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#1
lugnut71
Jun 27, 2003 19:41:35 So now that we know about minotaurs I'm courious about gnomes. Actually kender more but both of these are a lot easier to figure out. I'm guessing you won't use the regular gnomes but make new ones who will be doing -2 wis. Then I wondered what would the plus be. I figured Int but then people will want to make wizard gnomes which goes against dragonlance setting.
#2
zombiegleemax
Jun 28, 2003 0:19:00 I'm interested in how the "Thinker Gnomes" will turn out for the new Dragonlance system and in post Soul War Krynn. In the Fifth Age this new group of Gnomes appeared, those who don't suffer from the chaotic curse of "Tinkering." Gnomes had a kinda of charm about them, but they were almost always the "comic relief" in DL. Maybe with the Thinker Gnomes that cliche' will change.

:D
#3
lugnut71
Jun 28, 2003 17:22:43 I always liked the idea of geniuses with no common sense though.
#4
zombiegleemax
Jun 28, 2003 17:50:33 Eh. Don't worry "Thinker" Gnomes are a small minority among Ansalon's resident gnome population. Their the exception rather then the rule. The vast majority of gnomes will be your "geniouses with no common sense" as you put it. Theres plenty of room and time for both. ;)
#5
lugnut71
Jun 28, 2003 23:19:29 I write fast and don't check my spelling.
#6
Dragonhelm
Jun 29, 2003 7:22:29
Originally posted by DaemonAngel
I'm interested in how the "Thinker Gnomes" will turn out for the new Dragonlance system and in post Soul War Krynn. In the Fifth Age this new group of Gnomes appeared, those who don't suffer from the chaotic curse of "Tinkering." Gnomes had a kinda of charm about them, but they were almost always the "comic relief" in DL. Maybe with the Thinker Gnomes that cliche' will change.

:D

Thinker Gnomes have been around for longer than what you may think. Granted, people say I'm quite mad...
#7
B-naa
Jun 29, 2003 8:58:39
Originally posted by Dragonhelm
Thinker Gnomes have been around for longer than what you may think. Granted, people say I'm quite mad...

:D

Very True

Mad Gnomes were always a pretty cool concept.
#8
ferratus
Jun 29, 2003 10:15:19 Yep, the ones who threw the entire machinery of gnomish society into chaos by creating things that worked.

There was also the gnomoi of Taladas, who were the original gnomes before being cursed by Reorx. The cursed gnomes were known as the "minoi". Basically the two gnomish subraces existed in harmony, with the "minoi" providing most of the revolutionary new ideas, and the "gnomoi" taking the ideas and cutting the "extra features".

Myself, I think you can be a Tinker Gnome and still be more than comic releif, you just have to give them the right abilities to be useful. I noticed for example the "Engineer" advanced class. It has an ability called "Tinker" which involves getting a device to work more powerfully for a few rounds, but then "burning out" requiring a repair. There is also a class ability known as "Integrate Tech" which involves making alien and human technology work together. That would be especially useful in a dragonlance setting if you called it "integrate magic". That would allow you to use magical items to power gnomish inventions.
#9
Dragonhelm
Jun 29, 2003 12:16:37
Originally posted by ferratus
There was also the gnomoi of Taladas, who were the original gnomes before being cursed by Reorx. The cursed gnomes were known as the "minoi". Basically the two gnomish subraces existed in harmony, with the "minoi" providing most of the revolutionary new ideas, and the "gnomoi" taking the ideas and cutting the "extra features".

DLA had the original Thinker Gnomes in the form of Mad Gnomes. IIRC, Mad Gnomes were considered to be gnomes who had "traveled from beyond" (meaning coming from another world).

As Terry points out above, they show up in the Time of the Dragon boxed set on the continent of Taladas as the gnomoi.

It wasn't until SAGA that the term "Thinker Gnome" came about (to my knowledge).

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 lugnut71 Jun 27, 2003 19:41:35	So now that we know about minotaurs I'm courious about gnomes. Actually kender more but both of these are a lot easier to figure out. I'm guessing you won't use the regular gnomes but make new ones who will be doing -2 wis. Then I wondered what would the plus be. I figured Int but then people will want to make wizard gnomes which goes against dragonlance setting.
#2 zombiegleemax Jun 28, 2003 0:19:00	I'm interested in how the "Thinker Gnomes" will turn out for the new Dragonlance system and in post Soul War Krynn. In the Fifth Age this new group of Gnomes appeared, those who don't suffer from the chaotic curse of "Tinkering." Gnomes had a kinda of charm about them, but they were almost always the "comic relief" in DL. Maybe with the Thinker Gnomes that cliche' will change. :D
#3 lugnut71 Jun 28, 2003 17:22:43	I always liked the idea of geniuses with no common sense though.
#4 zombiegleemax Jun 28, 2003 17:50:33	Eh. Don't worry "Thinker" Gnomes are a small minority among Ansalon's resident gnome population. Their the exception rather then the rule. The vast majority of gnomes will be your "geniouses with no common sense" as you put it. Theres plenty of room and time for both. ;)
#5 lugnut71 Jun 28, 2003 23:19:29	I write fast and don't check my spelling.
#6 Dragonhelm Jun 29, 2003 7:22:29	Originally posted by DaemonAngel I'm interested in how the "Thinker Gnomes" will turn out for the new Dragonlance system and in post Soul War Krynn. In the Fifth Age this new group of Gnomes appeared, those who don't suffer from the chaotic curse of "Tinkering." Gnomes had a kinda of charm about them, but they were almost always the "comic relief" in DL. Maybe with the Thinker Gnomes that cliche' will change. :D Thinker Gnomes have been around for longer than what you may think. Granted, people say I'm quite mad...
#7 B-naa Jun 29, 2003 8:58:39	Originally posted by Dragonhelm *Thinker Gnomes have been around for longer than what you may think. Granted, people say I'm quite mad...* :D Very True Mad Gnomes were always a pretty cool concept.
#8 ferratus Jun 29, 2003 10:15:19	Yep, the ones who threw the entire machinery of gnomish society into chaos by creating things that worked. There was also the gnomoi of Taladas, who were the original gnomes before being cursed by Reorx. The cursed gnomes were known as the "minoi". Basically the two gnomish subraces existed in harmony, with the "minoi" providing most of the revolutionary new ideas, and the "gnomoi" taking the ideas and cutting the "extra features". Myself, I think you can be a Tinker Gnome and still be more than comic releif, you just have to give them the right abilities to be useful. I noticed for example the "Engineer" advanced class. It has an ability called "Tinker" which involves getting a device to work more powerfully for a few rounds, but then "burning out" requiring a repair. There is also a class ability known as "Integrate Tech" which involves making alien and human technology work together. That would be especially useful in a dragonlance setting if you called it "integrate magic". That would allow you to use magical items to power gnomish inventions.
#9 Dragonhelm Jun 29, 2003 12:16:37	Originally posted by ferratus There was also the gnomoi of Taladas, who were the original gnomes before being cursed by Reorx. The cursed gnomes were known as the "minoi". Basically the two gnomish subraces existed in harmony, with the "minoi" providing most of the revolutionary new ideas, and the "gnomoi" taking the ideas and cutting the "extra features". DLA had the original Thinker Gnomes in the form of Mad Gnomes. IIRC, Mad Gnomes were considered to be gnomes who had "traveled from beyond" (meaning coming from another world). As Terry points out above, they show up in the Time of the Dragon boxed set on the continent of Taladas as the gnomoi. It wasn't until SAGA that the term "Thinker Gnome" came about (to my knowledge).