To all you young designers who are clueless and watching (doubtful because we are now "Other" at the bottom of "Previous Editions")... leave WotC now with your integrity intact, obviously they will make you choose at one time between the current money maker and what you love the most...and call you "Other" like they have so quickly done to us...
"I hope your kid that I paid to educate finds McDonald's fry station as his/her next job!"
... is just being childish. You didn't "fund" WotC anymore than you fund your power company when you turn on a light. They don't owe you anything. You are not their patron saint that they must bow to and worship. You seem to harbor this strange delusion that every Hasbro employee is a multimillionaire playboy who relaxes everyday in a hot bath filled with the tears of gamers while half-naked supermodels massage them with wads of cash, giggling with sadistic glee at the foolish customers they swindle. It may surprise you to learn that they are not in fact devil-spawned abominations who pay tribute to the infernal LE god Profit. They're people, who, like you and me, need to make a living. I don't think that anyone will deny that they want to make money. But the implication that WotC is a soulless scourge that loves nothing but the smooth caress of cold, hard cash is getting tiresome.
Also, you don't HAVE to play D&D if WotC's business practices disgust you that much. There are thousands of other games out there. Scott Rouse is not going to don his crime-fighting leather garb, HALO jump through your roof, and roundhouse kick you in the face if you start playing Savage Worlds.
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From the name, I can hazard a guess, but ...
I strongly urge everyone to visit the other communities for their favored settings and boycott this setting dumpster.
A few of the other worlds folders were fairly well trafficked, and dont deserve to be combined. Futhermore, no input was sought from those of us who actually use the forums.
I call on everyone here to quit posting until things are restored to their former, completely adequate, state.
This dumping of all the worlds (except FR and Eberron) into one forum is unacceptable.
I strongly urge everyone to visit the other communities for their favored settings and boycott this setting dumpster.
A few of the other worlds folders were fairly well trafficked, and dont deserve to be combined. Futhermore, no input was sought from those of us who actually use the forums.
I call on everyone here to quit posting until things are restored to their former, completely adequate, state.
There's still the "Other roleplaying worlds" board. It's right below this one. Maybe Wizards didn't think that it was necessary to include settings that don't have plans for publication on a "Published Worlds" board.
There's still the "Other roleplaying worlds" board. It's right below this one. Maybe Wizards didn't think that it was necessary to include settings that don't have plans for publication on a "Published Worlds" board.
This is my thought. If they don't select which settings get their own subforum by their offically announced plans to publish, then they're left selecting settings based on ... ? Someone is going to get left out. Are Greyhawk and Dragonlance truly more important than Black Sun, Spelljammer, Mystara, and other settings? What about to the person that likes Spelljammer better?
So long as they're dividing up the settings that get subforums and those that don't by their officially announced plans to publish, I'm fine with it. On the other hand, Forgotten Realms has a huge amount of forum real estate already...
It was a DUMB move, and that is not really debatable. One can debate how dumb, but dumb it was.
ROB
I was lost for maybe 30 secondes ... Concentrated and found what is was looking for. I'm always amazed that people rave and rant at perfectly legitimate business decisions WOC makes. It IS a company. Last time I check these forums and the D20 are FREE... So you are actually getting something without dishing out any cash. Not so long ago this was completely impossible. The only interaction you could have was to send a letter to Dragon magazine... ubberfun that was !!!
In case you are wondering I was introduced to D&D basic set in 1981. Became a DM, got hooked and never looked back. Each edition since then have their faults but all in all their qualities outshined them. 4e promises to be very different and I'm happy with that.
I don't see why each of Wizard's (currently languishing) settings can't have their own subforum in "Other Settings". At the very least I felt that the GH and DL boards saw enough traffic to justify their own boards. As Rob points out, throwing everything into a single vat just turns it into a hodge-podge of unrelated threads and makes it appear like WotC's scrap yard.
:hoppingmaEberron and FR got forums because they will be the first two settings that get published under 4e. Because of the minimalist approach they each only got one forum where they originally had six each.
If more settings get updated with 4e rules, then they will probably get forums as well, but they are not looking to make a forum for a setting that will be coming out in two years.
The choice was to either combine them in the 4e forums or merge them all in the campaign, adventures, and encounters workshop in the previous edition forums with members homebrewed settings and such.
Now they are using a general rule of thumb of less than 50 active posts in a 24 hour period is acceptable and if a forum produces more than that each day then there may be need to split it into two forums. This will probably not happen immediately as they are busy with the reorg, but some time after the reorg they may be willing to reevaluate the busy and crowded forums.
Direct links to threads and post should still work as their id number was not changed. I do not know how the reorganization has affected the Archives.
I can comfirm that the Dark Sun Forum Archives are still accessible, that the links contained therin work, but the thread's status is closed. However, it can still be edited.
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-It saves WotC bandwith, by lumping everything under one "roof", which ultimatley costs money. The reorganization of things were happening regardless, due to the looming giant of 4e, and the incorporation of Gleemax to these forums.
Did we not already discuss this on another thread about the fact that it does not save any bandwith?
Who are you anyways? The Wotc cheerleader? Seriously...
And 4e will not be a giant...mark my words. I for one will NOT buy any of the books.
I've been through all of the editions, and 3.5 is probably gonna be my last. As long as I can find other people playing/DMing 3.5 or older versions, I will not buy. I am game testing a free 4e game right now as a player, and I've viewed all the free rules I can find on the internet and I'm not impressed in any way.-They are, though. Excluding Dragonlance and Ravenloft, that had that "one-shot" thing going, and Grayhawk, that had that "close, but no cigar" thing going, how many of these settings has WotC published? None. They are legacy TSR products that WotC chose not to update.
That is incorrect.
Ravenloft got Expedition to Castle Ravenloft.
Greyhawk got the D&D Gazetteer, Living Greyhawk Gazetteer, Living Greyhawk Journal Magazine, regular coverage in Dragon and Dungeon magazines, Expedition to the Ruins of Greyhawk, etc and was the default "core" world for D&D3.0/3.5
Spelljammer got updated in Dungeon/Polyhedron Magazine.
Mystara got sporadic treatment in Dragon magazine.
Apparently, it also saves Customer Service small amounts of valuable labor costs in having to monitor multiple forums with little traffic.
If you're suggesting that CS or CM actively monitor any of the forums, especially the other worlds area, you need to wake up. Threads that don't get reported never get looked at.
That is incorrect.
-Did you not read what I wrote? Excluding Dragonlance and Ravenloft, that had that "one-shot" thing going, and Grayhawk, that had that "close, but no cigar" thing going, how many of these settings has WotC published? None. They are legacy TSR products that WotC chose not to update.