Key of Destiny Summary/Story Info.?

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#1

zombiegleemax

Jun 28, 2003 16:08:01
Is there a summary or any kind of story information about Key of Destiny anywhere? Or does anyone know the basic plot or how it begins, etc.?

Thanking you in advance,
Me
#2

zombiegleemax

Jun 30, 2003 21:34:26
As I'm the one writing it, I'll see if I can't pound out a summary for it tomorrow when I get back to work

Christopher
#3

zombiegleemax

Jul 06, 2003 22:26:25
Dang .. sounds like you have a pretty good source there. I am new to what has happened to the Dragonlance world in the past several years. But this seems unprecidented, to have access to the authors as they are fleshing out the world you will soon be playing in.

I am curious to see what this big mega adventure is about as well. Any ideas of redoing the original War of the Lance modules? How about a set of modules allowing the Legends trilogy to be played out? If not I know the source books will give us plenty of info to construct our own.
#4

talinthas

Jul 06, 2003 22:31:54
the original modules have been done 4 times.
legends was covered in the first DLA.
how about somehting new?

what the hell do you even do in legends? how do you play that?
#5

zombiegleemax

Jul 06, 2003 22:38:16
Once I get the back text of the adventure approved, I'll see if we can't post it here ;)

We have no plans to convert the original series of adventures as it's already been done to death and we want to move forward on other products.

Christopher
#6

zombiegleemax

Jul 06, 2003 22:40:26
Done 4 times? I have seen it done once. I have the originals and then the three compendiums of them done later. But they were the exact same modules, so I only count that once.

Legends was covered in what? DLA? Is that the Dragonlance Adventures book.. the hardback? I'm talking about a set of modules made.

For anything new I am content with making my own. I was just wishing for some updates to all our beginnings in Krynn. Actually for new stuff I will be making my own ... I don't like having multiple wars after the War of the Lance. In the future I may .. but for now I will be taking my version of Krynn down a different path.

I'm just excited to be able to have this argument. I thought it was the end of DL with the announcement that WoTC would no longer support it. They underestimated what their fan base wanted.
#7

zombiegleemax

Jul 06, 2003 22:51:19
They were done in the original, the Dragonlance Classics I through III, the Dragonlance Classics 15th Ann. Edition (SAGA/AD&D hybrid) and finally as a reprint of the originals as mini-books.

Technically only two different versions but in essence, they were done four times already.
#8

zombiegleemax

Jul 06, 2003 22:56:05
Ok .. I'll hold you to that. :D I'm going to redo all my modules myself to 3.5 rules. Just didn't want to do all that work and find out 6 months down the road I did it for nothing because you all were doing it.

I have a great idea for it. I am going to scan all my modules and use text recognition to turn it into word documents. I'll update all the creature stats and possibly include any new pics I find on the web or some of the new source books. Also include some of the maps from the Atlas as well as some of my own. I'll be able to change events and text that doesn't work for me, maybe even taking some of my favorite descriptions straight from the chronicles to include here. I'll print all of this back out and slip it in the cover with my old modules. This will be a lot cleaner than making numerous notes all over the place.

Has anyone else on here did an extensive update on the modules? I have seen the different updates to the Hero's and creatures' stats.

Originally posted by Richard Connery
They were done in the original, the Dragonlance Classics I through III, the Dragonlance Classics 15th Ann. Edition (SAGA/AD&D hybrid) and finally as a reprint of the originals as mini-books.

Hmmm ... I missed the 15th Ann. Edition. What exactly is SAGA? And I will pass on the mini-books.
#9

brimstone

Jul 07, 2003 8:54:27
Originally posted by Richard Connery
They were done in the original, the Dragonlance Classics I through III, the Dragonlance Classics 15th Ann. Edition (SAGA/AD&D hybrid) and finally as a reprint of the originals as mini-books.

Technically only two different versions but in essence, they were done four times already.

Well...wasn't Classics I through III technically AD&D 2nd Edition? Which was a problem, because they didn't update anything...so essentially...the the PCs ever wanted to get past Dragons of Despair they'd have to be at least 8 PCs of Level 10 or higher? LOL!

Anyway...those Mini-books are pretty slick. Kinda small (duh!) but quite clean...very easy to read...when 2 inches from your face. heh heh

I must say...the 2nd Edition versions really screwed us on material I can see (by comparing the mini-books to the compilations).
#10

talinthas

Jul 07, 2003 13:58:48
DL Classics was pretty much trash, yes =)

The skimped on a lot of important maps and stuff, not to mention all the glaring errors, missed box texts and other grammer issues. 2nd ed wasnt *that* different from first...

the DLCS did it much better.
#11

zombiegleemax

Jul 07, 2003 14:17:24
Originally posted by Brimstone
Well...wasn't Classics I through III technically AD&D 2nd Edition? Which was a problem, because they didn't update anything...so essentially...the the PCs ever wanted to get past Dragons of Despair they'd have to be at least 8 PCs of Level 10 or higher? LOL!

IIRC, Classics I was AD&D while Classics II & III was AD&D 2E.

Anyway...those Mini-books are pretty slick. Kinda small (duh!) but quite clean...very easy to read...when 2 inches from your face. heh heh

I must say...the 2nd Edition versions really screwed us on material I can see (by comparing the mini-books to the compilations).

I have bought the mini-books as well because I just want a complete collection heh. I have, however, made good use of DLA as mini-book since I can take with me to my sessions. I'm already weighted down as it is with the 3E books, my Dragonlance Gazetteer and current adventure (Return to the Tomb of Horrors which is a 160p book + 16p booklet + 32p illustrations) so instead of taking TotL with me I just use the mini-DLA.
#12

zombiegleemax

Jul 07, 2003 14:21:44
Originally posted by themeecer
Has anyone else on here did an extensive update on the modules? I have seen the different updates to the Hero's and creatures' stats.

Cam Banks has updated some to 3E. Check the Nexus (http://www.dl3e.com)

Hmmm ... I missed the 15th Ann. Edition. What exactly is SAGA? And I will pass on the mini-books.

Check the book here: http://www.wizards.com/catalog/product.asp?TSR11350

SAGA was the system used on the Fifth Age products. It used cards instead of dice and it was (ALOT) more free-form than D&D. The last DL gaming products (like the DL Classics 15th Ann. Edition) were hybrid SAGA/AD&D since SAGA products had poor sales.
#13

zombiegleemax

Jul 16, 2003 14:01:20
Okay, pending the official stamp of approval on the Back Text for the Key of Destiny, here's a little teaser. Note that some details may be subject to change ;)

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A mysterious elven artifact falls into the hands of a group of individuals fated to lead a new generation of heroes in a world that has seen many changes over the last few decades. The War of Souls is over, the gods have returned, and ancient evils have awakened. Can the heroes take hold of the Key of Destiny and unlock its secrets?

The Key of Destiny is designed as the first of a brand new, ongoing Dragonlance campaign trilogy of adventures, an introductory adventure that will take 1st level characters through 7th level. The characters are swept up in a tangled and intricate plot stretching back to the Age of Dreams, yet resurrected by the Fifth Age and the War of Souls.

* 7 new monsters
* 10 new magic items & 5 new spells
* (Map Booklet?)

To use this accessory, you also need the Dragonlance Campaign Setting, the Player’s Handbook, the Dungeon Master’s Guide, and the Monster Manual, published by Wizards of the Coast. The Dragonlance Campaign Setting Companion: The Age of Mortals, published by Sovereign Press, Inc., will also provide an invaluable resource of the current Dragonlance era of gaming!
----------------

Christopher :D
#14

randpc

Jul 16, 2003 14:14:12
Stormprince- I gather this is the first in a trilogy of adventures, will you be writing the other two modules as well?

How large/long is the 'Key Of Destiny' expected to be, and is their any set price point as yet at which you intend to market it?
#15

zombiegleemax

Jul 16, 2003 14:24:10
Originally posted by RandPC
Stormprince- I gather this is the first in a trilogy of adventures, will you be writing the other two modules as well?

How large/long is the 'Key Of Destiny' expected to be, and is their any set price point as yet at which you intend to market it?

Yep, I'm writing all three. The original story concept was hatched up by Margaret, Jamie, Don, and myself.

I believe Key of Destiny is planned as a 128p, b&w softbound for $24.99.

Christopher
#16

zombiegleemax

Jul 16, 2003 14:31:35
Excellent! Thanks Chris.
#17

sweetmeats

Jul 16, 2003 15:01:25
How easy would you say it would be to conver the module for use in earlier era's?
#18

zombiegleemax

Jul 16, 2003 15:08:52
Originally posted by SweetMeats
How easy would you say it would be to conver the module for use in earlier era's?

Some of it would be easier to convert than other parts. The idea of the adventure trilogy is to allow the characters to do something >EPIC< (not Epic Level) that would place their names up there amongst the Heroes of the Lance or the Heroes of the Heart, something that will have a lasting effect upon the world. It's set in the "default" setting: 6 months following the War of Souls.

That said, there's going to be some material in the book delving into detail on many locations that haven't really been explored before, fleshing out the area with maps and the like.

Christopher
#19

zombiegleemax

Jul 16, 2003 15:32:29
ooooooh. That sounds nice. I'll have to go ahead and buy those in case they go out of print before we get to that time era. Going to start into the War of the Lance asap. I have to re-learn how to play D&D. It's been years since I've played and the emergence of the 3.5 books pulled me back in.
#20

zombiegleemax

Jul 16, 2003 17:27:09
Are there specific character types that Key of Destiny is aimed at?
My players are very excited, and several have planned on having Silvanesti characters....a fencer from House Royal, a wizard from House Mystic, a kender rogue, and an undecided.
is there a way they are supposed to meet? are they supposed to already know eachother?
i suppose my questions look a little too far into the future at the moment, but my players expect me to perform miracles and know the unknowable...so it's worth a try to ask.
#21

zombiegleemax

Jul 16, 2003 18:00:20
Originally posted by Silvan_of_Eldamar
Are there specific character types that Key of Destiny is aimed at?
My players are very excited, and several have planned on having Silvanesti characters....a fencer from House Royal, a wizard from House Mystic, a kender rogue, and an undecided.
is there a way they are supposed to meet? are they supposed to already know eachother?
i suppose my questions look a little too far into the future at the moment, but my players expect me to perform miracles and know the unknowable...so it's worth a try to ask.

The adventure is written with the "core four" in mind: a wizard, a rogue, a fighter, and a cleric... or suitable alternates "Warrior, Arcane Spellcaster, Rogue, Divine Spellcaster."

There are a number of suggested "how to get started" and "how to build a Party & Party mechanics" points in the Getting Started chapter

Christopher
#22

zombiegleemax

Jul 17, 2003 9:55:54
Hey,

Kinda two part:

To Dragonhelm (who I know is constant awaiting my posts with baited breath) is it possible to get a sub-board for online RPG playing like the one on SovStone's boards, or is that taboo.

And to the rest - would anyone be interested in planning and playing Key of Destiny online on such a board as soon as the module is available? I'll even volunteer to play King ... er GM

-Gilles
#23

zombiegleemax

Jul 17, 2003 10:15:06
I am definitely interested in that idea Gilles. It is something I would like to be apart of.

:D
#24

zombiegleemax

Jul 17, 2003 15:03:54
*shows interest*

There's a board for those games here called Real D&D Adventures
#25

zombiegleemax

Jul 17, 2003 16:23:42
Originally posted by Gilles Prefontaine
Hey,

Kinda two part:

To Dragonhelm (who I know is constant awaiting my posts with baited breath) is it possible to get a sub-board for online RPG playing like the one on SovStone's boards, or is that taboo.

And to the rest - would anyone be interested in planning and playing Key of Destiny online on such a board as soon as the module is available? I'll even volunteer to play King ... er GM

-Gilles

How about in a chat room on mIRC? It would be easy to set up and much smoother than a msg board. I'm already playing in 2 online games, so if you have any questions about setting it up, feel free to ask. And in case you can't already tell, I'm very interested in playing in such a game.
#26

Dragonhelm

Jul 17, 2003 16:27:27
Originally posted by Gilles Prefontaine
Hey,

Kinda two part:

To Dragonhelm (who I know is constant awaiting my posts with baited breath) is it possible to get a sub-board for online RPG playing like the one on SovStone's boards, or is that taboo.

And to the rest - would anyone be interested in planning and playing Key of Destiny online on such a board as soon as the module is available? I'll even volunteer to play King ... er GM

-Gilles

I think WotC's boards policy prohibits this. You may wish to e-mail Paradox or one of the other WizOs to make sure.

Sorry, wish I could be of more help.
#27

zombiegleemax

Jul 17, 2003 17:49:11
The "default" six months following the War of Souls?
Does that mean that the DLCS puts us six months after the war of souls overall or does that six months after only apply to the Key of Destiny?
Pardon my curiosity
#28

zombiegleemax

Jul 17, 2003 18:30:56
Originally posted by DaemonAngel
The "default" six months following the War of Souls?
Does that mean that the DLCS puts us six months after the war of souls overall or does that six months after only apply to the Key of Destiny?
Pardon my curiosity

We set the default "six months" after to allow time for players to play Clerics and Wizards as well as mystics and sorcerers. Time for some of the dust to settle.

Christopher
#29

zombiegleemax

Jul 17, 2003 23:33:09
So where does that mean the exiled elven nations are six months after the WoS? And where are the WoHS being taught? Clerics?
#30

zombiegleemax

Jul 17, 2003 23:50:27
Originally posted by Silvan_of_Eldamar
So where does that mean the exiled elven nations are six months after the WoS? And where are the WoHS being taught? Clerics?

The exiled elven nations are scattered. Gilthas is still trying to get Solamnia to aid in the reclamation of Silvanost, but already, some of their people have scattered.

Dalamar has been tasked with rebuilding the Order, which isn't quite as easy as he thought... those still alive who remember the old ways have small schools, much like in the old days (i.e., Soulforge)...Tests are currently being handled on a small scale. No Tower, but "homebrewed" testing to help rebuild the Order's numbers.

At least, that's my take on it all ;)

Christopher
#31

brimstone

Jul 18, 2003 16:55:30
Originally posted by Stormprince
No Tower, but "homebrewed" testing to help rebuild the Order's numbers.

So does that mean that the Tower of Wayreth is still mainly catering to Sorcerers only?
#32

zombiegleemax

Jul 18, 2003 17:04:23
Originally posted by Brimstone
So does that mean that the Tower of Wayreth is still mainly catering to Sorcerers only?

Actually... I can't really say yet o.o;

But... the answer is yes and no ;)

Christopher
#33

brimstone

Jul 18, 2003 17:05:16
Originally posted by Stormprince
Actually... I can't really say yet o.o;

But... the answer is yes and no ;)

ARGH!!!

Okay...can I ask when we will find out?
#34

zombiegleemax

Jul 18, 2003 17:13:41
Originally posted by Brimstone
ARGH!!!

Okay...can I ask when we will find out?

Well, there are little hints hidden in the DLCS and Age of Mortals, there will be a few more details in the Towers of High Sorcery Suppliment...

And then, the full story will unfold in the not too distant future

Christopher
#35

brimstone

Jul 18, 2003 17:19:27
Originally posted by Stormprince
And then, the full story will unfold in the not too distant future

In the The First Conclave book, I assume?

We haven't heard much about this since the interview with NVB. But she later said she was no longer writing it...does this mean the book has been nixed, put on the back burner, or still in the works? Hopefully the latter of the three.
#36

lorac75

Sep 02, 2003 10:12:12
Is the Sylvan Key adventure in the DLCS the beginning of this adventure? If not, does anyone have any good ideas on what to do with it?
#37

zombiegleemax

Sep 02, 2003 14:58:37
Originally posted by Stormprince
Well, there are little hints hidden in the DLCS and Age of Mortals, there will be a few more details in the Towers of High Sorcery Suppliment...

And then, the full story will unfold in the not too distant future

Christopher

Does anyone think they have found such hints? Page numbers please!!! :D
#38

carteeg

Sep 04, 2003 12:15:55
__________________
"All there is for you to decide is what to do with the time that is given to you."

--Gandalf the Grey

I decide to use my time to tear my hair out while waiting for yet-to-be-released products to be released.
:D
#39

zombiegleemax

Sep 04, 2003 22:48:53
Chirs, when is this product going to be released?
#40

mula

Sep 05, 2003 4:17:49
Originally posted by Stormprince
adventure that will take 1st level characters through 7th level.

How strictly is it for 1st level characters? Would there any difficulties in starting the adventure with, say, 3rd or even 5th level characters?
#41

zombiegleemax

Sep 05, 2003 7:35:54
Originally posted by Mula
How strictly is it for 1st level characters? Would there any difficulties in starting the adventure with, say, 3rd or even 5th level characters?

Scaling the adventure is actually fairly easy, although it may require a little bit of tweaking here and there. ;)

Christopher
#42

zombiegleemax

Sep 10, 2003 16:41:43
Exactly what kind of adventure is this....high roleplaying.....dungeon crawling....does it take advantage of the aerial combat rules....incorporate ways to take advantage of the organization specific PrC's......and most importantly.....what is the actual release date? When can I go to my FLGS and take it home?
#43

zombiegleemax

Sep 10, 2003 17:29:06
Originally posted by Serena DarkMyst
Exactly what kind of adventure is this....high roleplaying.....dungeon crawling....does it take advantage of the aerial combat rules....incorporate ways to take advantage of the organization specific PrC's......and most importantly.....what is the actual release date? When can I go to my FLGS and take it home?

It's an "epic" (lower case) adventure, just the 1st part of 3... incorporating dungeon delving, city skulking, diplomacy, mystery, a hint of romance, lots of danger, world changing events, strange and unusual locales (exploring lots of places only seen on a map or only briefly touched upon in novels and game products), and everything else I can shove into 'em ;)

Yep, you'll see quite a bit from the DLCS and even the AoM incorporated into the entire adventure... it's meant to really show off the scope of the world :D

And I don't have an exact release date yet... when I do, I'll be sure to tell ya! ;)

Christopher
#44

carteeg

Sep 11, 2003 6:18:48
Will there be appearances of any of the War of Souls characters or any of the other pre-estabilished characters in the adventures, or is this running separate from their stories and focusing on all new characters (as NPCs)?
#45

zombiegleemax

Sep 11, 2003 8:50:28
Originally posted by carteeg
Will there be appearances of any of the War of Souls characters or any of the other pre-estabilished characters in the adventures, or is this running separate from their stories and focusing on all new characters (as NPCs)?

As of right now, there are no 'major' appearances from novel characters, yet. ;)

I'm not saying there will be, I'm not saying there won't be... :P

Christopher
#46

carteeg

Sep 12, 2003 19:00:31
Get me guess. Translation:

"Not in part 1; maybe later. Minor characters possibly. But I'm not saying either way right now, because either I haven't decided, or don't want to give too much away. So nyah. :P "

*sigh* *whimper*

;)

Thanks for the answer, though. I'll try to be a patient boy.