I've read EttRoG and have found it to be a very excellent product but considering the name, it is specifically for the Greyhawk setting.
So the question is, where would you place Castle Greyhawk in Mystara? What Mystaran NPCs would you use to replace the Greyhawk NPCs (Iggwilv, Zagig/Zagyg, Iuz, Zuoken, Robilar/Bilarro) Or would you just insert them into Mystara as-is? What about those demons/devils (or whatever they're called these days)? Compare, contrast and support your conclusions.
Also, those of us (myself included here) who thought that Mystara would never be seen in a 35e product should look at page 188. I really think that credit can be given to James Jaccobs. :D
--Ray.
As for NPC replacements, that's tougher. Henry Itheldown (was that his name?) as Zagyg would be the easiest to think of.
Razrog could possibly substitute for Zuoken (being a demon trapped in the castle), though he's decidedly different in personality.
The others I think you could probably leave as is- have "Mordenkainen" be a powerful and well known Darokinian wizard; same with "Iggwilv" (powerful and ancient witch known across the lands). "Iuz"... well, I don't know. He's kind of tough. Iuz would need to be some kind of fledgling Immortal, though I don't know offhand who fits.
(BTW- What's on page 188?)
"Iuz"... well, I don't know. He's kind of tough. Iuz would need to be some kind of fledgling Immortal, though I don't know offhand who fits.
The Master of the Desert Nomads sort of fits Iuz's usage. Iuz rules a distant empire far away but seeks to move an army hundreds (thousands?) of miles underground to get to the heart of the Greyhawk domain for eventual conquest. This his mission to invade the Castle Greyhawk ruins
(BTW- What's on page 188?)
[INDENT]"In the coming weeks, Castle Greyhawk and its dungeons will vanish from the Cairn Hills as if they were never there, and then appear for a time on some distant plane or even some other world with a name such as Faerûn or Eberron or Mystara."[/INDENT]
[INDENT]"In the coming weeks, Castle Greyhawk and its dungeons will vanish from the Cairn Hills as if they were never there, and then appear for a time on some distant plane or even some other world with a name such as Faerûn or Eberron or Mystara."[/INDENT]
Wow. That is rather surprising to see Mystara listed with those two, and no other settings. Is this implying that after the adventure is complete the castle will shift planes/worlds?
It also sounds a bit like that place that is connected to the plane of the feys. (Sorry, I'm at work, it's early, and my mind refuses to function fully until I finish this coffee). What's that place that phases in and out? Haven? The palace of the silver princess? I'm not completely imagining this, am I?
It also sounds a bit like that place that is connected to the plane of the feys. (Sorry, I'm at work, it's early, and my mind refuses to function fully until I finish this coffee). What's that place that phases in and out? Haven? The palace of the silver princess? I'm not completely imagining this, am I?
Youre right. Its Haven, though the idea comes from Mystaros, incorporated in the works of other fans (including me) and not strictly canon. I agree that Castle Greyhawk (yikes I would change the name though) could work the same way, perhaps even appearing in Haven or even on the location corresponding to the Silver Palace on the Adri Varma Plateau using the Orange Cover B3 as a reference...
Havard
[INDENT]"In the coming weeks, Castle Greyhawk and its dungeons will vanish from the Cairn Hills as if they were never there, and then appear for a time on some distant plane or even some other world with a name such as Faerûn or Eberron or Mystara."[/INDENT]
Thankyou James!
I notice that it says Mystara and not Athas, Krynn, Cerilla etc...
Havard
An afterthought..... Maybe it could be placed outside Alpha in Norwold?
--Ray.
Thankyou James!
Just for the record, I don't know if James was the one who put that on page 188 but he is the most likely of the three authors to do so.
--Ray.
Suggestion: Castle Greyhawk replaces Castle d'Amberville. The stuff under the castle which is the center of the plot (which I don't want to spoiler) was created by Etienne during his research with the radiance which eventually led to his immortality. Replace the Wizard's guild break in with the school of Magic; use Etienne in place of Mordenkainen--he sees the PCs as potential future immortals and wants to test them.
Havard
The second one wouldn't need any work to translate characters like Iuz, Iggwilv, General Rehmat, Vayne, Zuoken, etc. or places like the Cairn Hills, the Free City, the Lake of Unknown Depths, etc. to Mystaran equivalents. The first one would need translation, obviously.
If the second option was chosen, all that is needed is for the DM to pick a cool place for a ruin with three towers and more than a dozen underground levels of dungeons to blink into existence.
If the second option was chosen, all that is needed is for the DM to pick a cool place for a ruin with three towers and more than a dozen underground levels of dungeons to blink into existence.
Sounds a bit easier ;)
Havard
The second would be where to put Castle Greyhawk after it planeshifts to Mystara from the Cairn Hills once the adventure is run to completion.
This is my preference. We already have canon references linking Mystara to Toril... And Oerth and Toril are linked... it only makes sense that Mystara and Oerth are linked as well.
Roger
We already have canon references linking Mystara to Toril...
W00T?
Havard
W00T?
The Northern Reaches gaz mentions portals leading to the Realms. I will have to find the gaz later to quote specific references.
Roger