Neither Athas.org nor any other website seems to touch those aspects.
And:
Gibt es so was wie athas.org auch auf deutsch? Hat schon mal jemand darüber nachgedacht, die PDFs zu übersetzen?
However, using the system in the DMG I gave out 40 points.
Currently I am using a stat point option that I used in 2e where the points were 1 for 1 and you had 90 points, that's a 15 in each stat on average. Though I may up that a little for my DS campaigns.
Of course, I would give my players the 'option' of using the standard array instead.
DS is supposed to be hard, right? Besides, players tend to feel more accomplished if they succeed w/o uber-stats, so, while they grumble and moan at first, they end up thanking me later.
15,14,13,12,10,8 is plenty heroic enough, even for Athas.
EDIT: Being precognitive, I sense someone will reply: "It's not slightly more powerful, it's ridiculously more powerful."
Here is my precognitive answer: "It weeds out the dumb ones." :D
I do have one comment on TC though, the first battle encounter was CR8 (a bunch of brutes) but my party (2 7th level PsyWars, the Preserver and his 2nd level sidekick .5giant) pretty much took them apart, very little damage done to us, 4 completely gibbed brutes and 2 merely dead ones. Of course, a reach of 10 ft + 3d6+15( I think, IDHMCSIFOM) damage from a non-critical hit might have had something to do w/ that... nah. who am I kidding, it's just as easy to make a few .5giant encounters too... but 17-20 crit ranges are very nice, I must say.
4d4+4 gives an average score of 14. It takes 36 points to get all 14s with pointbuy system, but since higher costs kick in right above 14 and scores aren't exactly 14, you need to assign a little more points. 40 is good for 16-16-14-14-12-12. Perhaps a little higher than 40 could be used, but that would allow for some evil min-maxing.
To allow scores up to 20, you could let your players buy a 19 for 20 points or a 20 for 24 points. Eats a lot though.
Of course everyone else would have better scores too, since everyone else lives on that same harsher world too. it's 5d4 instead of 3d6 for them, so 12.5 instead of 10.5 on average. Just give all NPC's a +2 too all attributes and you got a quick fix.
Note that a +2 to all attributes for all NPC's they encounter will defenitely make the world harsher, despite their own extra statpoints.
Or I just give them what I want.
Of course everyone else would have better scores too, since everyone else lives on that same harsher world too. it's 5d4 instead of 3d6 for them, so 12.5 instead of 10.5 on average. Just give all NPC's a +2 too all attributes and you got a quick fix.
If your campaign is entirely city-based and has no monsters at all, only NPC characters, then yes. However, if you plan to play with monsters, your quick patch does not work. Monsters have static pre-assigned ability scores and would be at a disadvantage against your boosted PCs and NPCs.
Basically, if you assume life is harsher on Artas and being born on Artas boosts your stats, then everything get's the +2 boost. This of course applies to anything you have unboosted stats of.
If you have a 25 point buy character and give him a +2 stat boost, he's pretty much aligned to a 40 point character.
Of course this is only usefull for characters and monsters of which you already have unboosted stats for. If you don"t have any stats yet, you could make your NPC's using the same rule as your PC's if you so desire.
(And no, the PC's aren't the only ones receiving high scores. They're heroic figures, so they should get above average scores IMHO, but they're not the only heroes, so a lot of NPC's are receiving the same amount of scores.)
Hmm... Can't seem to link the file properly here, so anyways, the link to my page is in my signature, if you want to take a look.
(Go see material, Chapter One: Abilities)
Originally posted by Star Gazer
Heh, thanks Jon! Flip is running us through TC right now. He he he... that's what my buddy Drik the .5giant body guard is for. Can anyone say .5giant sized +1 Keen Great Sword (rather the Athasian Equivalent)? And that's just the back up for a Preserver(conjurer)5/Pale Master2... Ahhh the Leadership feat, so nice.
Some day, stargazer. Some day, I will happily utter the phrase "And, Drik dies."
And, since you happily have no clerics in the party, and none of you can actually carry him, the lirr will feast.
Flip-DM: "Oh, really?"
Roger-Drik: "DM skinny, like elf. Drik break DM in more than one part!"
Flip-DM: "Drik, make a will save"
Roger-Drik: "Uh oh, I got trouble Dag"
Roger-Dagrimar: "Do I know you half-giant? Get thee away from me!"
Flip-DM: "Drik, the nice man in brown robes reminds you how many times Dag has mistreated you, you don't really like that untrustworthy elf, do you?"
Roger-Drik: "Drik SMASH puny elf man!"
Roger-Dagrimar: "Damn defil...."
The moral to this story is: DM stands for Dominate Monster.
We now return you to your regularly scheduled topic....