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Do I NEED the 3.5 PH & DMG for DLCS??

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#1
zombiegleemax
Jul 16, 2003 17:56:09 Pardon me if this has already been addressed, I did scan the forum before posting this and didn't find this exact topic, so here goes...

I am definitely getting the DLCS, probably getting Age of Mortals, but wasn't planning to buy the new 3.5 core rulebooks at all, instead borrowing from the SRD for any new info I was interested in using for my campaigns. I only recently found out that the DLCS has been updated to 3.5, and am worried that it will be hard to convert...will it?

Now, before I get flamed nice and crispy, I do believe that this is a valid concern, especially for a DM. Ever try to use an AD&D module with the 3E rulebooks? It's awkward at best, and at it's worst you are constantly referring to notes and trying to figure out a way to smoothly transition rules and monster stats. At least, that was how it was for me.

The only reason I would even consider buying the new Player's Handbook and Dungeon Master's Guide would be because I absolutely needed them for Dragonlance. So...what do people think???
#2
zombiegleemax
Jul 16, 2003 18:00:58 Don't worry. There will be no flaming!

Personally, I'm just gonna keep my old books and use the SRD like you said, no matter what happens. (Gotta save that money for future DL D20 products.)
#3
banshee
Jul 16, 2003 18:36:37 I'd tend to agree. If the SRD has the details on the changes, great. Personally, though I've loved most of what WotC has done with the game, I *really* resent what has been done with 3.5. I don't like the changes, I don't like mid-stream edition changes that invalidate my older products.....at least not 3 years after I bought the original rulebooks.

These books are just a tad too expensive to be treating them like they're Magic: The Gathering cards that can be updated every year.

Banshee
#4
shugi
Jul 16, 2003 19:52:55 I actually think it's easier to convert the DL material into 3.0 than to convert the rest of your information to 3.5 -- there's much less ambiguity that way.
#5
ranger_reg
Jul 16, 2003 19:53:40 Do you NEED 3.5e to play DLCS? No.

AFAIC, DLCS is compatible to both 3e and 3.5e. The other past editions, you're on your own.
#6
zombiegleemax
Jul 17, 2003 3:55:48 I'm getting the 3.5 PHB simply because of the updated classes, feats and spells. I'm not so sure about the 3.5 MM and the 3.5 DMG is wayyy off in the back of my shopping list.

I'm getting DLCS first, and since one of my players allready bought all three 3.5 books, I won't bother getting the SRD. ( I hate tons of printouts!)

I like the 3.5 changes (mostly) but I don't have a million a week to blow on books (otherwise I'd still play Magic: The Keep-buying!)
#7
zombiegleemax
Jul 17, 2003 10:37:16 EXACTLY WHAT DAY WILL THE SRD BE UPDATED?
#8
talinthas
Jul 17, 2003 11:55:20 midnight of july 24th.
#9
ranger_reg
Jul 18, 2003 21:32:10 Midnight at which time zone?
#10
talinthas
Jul 19, 2003 3:10:37 assume PDT, as wotc is based here.
#11
carteeg
Jul 19, 2003 8:46:05 *puts dunce cap on*

Okay, what does SRD stand for, what is it exactly, and where is it available?
#12
jonesy
Jul 19, 2003 9:02:50
Originally posted by carteeg
*puts dunce cap on*

Okay, what does SRD stand for, what is it exactly, and where is it available?

http://www.wizards.com/D20/article.asp?x=srd
#13
zombiegleemax
Jul 19, 2003 11:48:09
Originally posted by Ranger REG
Do you NEED 3.5e to play DLCS? No.

AFAIC, DLCS is compatible to both 3e and 3.5e. The other past editions, you're on your own.

The DLCS is written to be compatible with the 3.5 rules, though there isn't enough information within that's so specific to the 3.5 rules that prevents it from being backward compatible. Long story short, you can use it in a campaign run using either rule set.
#14
ranger_reg
Jul 20, 2003 3:41:56 That's all I need to know, 'cause I'm sticking to my 3e books.
#15
carteeg
Jul 20, 2003 9:40:29 Thanks for the SRD reference.

So far the only 3.5 reference I've found in the DLCS is in one of the clerical domains which makes reference to the new versions of polymorph. But at the moment that's it.

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#1 zombiegleemax Jul 16, 2003 17:56:09	Pardon me if this has already been addressed, I did scan the forum before posting this and didn't find this exact topic, so here goes... I am definitely getting the DLCS, probably getting Age of Mortals, but wasn't planning to buy the new 3.5 core rulebooks at all, instead borrowing from the SRD for any new info I was interested in using for my campaigns. I only recently found out that the DLCS has been updated to 3.5, and am worried that it will be hard to convert...will it? Now, before I get flamed nice and crispy, I do believe that this is a valid concern, especially for a DM. Ever try to use an AD&D module with the 3E rulebooks? It's awkward at best, and at it's worst you are constantly referring to notes and trying to figure out a way to smoothly transition rules and monster stats. At least, that was how it was for me. The only reason I would even consider buying the new Player's Handbook and Dungeon Master's Guide would be because I absolutely needed them for Dragonlance. So...what do people think???
#2 zombiegleemax Jul 16, 2003 18:00:58	Don't worry. There will be no flaming! Personally, I'm just gonna keep my old books and use the SRD like you said, no matter what happens. (Gotta save that money for future DL D20 products.)
#3 banshee Jul 16, 2003 18:36:37	I'd tend to agree. If the SRD has the details on the changes, great. Personally, though I've loved most of what WotC has done with the game, I really resent what has been done with 3.5. I don't like the changes, I don't like mid-stream edition changes that invalidate my older products.....at least not 3 years after I bought the original rulebooks. These books are just a tad too expensive to be treating them like they're Magic: The Gathering cards that can be updated every year. Banshee
#4 shugi Jul 16, 2003 19:52:55	I actually think it's easier to convert the DL material into 3.0 than to convert the rest of your information to 3.5 -- there's much less ambiguity that way.
#5 ranger_reg Jul 16, 2003 19:53:40	Do you NEED 3.5e to play DLCS? No. AFAIC, DLCS is compatible to both 3e and 3.5e. The other past editions, you're on your own.
#6 zombiegleemax Jul 17, 2003 3:55:48	I'm getting the 3.5 PHB simply because of the updated classes, feats and spells. I'm not so sure about the 3.5 MM and the 3.5 DMG is wayyy off in the back of my shopping list. I'm getting DLCS first, and since one of my players allready bought all three 3.5 books, I won't bother getting the SRD. ( I hate tons of printouts!) I like the 3.5 changes (mostly) but I don't have a million a week to blow on books (otherwise I'd still play Magic: The Keep-buying!)
#7 zombiegleemax Jul 17, 2003 10:37:16	EXACTLY WHAT DAY WILL THE SRD BE UPDATED?
#8 talinthas Jul 17, 2003 11:55:20	midnight of july 24th.
#9 ranger_reg Jul 18, 2003 21:32:10	Midnight at which time zone?
#10 talinthas Jul 19, 2003 3:10:37	assume PDT, as wotc is based here.
#11 carteeg Jul 19, 2003 8:46:05	puts dunce cap on Okay, what does SRD stand for, what is it exactly, and where is it available?
#12 jonesy Jul 19, 2003 9:02:50	Originally posted by carteeg puts dunce cap on Okay, what does SRD stand for, what is it exactly, and where is it available? http://www.wizards.com/D20/article.asp?x=srd
#13 zombiegleemax Jul 19, 2003 11:48:09	Originally posted by Ranger REG Do you NEED 3.5e to play DLCS? No. AFAIC, DLCS is compatible to both 3e and 3.5e. The other past editions, you're on your own. The DLCS is written to be compatible with the 3.5 rules, though there isn't enough information within that's so specific to the 3.5 rules that prevents it from being backward compatible. Long story short, you can use it in a campaign run using either rule set.
#14 ranger_reg Jul 20, 2003 3:41:56	That's all I need to know, 'cause I'm sticking to my 3e books.
#15 carteeg Jul 20, 2003 9:40:29	Thanks for the SRD reference. So far the only 3.5 reference I've found in the DLCS is in one of the clerical domains which makes reference to the new versions of polymorph. But at the moment that's it.