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#1
androkguz
Apr 15, 2008 22:47:43 Lets face it, 4e will eventually give us a new setting.

I'm curious, what would you like to have in a new D&D setting?
#2
sigil_beguiler
Apr 16, 2008 3:39:05 Well... There is; What I Expect to Happen and What I Would Like to Happen.

What I Expect to Happen:

-A much more fleshed out and detailed vision of PoL.
-There will be more racial variants on PHB races.
-PoL specific monsters, feats, etc.
-There will be PoL specific Dominions.
-Specific important NPCs.
-PoL specific class.
-Specific PoL fluff/crunch dealing with the Feywild and Shadowfell.

What I Would Like to Happen:

-Have a setting oriented towards technology.
-Have it be a historical-sectioned setting to allow for various stages of technology.
-Introduce slightly sci-fish elements, such as gods being automatons of some unknown force, artificial worlds, etc.
-Have it be low-magic and what magic there is, isn't trusted.
#3
webrunner
Apr 17, 2008 16:00:49 I would really like to see a few one-off books of some of the more interesting settings from MtG. Particularly Ravnica.. it really struck a chord with me as a great world to set things in, and deserves more than a few boxes of cards and couple of novels.

Of course, Ravnica is pretty much the exact OPPOSITE of points-of-light, being that it's one gigantic city in which any wilderness is due to mold, erosion, and such of weaker parts of the city, but still.. I'd really like to see a campaign book based on it.
#4
sigil_beguiler
Apr 17, 2008 16:17:17 I haven't seen that setting before, so wouldn't know... But, how spread out/strong are the forces of good/light in that setting?

If most of the city has fallen into disrepair and criminals, and monster roam much of the city then it would certainly count as PoL.
#5
webrunner
Apr 18, 2008 10:51:31
I haven't seen that setting before, so wouldn't know... But, how spread out/strong are the forces of good/light in that setting?

If most of the city has fallen into disrepair and criminals, and monster roam much of the city then it would certainly count as PoL.

Well, the thing about Ravnica is that "Good" and "Evil" both need to exist in order for society to function.. nobody is allowed to get powerful enough to threaten society (except in a few cases) but in general everyone's relying on everyone else. It's enforced a magical "pact" called the Guildpact.

The city is divided into Guilds, each one takes over some aspect of ruling the city- the Izzet league, which are explosions-and-alchemy type mages that perform crazy experiments because they want to discover stuff, runs and builds most of the public works. The "Evil" demon-worshipping Rakdos clan provides the best assassins and performs mining for the other guilds. There's even one guild- House Dimir, which exists soley to plot to overthrow the guildpact. The Guildpact cannot exist without this 'outside force' providing pressure, paradoxically.

There are dangerous things in the alleyways, but not any more than any D&D metropolis setting.

Imagine Sharn or the City of Brass.. only the entire planet.
#6
squidyak
Apr 18, 2008 15:50:52 DND classic.

Back to the look and feel of 1e/2e.
#7
the_ubbergeek
Apr 19, 2008 13:46:39 You can't always revisit the past... especially when things change.

Eberron was a nice start... perhaps a something like Exalted, sans the over-the-top, outrageous bits and lower powered? A mix of orient and occident...
#8
androkguz
Apr 19, 2008 16:13:26 I for one want a setting that has the guts to be different.

I want a setting where paladins work differently, where there are no dwarves, where mindflayers are ethereal and where the tone of core D&D is not the same. (just ideas) But that at the same time is D&D. Eberron did that for me in 3.5. I would have changed a little more the monsters like the rakshasa and couatl, and would have removed kobolds, not because I don't like them, but because that's having guts.

Perhaps an interesting take would be to have some other race other than the humans be the dominant race (I do this in my homebrew setting).

And a mix of orient an occident would be nice.
#9
androkguz
Apr 19, 2008 16:15:21
I would really like to see a few one-off books of some of the more interesting settings from MtG. Particularly Ravnica.. it really struck a chord with me as a great world to set things in, and deserves more than a few boxes of cards and couple of novels.

Of course, Ravnica is pretty much the exact OPPOSITE of points-of-light, being that it's one gigantic city in which any wilderness is due to mold, erosion, and such of weaker parts of the city, but still.. I'd really like to see a campaign book based on it.

Wow, cool planes are the ones that Magic gives us. Mirrodin and lorwyn would also be really cool. But Ravnica is the best. When 4th comes out, we could make the Ravnica campaing setting :D
#10
styphathal
Apr 20, 2008 0:22:06 I would like to see a all twilight/shadow world primal setting. Where all the races in the players handbook are refuges/travelers from other worlds. In this setting the P.O.L. would be literally points of light (light spells and oil lamps) where the humans/others use artifical light to grow crops, raise cattle, and build a village. They all teleported together in a mass caravan but it got divided in the dimensional travel. (thinking 10,000 of the mixed race refuges total. Then they split into 10 groups.) They escaped a world on the brink of a major cataclysm. I'm thinking a magic hurricane thats growing and literaly tearing the atmospher off the globe.

I don't know......... I'm american so thinking about all the old settlers of the new world and how they did it kinda baffels me. Combining the feeling of trying to make a new living in a even stranger world intriges me. Magic works diffrently here. All mages that didn't die trying to hold the portal open and keep the groups together had to relearn the craft. (for the new rules in 4e) Only a handful of the greater gods can even hear your prayers through the cosmos. (haven't decided on those yet.) Tech level of the settlers will be comparable to the city of Waterdeep.

The landscape will be overgrown forrests and massive canyons. Roads will have to be made. Rivers look like the easiest way to travel. All light spells and torches only provide half the usual visibility. All native animals either have low light vision or tremorsense. This new world is called Mahkah by it's peoples.. (The setting name is eluding me.)

Now to make up native races.......

All the races here will be nomatic/primal. Some may be friendly but most are not.

TECUMSEH: (Panther people) will be a home brew indigenous race. They will be avalible as a player character. This is the most civilized race of the setting. They have permenet villages and can metal work, but they mostly live of the land.

WAYRA: (Wild Gnomes) will be indigenous. I will have to look at the MM entry to modify them but if all I have to do is give them low light visioin they will be a straight conversion. Also (with careful roleplay) avalible as a player charcters.

Old powers rule the wilds of this new place and do not like to be disturbed.

So........do you think this could work? or :thumbsdow
#11
androkguz
Apr 21, 2008 17:17:31
So........do you think this could work? or :thumbsdow

I would like to play there. But to have WotC's limited attention focused on that setting... I don't know... it sounds too much like Dark Sun.

In any case, I think that D&D might even do good having Lorwyn-like setting. Something for the dysney fans to realice they like D&D.
#12
xmen510
Apr 21, 2008 20:34:25 I would like to see an early Japan type of setting or Dark Ages/Medieval Earth setting, adding in Magic and such. That would be nice.
#13
elondir
Apr 28, 2008 12:21:57 This would never happen in a million years, but I would love to see a totally high fantasy campaign setting where:
Roger Dean draws the landscapes,
H.R. Geiger and Wayne Barlowe populate them,
Brom provides the look and feel of the PC races,
Indigenous flora and fauna are created by Jim Henson's Workshop,
Throw in the settings for "Taarna" and "Den" from the movie Heavy Metal (including the weird technology left to rust for 20,000 years), and
Stick the whole thing on the inside of a Dyson Sphere, with the technology completely lost a few ten thousand generations ago. That scale gives room for all kinds of campaigns.
Include all terrain types, both real-world and wildly fantastic.
#14
Dreamstryder
May 07, 2008 22:26:06 Hm, would like to see a new Japanese culture setting, and a science-fantasy setting (a la FFXII or Phantasy Star). The Hordes of Evil (TM) were long 'go tired, and old Europe's marvel sapped; give me then tales of myst'ry, set 'pon forbidden maps! Just not more "let's dress in medieval European garb and rage against objective morality!" Too much of that in and out of D&D already.

Gothic horror in a period setting (gaslight European or Meiji/pre-Meiji Japan) would also be cool. You could mix East & West there, too.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 androkguz Apr 15, 2008 22:47:43	Lets face it, 4e will eventually give us a new setting. I'm curious, what would you like to have in a new D&D setting?
#2 sigil_beguiler Apr 16, 2008 3:39:05	Well... There is; What I Expect to Happen and What I Would Like to Happen. What I Expect to Happen: -A much more fleshed out and detailed vision of PoL. -There will be more racial variants on PHB races. -PoL specific monsters, feats, etc. -There will be PoL specific Dominions. -Specific important NPCs. -PoL specific class. -Specific PoL fluff/crunch dealing with the Feywild and Shadowfell. What I Would Like to Happen: -Have a setting oriented towards technology. -Have it be a historical-sectioned setting to allow for various stages of technology. -Introduce slightly sci-fish elements, such as gods being automatons of some unknown force, artificial worlds, etc. -Have it be low-magic and what magic there is, isn't trusted.
#3 webrunner Apr 17, 2008 16:00:49	I would really like to see a few one-off books of some of the more interesting settings from MtG. Particularly Ravnica.. it really struck a chord with me as a great world to set things in, and deserves more than a few boxes of cards and couple of novels. Of course, Ravnica is pretty much the exact OPPOSITE of points-of-light, being that it's one gigantic city in which any wilderness is due to mold, erosion, and such of weaker parts of the city, but still.. I'd really like to see a campaign book based on it.
#4 sigil_beguiler Apr 17, 2008 16:17:17	I haven't seen that setting before, so wouldn't know... But, how spread out/strong are the forces of good/light in that setting? If most of the city has fallen into disrepair and criminals, and monster roam much of the city then it would certainly count as PoL.
#5 webrunner Apr 18, 2008 10:51:31	I haven't seen that setting before, so wouldn't know... But, how spread out/strong are the forces of good/light in that setting? If most of the city has fallen into disrepair and criminals, and monster roam much of the city then it would certainly count as PoL. Well, the thing about Ravnica is that "Good" and "Evil" both need to exist in order for society to function.. nobody is allowed to get powerful enough to threaten society (except in a few cases) but in general everyone's relying on everyone else. It's enforced a magical "pact" called the Guildpact. The city is divided into Guilds, each one takes over some aspect of ruling the city- the Izzet league, which are explosions-and-alchemy type mages that perform crazy experiments because they want to discover stuff, runs and builds most of the public works. The "Evil" demon-worshipping Rakdos clan provides the best assassins and performs mining for the other guilds. There's even one guild- House Dimir, which exists soley to plot to overthrow the guildpact. The Guildpact cannot exist without this 'outside force' providing pressure, paradoxically. There are dangerous things in the alleyways, but not any more than any D&D metropolis setting. Imagine Sharn or the City of Brass.. only the entire planet.
#6 squidyak Apr 18, 2008 15:50:52	DND classic. Back to the look and feel of 1e/2e.
#7 the_ubbergeek Apr 19, 2008 13:46:39	You can't always revisit the past... especially when things change. Eberron was a nice start... perhaps a something like Exalted, sans the over-the-top, outrageous bits and lower powered? A mix of orient and occident...
#8 androkguz Apr 19, 2008 16:13:26	I for one want a setting that has the guts to be different. I want a setting where paladins work differently, where there are no dwarves, where mindflayers are ethereal and where the tone of core D&D is not the same. (just ideas) But that at the same time is D&D. Eberron did that for me in 3.5. I would have changed a little more the monsters like the rakshasa and couatl, and would have removed kobolds, not because I don't like them, but because that's having guts. Perhaps an interesting take would be to have some other race other than the humans be the dominant race (I do this in my homebrew setting). And a mix of orient an occident would be nice.
#9 androkguz Apr 19, 2008 16:15:21	I would really like to see a few one-off books of some of the more interesting settings from MtG. Particularly Ravnica.. it really struck a chord with me as a great world to set things in, and deserves more than a few boxes of cards and couple of novels. Of course, Ravnica is pretty much the exact OPPOSITE of points-of-light, being that it's one gigantic city in which any wilderness is due to mold, erosion, and such of weaker parts of the city, but still.. I'd really like to see a campaign book based on it. Wow, cool planes are the ones that Magic gives us. Mirrodin and lorwyn would also be really cool. But Ravnica is the best. When 4th comes out, we could make the Ravnica campaing setting :D
#10 styphathal Apr 20, 2008 0:22:06	I would like to see a all twilight/shadow world primal setting. Where all the races in the players handbook are refuges/travelers from other worlds. In this setting the P.O.L. would be literally points of light (light spells and oil lamps) where the humans/others use artifical light to grow crops, raise cattle, and build a village. They all teleported together in a mass caravan but it got divided in the dimensional travel. (thinking 10,000 of the mixed race refuges total. Then they split into 10 groups.) They escaped a world on the brink of a major cataclysm. I'm thinking a magic hurricane thats growing and literaly tearing the atmospher off the globe. I don't know......... I'm american so thinking about all the old settlers of the new world and how they did it kinda baffels me. Combining the feeling of trying to make a new living in a even stranger world intriges me. Magic works diffrently here. All mages that didn't die trying to hold the portal open and keep the groups together had to relearn the craft. (for the new rules in 4e) Only a handful of the greater gods can even hear your prayers through the cosmos. (haven't decided on those yet.) Tech level of the settlers will be comparable to the city of Waterdeep. The landscape will be overgrown forrests and massive canyons. Roads will have to be made. Rivers look like the easiest way to travel. All light spells and torches only provide half the usual visibility. All native animals either have low light vision or tremorsense. This new world is called Mahkah by it's peoples.. (The setting name is eluding me.) Now to make up native races....... All the races here will be nomatic/primal. Some may be friendly but most are not. TECUMSEH: (Panther people) will be a home brew indigenous race. They will be avalible as a player character. This is the most civilized race of the setting. They have permenet villages and can metal work, but they mostly live of the land. WAYRA: (Wild Gnomes) will be indigenous. I will have to look at the MM entry to modify them but if all I have to do is give them low light visioin they will be a straight conversion. Also (with careful roleplay) avalible as a player charcters. Old powers rule the wilds of this new place and do not like to be disturbed. So........do you think this could work? or :thumbsdow
#11 androkguz Apr 21, 2008 17:17:31	So........do you think this could work? or :thumbsdow I would like to play there. But to have WotC's limited attention focused on that setting... I don't know... it sounds too much like Dark Sun. In any case, I think that D&D might even do good having Lorwyn-like setting. Something for the dysney fans to realice they like D&D.
#12 xmen510 Apr 21, 2008 20:34:25	I would like to see an early Japan type of setting or Dark Ages/Medieval Earth setting, adding in Magic and such. That would be nice.
#13 elondir Apr 28, 2008 12:21:57	This would never happen in a million years, but I would love to see a totally high fantasy campaign setting where: Roger Dean draws the landscapes, H.R. Geiger and Wayne Barlowe populate them, Brom provides the look and feel of the PC races, Indigenous flora and fauna are created by Jim Henson's Workshop, Throw in the settings for "Taarna" and "Den" from the movie Heavy Metal (including the weird technology left to rust for 20,000 years), and Stick the whole thing on the inside of a Dyson Sphere, with the technology completely lost a few ten thousand generations ago. That scale gives room for all kinds of campaigns. Include all terrain types, both real-world and wildly fantastic.
#14 Dreamstryder May 07, 2008 22:26:06	Hm, would like to see a new Japanese culture setting, and a science-fantasy setting (a la FFXII or Phantasy Star). The Hordes of Evil (TM) were long 'go tired, and old Europe's marvel sapped; give me then tales of myst'ry, set 'pon forbidden maps! Just not more "let's dress in medieval European garb and rage against objective morality!" Too much of that in and out of D&D already. Gothic horror in a period setting (gaslight European or Meiji/pre-Meiji Japan) would also be cool. You could mix East & West there, too.