161.15 261st: FY -2198 = KA 161.60 262nd: FY -2153 = KA 162.28 263rd: FY -2108 = KA 162.73 264th: FY -2063 = KA 163.41 265th: FY -2018 = KA 164.09 266th: FY -1973 = KA 164.54 267th: FY -1928 = KA 165.22 268th: FY -1883 = KA 165.67 269th: FY -1838 = KA 166.35 270th: FY -1793 = KA 167.03 271st: FY -1748 = KA 167.48 272nd: FY -1703 = KA 168.16 273rd: FY -1658 = KA 168.61 274th: FY -1613 = KA 169.29 275th: FY -1568 = KA 169.74 276th: FY -1523 = KA 170.42 277th: FY -1478 = KA 171.10 278th: FY -1433 = KA 171.55 279th: FY -1388 = KA 172.23 280th: FY -1343 = KA 172.68 281st: FY -1298 = KA 173.36 282nd: FY -1253 = KA 174.04 283rd: FY -1208 = KA 174.49 284th: FY -1163 = KA 175.17 285th: FY -1118 = KA 175.62 286th: FY -1073 = KA 176.30 287th: FY -1028 = KA 176.75 288th: FY -983 = KA 177.43 289th: FY -938 = KA 178.11 290th: FY -893 = KA 178.56 291st: FY -848 = KA 179.24 292nd: FY -803 = KA 179.69 293rd: FY -758 = KA 180.37 294th: FY -713 = KA 181.05 295th: FY -668 = KA 181.50 296th: FY -623 = KA 182.18 297th: FY -578 = KA 182.63 298th: FY -533 = KA 183.31 299th: FY -488 = KA 183.76 300th: FY -443 = KA 184.44 301st: FY -398 = KA 185.22 302nd: FY -353 = KA 185.57 303rd: FY -308 = KA 186.25 304th: FY -263 = KA 186.70 305th: FY -218 = KA 187.38 306th: FY -173 = KA 188.06 307th: FY -128 = KA 188.51 308th: FY -83 = KA 189.19 309th: FY -38 = KA 189.64