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Pocket Domain Question

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#1
ravenloftlover347
Nov 20, 2007 16:00:22 Does a fiend's reality wrinkle count as a pocket domain? I have this plan in mind for an adventure involving a fiend, but I want wasn't sure if the area inside his reality wrinkle would be considered a pocket domain. This is kind of important to certain aspects of the adventure, like the dread flesh golem he created trying to make a stitched devil (except it wasn't suppose to be a devil, but a fiend which was to be NE) but failed. If any are interested, once I have my fiend completed, I can post him, along with the fiendflesh dread golem who is seeking to destroy him.
#2
highpriestmikhal
Nov 20, 2007 17:30:57 According to the RAW, a fiend's reality wrinkle is a pocket domain. However they have no power over their surroundings (barring domain-based powers from power rituals or their own powers). This "moving pocket domain" supercedes the local darklord and any of their granted powers no longer work (controlling animals or other minions, closed domain borders, even magic used by the darklord personally, darklord even lose any immunities granted by their status as darklords). Non-darklords are unaffected, save the borders are always open.

In short, yes it's a pocket domain but no, the fiend has no control over the wrinkle beyond willing it to be smaller. Anything the fiend owns or creates could be used against it if it goes outside its wrinkle, as well. As for whether that golem has a reality wrinkle...maybe not in the domain it was "born" in but yes in all others.
#3
ravenloftlover347
Nov 21, 2007 12:35:03 The fiendflesh dread golem doesn't have a wrinkle, or at least, I wasn't planning on him having one. The main idea behind the dread golem was that Hapzim the Bleached (that's the name of my fiend, whose a Khumat) tried to make a stitched devil using parts of fiends that he slayed in his bid to obtain power, but because he didn't do it right (read "his desire to create one polluted the process"), it became a dread golem instead. I suppose it would make sense that it would have a wrinkle though since it's still fiend flesh, but would it have the domain-powers that the fiends that make up its body had?
#4
highpriestmikhal
Nov 21, 2007 13:58:36 In a word, no. Because these powers represent a corruption of their soul (as their shrinking wrinkle shows) it isn't retained in their dead flesh. Also, it has to have the Extraplanar subtype to have a reality wrinkle (and I'm going to assume it does, though if created in RL the domain it was "born" in would be it's "home plane" and thus lose its wrinkle there).

Edit: Make that "Extraplanar and Good or Evil subtypes."
#5
ravenloftlover347
Nov 22, 2007 12:45:19 So to have a wrinkle, it would need to still be "alive", yes? Or would a fiendlich still have one?
#6
highpriestmikhal
Nov 22, 2007 18:57:51 There's nothing that says the outsider has to be "alive." Just that they have the Extraplanar subtype and either the Good or Evil subtype as well.

Edit: To have a reality wrinkle in RL they only need the subtypes listed.
#7
thanael
Nov 23, 2007 3:10:16 An undead outsider is impossible by the RAW.
#8
kwdblade
Nov 23, 2007 5:45:39 Thus why Orcus defies all logic...
#9
highpriestmikhal
Nov 23, 2007 10:37:32 And visages, demonflesh golems, and countless unique creatures.

Edit: The point is that any creature with both the Extraplanar and either the Good or Evil subtypes will have a reality wrinkle according to the RAW in the RLDMG. It doesn't have to be a true outsider.
#10
tykus
Nov 29, 2007 18:23:07
An undead outsider is impossible by the RAW.

Hence, the Dark Powers shall work to release that entropal hiding in the depths of Darkon.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 ravenloftlover347 Nov 20, 2007 16:00:22	Does a fiend's reality wrinkle count as a pocket domain? I have this plan in mind for an adventure involving a fiend, but I want wasn't sure if the area inside his reality wrinkle would be considered a pocket domain. This is kind of important to certain aspects of the adventure, like the dread flesh golem he created trying to make a stitched devil (except it wasn't suppose to be a devil, but a fiend which was to be NE) but failed. If any are interested, once I have my fiend completed, I can post him, along with the fiendflesh dread golem who is seeking to destroy him.
#2 highpriestmikhal Nov 20, 2007 17:30:57	According to the RAW, a fiend's reality wrinkle is a pocket domain. However they have no power over their surroundings (barring domain-based powers from power rituals or their own powers). This "moving pocket domain" supercedes the local darklord and any of their granted powers no longer work (controlling animals or other minions, closed domain borders, even magic used by the darklord personally, darklord even lose any immunities granted by their status as darklords). Non-darklords are unaffected, save the borders are always open. In short, yes it's a pocket domain but no, the fiend has no control over the wrinkle beyond willing it to be smaller. Anything the fiend owns or creates could be used against it if it goes outside its wrinkle, as well. As for whether that golem has a reality wrinkle...maybe not in the domain it was "born" in but yes in all others.
#3 ravenloftlover347 Nov 21, 2007 12:35:03	The fiendflesh dread golem doesn't have a wrinkle, or at least, I wasn't planning on him having one. The main idea behind the dread golem was that Hapzim the Bleached (that's the name of my fiend, whose a Khumat) tried to make a stitched devil using parts of fiends that he slayed in his bid to obtain power, but because he didn't do it right (read "his desire to create one polluted the process"), it became a dread golem instead. I suppose it would make sense that it would have a wrinkle though since it's still fiend flesh, but would it have the domain-powers that the fiends that make up its body had?
#4 highpriestmikhal Nov 21, 2007 13:58:36	In a word, no. Because these powers represent a corruption of their soul (as their shrinking wrinkle shows) it isn't retained in their dead flesh. Also, it has to have the Extraplanar subtype to have a reality wrinkle (and I'm going to assume it does, though if created in RL the domain it was "born" in would be it's "home plane" and thus lose its wrinkle there). Edit: Make that "Extraplanar and Good or Evil subtypes."
#5 ravenloftlover347 Nov 22, 2007 12:45:19	So to have a wrinkle, it would need to still be "alive", yes? Or would a fiendlich still have one?
#6 highpriestmikhal Nov 22, 2007 18:57:51	There's nothing that says the outsider has to be "alive." Just that they have the Extraplanar subtype and either the Good or Evil subtype as well. Edit: To have a reality wrinkle in RL they only need the subtypes listed.
#7 thanael Nov 23, 2007 3:10:16	An undead outsider is impossible by the RAW.
#8 kwdblade Nov 23, 2007 5:45:39	Thus why Orcus defies all logic...
#9 highpriestmikhal Nov 23, 2007 10:37:32	And visages, demonflesh golems, and countless unique creatures. Edit: The point is that any creature with both the Extraplanar and either the Good or Evil subtypes will have a reality wrinkle according to the RAW in the RLDMG. It doesn't have to be a true outsider.
#10 tykus Nov 29, 2007 18:23:07	An undead outsider is impossible by the RAW. Hence, the Dark Powers shall work to release that entropal hiding in the depths of Darkon.