) so I decided to put up an inpromptu poll of sorts.The question ...
What is your favorite Dragonlance race?
Which race do you find yourself drawn to? Why? Which races history do you know forwards and backwards? Be it the labor loving Dwarves of Thorbardin, the Honorable Humans of Solomnia, or even those Horrifying Creatures the Draconians.
The Minotaurs have always been my favorite. I devour every single novel that Mr. Knaak writes. The image of the massive viscious but honorable warriors battling each other in the Great Circus or aboard a massive ship just makes me want to wade into battle with my battleaxe held high!
I wish that the boards would offer a minotaur avatar for me though!:sad:
Kevin
)I'm also a fan of kender, half-kender, and Kagonesti elves. Actually, I'm not sure that there is a DL PC race that I don't like.
Originally posted by Dragonhelm
Minotaurs rule! Or they will shortly. Heh heh heh.
Must Supress Desire To Recite Minotaur Litany!However, from my experience, its the oft-ignored humans of Ergoth trhat get my vote. The books TRY to show the Solamnics as the be-all and end-all of Krynn, but they only suceed in a showing a petty, vain people that THINK they're Paladine's gift tp Krynn...
;)
Cheers,
Cam
"Why, yes, thats me."
"You're a jerk, Dent. A real kneebiter."
(with apologies to Douglas Adams ;) )
As for my favorite DL race. Well...I used to not have one. I pretty much liked them all equally (although the Kyrie were high up on the list). Lately though...in case you couldn't tell...Centaurs are far and away my favorite. Thanks to Dezra's Quest and stuff in More Leaves. I've really come to enjoy the Centaurs. Especially the new split between the crazy Chaos maddened Centaurs and the ones that still follow Chislev and the Forestmaster. Very cool.
Long live Tarbash! :D
Minotaurs may someday rule the world, but nobody digs a hole the way a Dwarf does
Originally posted by B'naa
but nobody digs a hole the way a Dwarf does
You've obviously never heard me try and back peddle my way out of something after I've just stuck my foot in my mouth, then, have you? :D
Originally posted by Dragonhelm
I have. It's not a pretty sight.
If you're referring to what I think you're referring to...then yeah...that one wasn't pretty...
They make the minotaurs so different from the norm. They aren't monsters, but a race which seeks domance. Least favorite is the elves. Shame that Paladin became an elf.
it was one of the first submissions to the nexus too =)
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Originally posted by Dragontooth
Shame that Paladin became an elf.
I started to read Dragons of a Fallen Sun yesterday... muchos gracias!!
And when the Setting book comes out, they'd better be IMMUNE to FEAR, only going to a save for EPIC GODLIKE fear effects.
There are two recorded instances of a kender being afraid.
1. Attempting to enter the Shoikan Grove at the tower of high sorcery in Panthalas - and then, that didn't send him running. It simply made him walk a bit slower...
2. The utter destruction of thousands of kender and their homeland by a bloody huge red dragon. Not your normal one, but one the size of a few dozen football stadiums.
Oh... Tinker Gnomes come in second - who couldn't love the gnome flinger ;)
-Robert
Originally posted by Robert N.
Oh... Tinker Gnomes come in second - who couldn't love the gnome flinger ;)
The gnomes tried a variant on that once - the gnomeflicker. Unfortunately, it gave them bad visuals, and the idea was scrapped after being in only one generation's worth of committee. ;)
I think everyone preety much agrees that DL has a unique look to every race. Each has there own interesting aspects and all (possibly with the eception of humans) are have a distinctive flavor and appeal all there own. So I'd have to agree that all the rases are cool:D
I despise elves in general (Tolkien's work not included) but the Elves of Krynn are an charming race that I hold dear.
On to new business
Originally posted by Dragontooth
Shame that Paladin became an elf.
Thanks for the spoiler warning Dragontooth
Originally posted by Bredangar
get it? bull-ies...
Ha ha ha! Not funny!
:DThey made Mino's dumb. Kaz never struck me as being dull or dim-witted.
How, exactly, a race of idiots can become the world's best oceanfarers I'll never know.
-Robert
Originally posted by Robert N.
Grrr...
They made Mino's dumb. Kaz never struck me as being dull or dim-witted.
How, exactly, a race of idiots can become the world's best oceanfarers I'll never know.
The ability to think or reason is covered by wisdom. Intelligence is based on the amount of knowledge accumulated due to education.
Minotaurs tend to spend more time on the battle-field than the classroom, as a general rule. However, a Minotaur wizard with a 16 Intelligence is a dedicated scholar indeed.
Originally posted by Robert N.
Grrr...
They made Mino's dumb. Kaz never struck me as being dull or dim-witted.
How, exactly, a race of idiots can become the world's best oceanfarers I'll never know.
-Robert
-2 Intelligence isn't dumb. It's closmindedness (<-- is that a word?)
Besides Kaz was a hero and a superb example of the species :D
Also I'd like to note that I'd rather play a less intelligent minotaur than waiting till 9th level to play one!
Intelligence is The capacity to acquire and apply knowledge. The faculty of thought and reason. Superior powers of mind.
Having been on several ships before, I can tell you from personal experience, you can't just guess how to said and rely on intuition to get you through, you have to know how to sail, and you have to be quick about it (think about some of the waves you see out at sea).
Now, not too many people accuse the Mino's of great ability at choosing what is true and right, but everyone agrees that they have the capacity to acquire and apply knowledge, especially that of sailing.
-Robert
Originally posted by Robert N.
Wisdom is the ability to discern or judge what is true, right, or lasting; insight and Common sense; good judgment
Intelligence is The capacity to acquire and apply knowledge. The faculty of thought and reason. Superior powers of mind.
Having been on several ships before, I can tell you from personal experience, you can't just guess how to said and rely on intuition to get you through, you have to know how to sail, and you have to be quick about it (think about some of the waves you see out at sea).
Now, not too many people accuse the Mino's of great ability at choosing what is true and right, but everyone agrees that they have the capacity to acquire and apply knowledge, especially that of sailing.
-Robert
Being ex-Navy myself, I can tell you straight off that there are some pretty stupid people in the military, yet they make brilliant sailors. Yeah, you have to have some knowledge, but a little knowledge goes a long way. Additionally, you hafta remember that every few levels, you get a +1 to a stat...a minotaur wanting to be a wizard would just be sure to apply that bonus to Intelligence then ;)
As far as 3.5 is concerned, the "Sailor's" skills are not Intelligence-biased. Additionally, the Mariner class gains an ability called Seamanship, which grants an increasing circumstance bonus to "sea skills" as the mariner advances...experience is a harsh teacher.
Christopher
Sure there are stupid people in the Military. They're called Officers, and are kept as far away from actuall work as possible so they don't get anyone hurt :D
Sorry, I couldn't resist :invasion: :bounce: :invasion: :pile:
Coming in close second would be minotaurs.
then Gully dwarves.
Then Gnomes.
And then dwarves.
And lastly, Kagonesti.
In fact most of my homebrew DL material relates in some way to the Gnomes.
;)
Old Sage of Palanthus
:D
Old Sage of Palanthus
Originally posted by Old Sage
As a second preference, I would have to say, Minotaurs. And if your first or second preference is Minotaurs, then my explanations are not needed, as you already know the reasons why ;)
Bleh .. when I see a minotaur there is only one thing that comes to mind..... prime rib steak. Hooves or no hooves, makes little difference to me ... they make good grub.
Originally posted by Lenin97
Thanks for the spoiler warning Dragontooth
The book been out for a year and we still have to give spoiler warning? What is up with that? Not my fault people don't want to buy the book. I could understand if the book was out a couple of months to give a spoiler warning.
Originally posted by Dragontooth
The book been out for a year and we still have to give spoiler warning? What is up with that? Not my fault people don't want to buy the book. I could understand if the book was out a couple of months to give a spoiler warning.
You can't expect everyone on the boards to have read every Dragonlance book that is more than a few months old. Be realistic. Spoiler warnings should be given for everything from Dragons of Autumn Twilight to... whatever the newest Dragonlance book is.
Which reminds me... I CAN'T BELIEVE PALIN DIES AT THE END OF DRAGONS OF A LOST STAR!!
Gotcha. :D
No other race can compare, at least for me.
:D
Originally posted by Lenin97
I just started "The Doom Brigade" and I have to say that while reading this book, I have a new found respect for the Draconian races that I didn't possess before.
Most who read the Kang regiment books say the same. It's made me really want to play a draconian character in my next RPG campaign:fight!:
-Gilles
-Gilles
;)
Originally posted by Archmage
The Silvanesti Elves are my favorite race. You can never go wrong with elitist snobs whose king turns their land into a living nightmare and who barricade themselves behind a magical shield that saps their lifeforces.
I just wonder if we will ever see a world where elves aren't dying out, driven from their homelands by hordes of beasts and humans?
Think of a land where the opposite is true. Elves are abundant and wild (Kagonesti) and only pockets of civilized humans remain... even though the elves are still trying to rid themselves of those pests.
-Gilles
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:D
Originally posted by DaemonAngel
Elves are almost always the "Utopian Uber-Mench" of a fantasy setting. I guess thats why they get beat up all the time.
Have you ever read any of the Deathgate Cycle novels by Margaret Weis and Tracy Hickman? If you did, you would know that statement doesn't apply to that setting.
There, the elves are the ruthless badasses of the cosmos.
Originally posted by Xeros
I have always been a fan of the DL minotaurs, for one main reason. No intelligence penalty.
So does that mean that you no longer like them?
So does that mean that you no longer like them?
DO they have an int penalty now? I hadn't heard that. They better not, that would **** me off.
Don't worry though, you can still have genius level minotaurs. This isn't 2e. a -2 penalty is overcome by 8th level, and surpassed by 20th. It just means that wizards are less common among minotaurs than among elves or humans. Remember as well that -2 just means a lack of book-learning. Wisdom handles thought and reasoning skills in 3e. There is no penalty for that.
If the -2 penalty really bugs you, remove it and add a +1 ECL to the minotaur race. That would mean you wouldn't be able to play it until 2nd level however.
Do you have a url, I don't know where to find the wizards DL page.
I know that means you can still start with 16, it's the concept that the racial average is below the human racial average.
Yeah, that means I'd no longer be as big a fan of minotaurs. Maybe it's back to my default favorite half elf for me.
Originally posted by CNEFD
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-Gilles
Originally posted by Xeros
Ack! Ptooey!
I know that means you can still start with 16, it's the concept that the racial average is below the human racial average.
*shrugs* Frankly, I'd be more concerned if it wasn't there. That would mean that minotaurs are just as likely to sit and read books as go out and die in arena combat and conquer Taladas.