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#1
Pennarin
Feb 16, 2008 15:46:05 Ok, I miss summer. Moving on :D

I'd like to know people's opinions on seeing a revival of the Wind Mages movement, and by that I don't necessarily mean modern day preservers starting up that revival (since they probably wouldn't have a clue, or the ressources) but rather a few old time members of the Mages being brough back to life, or out of stasis, or [insert here other plot device], and they try to revive the struggle between preserving and defiling.

(Check out the Athasian Emporium, the magic items called gems of Amara (Amara being a former leader of the Mages) which would be perfect for storing the essence of the great leaders of ages past....)
#2
adidamps2
Feb 16, 2008 21:34:37 what's a Wind Mage?
#3
Pennarin
Feb 17, 2008 8:10:48 Terrorist organization composed of preservers working to oppose the rise of the defiler warlords (Preserver Jihad) and afterwards the Champions (Cleansing Wars).

Best known today for creating the Psionatrix. See the first page of the hand-drawn booklet in Dragon's Crown, they're mentionned there.
#4
Zardnaar
Feb 17, 2008 12:12:24 I was thinking of this the other day. A handful (1-6) have survived and they have a remote ruin stocked with various material from over the ages. Main goal is survival. Does it ever state that they get totally wiped out?
#5
Pennarin
Feb 17, 2008 14:25:56 It doesn't mention an end to the hostilities, per say, just that eventually the Jihad turned into the Cleansing Wars, and then the Wars were over and then records cease to mention skirmishes and wars by races not yet fully cleansed or by surviving militant preservers.

It's like everything stopped with Rajaat's imprisonment.

It screams of secrets and unknown events. I.e. fun.
#6
Zardnaar
Feb 17, 2008 21:59:47
It doesn't mention an end to the hostilities, per say, just that eventually the Jihad turned into the Cleansing Wars, and then the Wars were over and then records cease to mention skirmishes and wars by races not yet fully cleansed or by surviving militant preservers.

It's like everything stopped with Rajaat's imprisonment.

It screams of secrets and unknown events. I.e. fun.

I was thinking they could have survived like the Sith- one master, 1 apprentice or failing that a very small number of them. They don't oppose the Sorcerer Kings as such as that would expose them or perhaps they morphed into the Veiled Alliance.
#7
mgdathlete
Feb 18, 2008 0:03:45 I like to think that the Veiled Alliance kind of sprang from the Wind Mages. They were getting beat on every front, possibly including Bodach (I know, neutral). That and seeing the Druids being eradicated, made them change tactics. That goes into a whole subplot I had about Warlord Irikos being the Lord Warrior.
#8
ruhl-than_sage
Feb 18, 2008 13:17:52
I like to think that the Veiled Alliance kind of sprang from the Wind Mages. They were getting beat on every front, possibly including Bodach (I know, neutral). That and seeing the Druids being eradicated, made them change tactics. That goes into a whole subplot I had about Warlord Irikos being the Lord Warrior.

Yah, I have to agree with that.

You could definately have a wind mage or two survive through, timetravel, stasis, or some form of immortality. Hell they could be hanging out in another part of the world still building up their strength to challenge the Dragon/Sorcerer-Kings not realizing he and most of them are already dead.
#9
cnahumck
Feb 18, 2008 13:33:49 You know I love the past, what with my whole Cleansing War research I have been doing. Count me in.
#10
pavek
Feb 18, 2008 14:55:11 You could do a whole "Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade" type adventure. Instead of the Holy Grail there could be a lone ancient wind mage protecting the others who are in stasis, or lost artifacts, knowledge, whatever. Maybe even trying to find them before a SKs or some other defilers agents. Might be a neat hook for the FFN and Egendo or Dote Mal Payne. I'm thinking the ruin of Magehome would be well suited and difficult to reach. I like Zardnaars idea of 1 Wind Mage and one apprentice. Maybe the ancient Wind Mage is ready to pass on/die (or maybe he feels it's time for a Green Age artifact to come into play for some reason) and he sends out a summons to a student of his to take his place. The defiler agents of *insert here* learn of the meeting........Maybe Oronis heard rumors of the society and sends a party to learn the truth. That's just what popped into my head when I read this. Maybe because I just watched the trailer for the latest film. Sorry about the rambling, it's coming out as I type.
#11
cnahumck
Feb 18, 2008 17:00:53 I am working on something for Egendo and DMP that is different from the Wind Mages. Whether or not it ever gets published as official remains to be seen.

but there are plenty of things that can be included as part of the Wind Mages and their actions/motives. Remember, they were one response to the Jihad, one of many.
#12
Pennarin
Feb 18, 2008 17:32:23 My idea is as follows:

In a Wind Mage fortress far to the North, in the large region above Draj, many of the surviving leaders congregate before or after the end of the Cleansing Wars and have one of those meetings that changes events for the whole of the known world. Think of the meeting the Champions have, discussing Rajaat's imprisonment, in Rise and Fall.

The leaders decide they must lay low for centuries to better start the revolt later on. They make sure agents will continue to maintain the cause in the outside world, but the leaders themselves use gems invented by one of their beloved leader - Amara - and store themselves (body and soul) in them.

These gems are passed on, hidden, some eventually lost, a few destroyed or otherwise drained. Until today.

Hopefuly some of you remember reading one of the DS short stories found in one of the adventures, about a thief who finds gems of incredible worth and becomes embroided in a templar plot to use a device to empty the gems and fill them with sleeper myrmeleon agents so as to gain control of the VA. The gems are thought by the templars to contain great wizards of ages past....

It fits beautifully. Each one of these gems contains someone who can become a charismatic leader, and reunited as a group they can become a force to be reckoned with. They know many secrets from the past, hidden knowledge, and have access to lost caches of equipment and resources.

The descendants of the agents left behind by them so long ago may have formed their own secret society that inflitrated the VA once that society started existing, a society-within-a-society, communicating to their replacements their secret tradition - knowing about the gems' existence, protecting them, and taking the responsibility of bringing back the people inside the gems if the world seems ready for them.

This can make a great and long campaign, as grandiose as the search for the Drak Lens.
#13
Zardnaar
Feb 18, 2008 22:16:58
My idea is as follows:

In a Wind Mage fortress far to the North, in the large region above Draj, many of the surviving leaders congregate before or after the end of the Cleansing Wars and have one of those meetings that changes events for the whole of the known world. Think of the meeting the Champions have, discussing Rajaat's imprisonment, in Rise and Fall.

The leaders decide they must lay low for centuries to better start the revolt later on. They make sure agents will continue to maintain the cause in the outside world, but the leaders themselves use gems invented by one of their beloved leader - Amara - and store themselves (body and soul) in them.

These gems are passed on, hidden, some eventually lost, a few destroyed or otherwise drained. Until today.

Hopefuly some of you remember reading one of the DS short stories found in one of the adventures, about a thief who finds gems of incredible worth and becomes embroided in a templar plot to use a device to empty the gems and fill them with sleeper myrmeleon agents so as to gain control of the VA. The gems are thought by the templars to contain great wizards of ages past....

It fits beautifully. Each one of these gems contains someone who can become a charismatic leader, and reunited as a group they can become a force to be reckoned with. They know many secrets from the past, hidden knowledge, and have access to lost caches of equipment and resources.

The descendants of the agents left behind by them so long ago may have formed their own secret society that inflitrated the VA once that society started existing, a society-within-a-society, communicating to their replacements their secret tradition - knowing about the gems' existence, protecting them, and taking the responsibility of bringing back the people inside the gems if the world seems ready for them.

This can make a great and long campaign, as grandiose as the search for the Drak Lens.

This isn't a bad idea. Might have to stael portions of it. My idea for the Wind Mages is that they would be vey practical and have abandoned the war vs the Sorcerer Kings as survival is paramont. If any srvive (apart from stasis or undeath) my view would be they aren't a proper organization anymore but have been reduced to 2 a'la the Sith or small habdful and maybe no more than a dozen.

Magehome would be a good location and perhaps they have a hidden library or some repository of ancient knowledge. Perhaps the SKs weren't the only one who ransacked the libraries of the Green Age and the surviving wind mages focused on hiding away knowledge to prevent it being destroyed.
#14
ruhl-than_sage
Feb 22, 2008 0:01:08 It could have been a Wind Mage that turned Keltis around and helped him cast off his defiling ways to become an Avangion. That way Oronis could actually be the apprentice Wind Mage ;)

Along those same lines, perhaps the Avangion that the Thor-Kreen revere could have been one of the last Wind Mages too.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 Pennarin Feb 16, 2008 15:46:05	Ok, I miss summer. Moving on :D I'd like to know people's opinions on seeing a revival of the Wind Mages movement, and by that I don't necessarily mean modern day preservers starting up that revival (since they probably wouldn't have a clue, or the ressources) but rather a few old time members of the Mages being brough back to life, or out of stasis, or [insert here other plot device], and they try to revive the struggle between preserving and defiling. (Check out the Athasian Emporium, the magic items called gems of Amara (Amara being a former leader of the Mages) which would be perfect for storing the essence of the great leaders of ages past....)
#2 adidamps2 Feb 16, 2008 21:34:37	what's a Wind Mage?
#3 Pennarin Feb 17, 2008 8:10:48	Terrorist organization composed of preservers working to oppose the rise of the defiler warlords (Preserver Jihad) and afterwards the Champions (Cleansing Wars). Best known today for creating the Psionatrix. See the first page of the hand-drawn booklet in Dragon's Crown, they're mentionned there.
#4 Zardnaar Feb 17, 2008 12:12:24	I was thinking of this the other day. A handful (1-6) have survived and they have a remote ruin stocked with various material from over the ages. Main goal is survival. Does it ever state that they get totally wiped out?
#5 Pennarin Feb 17, 2008 14:25:56	It doesn't mention an end to the hostilities, per say, just that eventually the Jihad turned into the Cleansing Wars, and then the Wars were over and then records cease to mention skirmishes and wars by races not yet fully cleansed or by surviving militant preservers. It's like everything stopped with Rajaat's imprisonment. It screams of secrets and unknown events. I.e. fun.
#6 Zardnaar Feb 17, 2008 21:59:47	It doesn't mention an end to the hostilities, per say, just that eventually the Jihad turned into the Cleansing Wars, and then the Wars were over and then records cease to mention skirmishes and wars by races not yet fully cleansed or by surviving militant preservers. It's like everything stopped with Rajaat's imprisonment. It screams of secrets and unknown events. I.e. fun. I was thinking they could have survived like the Sith- one master, 1 apprentice or failing that a very small number of them. They don't oppose the Sorcerer Kings as such as that would expose them or perhaps they morphed into the Veiled Alliance.
#7 mgdathlete Feb 18, 2008 0:03:45	I like to think that the Veiled Alliance kind of sprang from the Wind Mages. They were getting beat on every front, possibly including Bodach (I know, neutral). That and seeing the Druids being eradicated, made them change tactics. That goes into a whole subplot I had about Warlord Irikos being the Lord Warrior.
#8 ruhl-than_sage Feb 18, 2008 13:17:52	I like to think that the Veiled Alliance kind of sprang from the Wind Mages. They were getting beat on every front, possibly including Bodach (I know, neutral). That and seeing the Druids being eradicated, made them change tactics. That goes into a whole subplot I had about Warlord Irikos being the Lord Warrior. Yah, I have to agree with that. You could definately have a wind mage or two survive through, timetravel, stasis, or some form of immortality. Hell they could be hanging out in another part of the world still building up their strength to challenge the Dragon/Sorcerer-Kings not realizing he and most of them are already dead.
#9 cnahumck Feb 18, 2008 13:33:49	You know I love the past, what with my whole Cleansing War research I have been doing. Count me in.
#10 pavek Feb 18, 2008 14:55:11	You could do a whole "Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade" type adventure. Instead of the Holy Grail there could be a lone ancient wind mage protecting the others who are in stasis, or lost artifacts, knowledge, whatever. Maybe even trying to find them before a SKs or some other defilers agents. Might be a neat hook for the FFN and Egendo or Dote Mal Payne. I'm thinking the ruin of Magehome would be well suited and difficult to reach. I like Zardnaars idea of 1 Wind Mage and one apprentice. Maybe the ancient Wind Mage is ready to pass on/die (or maybe he feels it's time for a Green Age artifact to come into play for some reason) and he sends out a summons to a student of his to take his place. The defiler agents of insert here learn of the meeting........Maybe Oronis heard rumors of the society and sends a party to learn the truth. That's just what popped into my head when I read this. Maybe because I just watched the trailer for the latest film. Sorry about the rambling, it's coming out as I type.
#11 cnahumck Feb 18, 2008 17:00:53	I am working on something for Egendo and DMP that is different from the Wind Mages. Whether or not it ever gets published as official remains to be seen. but there are plenty of things that can be included as part of the Wind Mages and their actions/motives. Remember, they were one response to the Jihad, one of many.
#12 Pennarin Feb 18, 2008 17:32:23	My idea is as follows: In a Wind Mage fortress far to the North, in the large region above Draj, many of the surviving leaders congregate before or after the end of the Cleansing Wars and have one of those meetings that changes events for the whole of the known world. Think of the meeting the Champions have, discussing Rajaat's imprisonment, in Rise and Fall. The leaders decide they must lay low for centuries to better start the revolt later on. They make sure agents will continue to maintain the cause in the outside world, but the leaders themselves use gems invented by one of their beloved leader - Amara - and store themselves (body and soul) in them. These gems are passed on, hidden, some eventually lost, a few destroyed or otherwise drained. Until today. Hopefuly some of you remember reading one of the DS short stories found in one of the adventures, about a thief who finds gems of incredible worth and becomes embroided in a templar plot to use a device to empty the gems and fill them with sleeper myrmeleon agents so as to gain control of the VA. The gems are thought by the templars to contain great wizards of ages past.... It fits beautifully. Each one of these gems contains someone who can become a charismatic leader, and reunited as a group they can become a force to be reckoned with. They know many secrets from the past, hidden knowledge, and have access to lost caches of equipment and resources. The descendants of the agents left behind by them so long ago may have formed their own secret society that inflitrated the VA once that society started existing, a society-within-a-society, communicating to their replacements their secret tradition - knowing about the gems' existence, protecting them, and taking the responsibility of bringing back the people inside the gems if the world seems ready for them. This can make a great and long campaign, as grandiose as the search for the Drak Lens.
#13 Zardnaar Feb 18, 2008 22:16:58	My idea is as follows: In a Wind Mage fortress far to the North, in the large region above Draj, many of the surviving leaders congregate before or after the end of the Cleansing Wars and have one of those meetings that changes events for the whole of the known world. Think of the meeting the Champions have, discussing Rajaat's imprisonment, in Rise and Fall. The leaders decide they must lay low for centuries to better start the revolt later on. They make sure agents will continue to maintain the cause in the outside world, but the leaders themselves use gems invented by one of their beloved leader - Amara - and store themselves (body and soul) in them. These gems are passed on, hidden, some eventually lost, a few destroyed or otherwise drained. Until today. Hopefuly some of you remember reading one of the DS short stories found in one of the adventures, about a thief who finds gems of incredible worth and becomes embroided in a templar plot to use a device to empty the gems and fill them with sleeper myrmeleon agents so as to gain control of the VA. The gems are thought by the templars to contain great wizards of ages past.... It fits beautifully. Each one of these gems contains someone who can become a charismatic leader, and reunited as a group they can become a force to be reckoned with. They know many secrets from the past, hidden knowledge, and have access to lost caches of equipment and resources. The descendants of the agents left behind by them so long ago may have formed their own secret society that inflitrated the VA once that society started existing, a society-within-a-society, communicating to their replacements their secret tradition - knowing about the gems' existence, protecting them, and taking the responsibility of bringing back the people inside the gems if the world seems ready for them. This can make a great and long campaign, as grandiose as the search for the Drak Lens. This isn't a bad idea. Might have to stael portions of it. My idea for the Wind Mages is that they would be vey practical and have abandoned the war vs the Sorcerer Kings as survival is paramont. If any srvive (apart from stasis or undeath) my view would be they aren't a proper organization anymore but have been reduced to 2 a'la the Sith or small habdful and maybe no more than a dozen. Magehome would be a good location and perhaps they have a hidden library or some repository of ancient knowledge. Perhaps the SKs weren't the only one who ransacked the libraries of the Green Age and the surviving wind mages focused on hiding away knowledge to prevent it being destroyed.
#14 ruhl-than_sage Feb 22, 2008 0:01:08	It could have been a Wind Mage that turned Keltis around and helped him cast off his defiling ways to become an Avangion. That way Oronis could actually be the apprentice Wind Mage ;) Along those same lines, perhaps the Avangion that the Thor-Kreen revere could have been one of the last Wind Mages too.