the merging of worlds here has really started some talk over at DF as too what the commuity there wants too do. however it appears what ever happens it musty remain either pre-3e or edition neutral in material talk.
WotC kills Other Worlds forums
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new forum discussion
however this appears to be the stipulation most there are looking at right now.
Egg of Coot wrote:
If I had the time and money, I'd start a new Worlds of Dungeons & Dragons website complete with its own forums. However, the Dragonlance Nexus and my other projects keep me busy enough.
The idea is there, at least. Anyone want to run with it?
EDIT: Actually, I may have an idea on how to make this work...
i can't talk officially for the fine people on DF, especially since i am a newbie of the website myself, but i think i will summarize the feelings of the majority of existing users if i ask you to pay special attention to this:
however it appears what ever happens it must remain either pre-3e or edition neutral in material talk.
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so nothing is written in stone, but it appears DF is willig to help be a hub for most as long as it stays system neutral!
for those that can't read plain english, i'll try to explain it even more plainly:
if you sign up to DF to try to convince people that 3e is the best system ever, please stay home.
if you can't comment on an adventure or campaign idea without tossing in 3e rules all over the place, please stay home.
if you think anyone over there is interested in you crazy character combo, that is your divine right to play because someone put rule X in 3e book Y, please stay home.
i think that will do.
some people have called the posters at DF 1e bigots. some of them might be, but they are actually nice people, that have learnt to be VERY protective of their favourite system after verbal abuses from players of "superior" systems...
That sounds good, though I do worry about those who want to discuss Dark Sun, Spelljammer, etc. 4e conversions, or continued support for 3e. Where do those people go?
not to Dragonsfoot.
sorry. Wizards should take responsability for treating their fanbase like disposable fools.
not to Dragonsfoot.
sorry. Wizards should take responsability for treating their fanbase like disposable fools.
Therein lies the dilemma. Fans of the various settings who want to talk about their favorite settings with 3e, 4e, or 3rd party rules systems. Where does one go to talk about Dark Sun using Pathfinder rules? Where can a person go to talk about running Mystara with GURPS rules?
What I have in mind is a network of sorts. A forum dedicated to old TSR settings (yes, including Star Frontiers and the like) that is open to all editions and has links to all the fan sites.
So what would the interest be in a site like this? Is it worth it?
spell here.
thanks for the clairification there...LOL
either play nice or go home...
but really the community over there seems to really want to help!
so long as it remains system neutral!:fight!: and they are even prepared for an invasion: :pile:
remain either pre-3e or edition neutral
Just my opinion here, but I think that for the vast majority of us--many of whom never even moved to 3e in the first place, this restriction should be a deal-killer. Regardless of the setting you use, how much creative thought and community involvement would be lost if say, for example, Jamie Baty wasn't allowed to convert 500+ classic D&D monsters that never appeared anywhere else to 3rd edition? How many years of work did it take for Marco Dalmonte to create and translate his Immortal's Compendium?
Sure, DF is a great resource, which I've use countless times--and I'd love to be a part of their larger community--but not at the expense of versatility.
Again, as I've stated elsewhere--we should go on as normal, except tag our
posts with the apropriate settings...
Failing that, if we MUST go somewhere... I suggest that we add a phpBB or YaBB to Angelo's mystara.us domain. (Yes, the Vaults would be the best place for it, but as has been repeatedly said, the community agreement forbids it, and I'm not going to speculate as to how or why some of the fansites have succeeded for so long, I just wouldn't want Shawn to risk losing his site.)
That's all I've got to say about that,
Roger
Therein lies the dilemma. Fans of the various settings who want to talk about their favorite settings with 3e, 4e, or 3rd party rules systems. Where does one go to talk about Dark Sun using Pathfinder rules? Where can a person go to talk about running Mystara with GURPS rules?
What I have in mind is a network of sorts. A forum dedicated to old TSR settings (yes, including Star Frontiers and the like) that is open to all editions and has links to all the fan sites.
So what would the interest be in a site like this? Is it worth it?
I think this sounds like a great idea.
However, there is nothing stopping people putting together their own D20 forum (I suspect quite a few of these will be emerging in the near future, maybe related to Paizo) and still participating in Dragonsfoot's TSR Worlds forums. In fact, that sort of decentralisation can even be quite useful, creating a better signal to noise ratio for everybody involved; and really, that is what this is all about in the first place.
Just my opinion here, but I think that for the vast majority of us--many of whom never even moved to 3e in the first place, this restriction should be a deal-killer. Regardless of the setting you use, how much creative thought and community involvement would be lost if say, for example, Jamie Baty wasn't allowed to convert 500+ classic D&D monsters that never appeared anywhere else to 3rd edition? How many years of work did it take for Marco Dalmonte to create and translate his Immortal's Compendium?
Sure, DF is a great resource, which I've use countless times--and I'd love to be a part of their larger community--but not at the expense of versatility.
Again, as I've stated elsewhere--we should go on as normal, except tag our
posts with the apropriate settings...
Failing that, if we MUST go somewhere... I suggest that we add a phpBB or YaBB to Angelo's mystara.us domain. (Yes, the Vaults would be the best place for it, but as has been repeatedly said, the community agreement forbids it, and I'm not going to speculate as to how or why some of the fansites have succeeded for so long, I just wouldn't want Shawn to risk losing his site.)
You are right. The Other Worlds need a place open to discussions of all editions. The fact that DF cannot offer us that should be respected. We should look elsewhere.
While there are definitive advantages of moving to the Vaults if possible, I can see a few disadvantages of it aswell. Perhaps we should let Shawn focus on what he does. mystara.us is a good suggestion (I just moved there myself).
I also find Dragonhelm's suggestion of a joint venture for all of the Worlds of TSR could be interesting. It might help ensure stability and interraction between the settings.
Havard
Another factor is that the more boards we have, the more spread out we become. So I really hope we don't get a whole lot of new boards opened up, because they will not help in the long run.
By that token, although I appreciate the sympathy from the Dragonsfoot community, I think we have to say a firm "no thank you" to a Mystara board there. We can't afford to have silly rules determining what we can and can't speak about, other than the simple guiding principle of posting "about Mystara". Anything else will just alienate people, and once again divide us up. (Edit: No disrespect meant to Dragonsfoot - the rules are silly for our community only, NOT for theirs.)
Clearly the Vaults are the absolute best place for the MMB. That may even be possible now that the MMB is no more; we'll have to wait for Shawn to chime in to find out.
But even if the Vaults are no good, we may still have the option of linking to the new MMB from the main page of the Vaults, which is the next best thing. If that is possible, then it's a simple matter of deciding where we're going to move to.
Finally, regarding where we do move to, my only request is that we keep the ownership of the new board within the community, under the supervision of ourselves, to avoid this sort of situation reoccurring in the future.