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#1 zombiegleemax Jul 28, 2003 4:11:34	Who gives the power for the spells to the templars of the cities-state in which it is dead the Sorcerer-King? I would not know really. Thanks a lot.:D
#2 zombiegleemax Jul 28, 2003 4:19:41	If a sorceror king dies, all his following templars lose their spell abilities. Many templars of such city-states move on and try to become templars of other SKs, but probably not with any amount of success (especially in Gulg or worse for males trying to become templars of Nibenay). Unless they find a new patron, a templar who has lost his monarch has lost his templar spells for good. I would imagine that many would try and compensate for the lack of templar spells by learning other spellcasting forms or by learning psionics, while still keeping their old positions within the city.
#3 zombiegleemax Jul 28, 2003 4:27:22	Do you say that the templars of Tyr, Raam, Dray and Balic don't cast the spells? It is a bad thing for the templar's core class. Don't you believe?:sad:
#4 zombiegleemax Jul 28, 2003 4:30:37	I do agree with you on that. Especially since there are not going to be any new SKs. If Nib, Hamanu, and Lalily, and Draskinor all die off, there's not going to be any more templars at all. Unless of course there are other SKs out there (which I imagine there are). Kinda sad really. Now I feel bad for all the poor templars . . . *sniffle*
#5 jon_oracle_of_athas Jul 28, 2003 5:40:02	Welcome to Athas. It's not fair, but Athas never was. The majority of PC templars in revised DS campaigns starting in Free Year 11 should be from Urik, Nibenay, Gulg, Kurn or Eldaarich. For internal party balance purposes, I would not recommend you to play a templar from a city-state without a sorcerer-monarch under the D&D 3E system, seeing that it is the equivalent of an NPC class (commoner, expert etc). A single level in the templar class from a city without a sorcerer-monarch is acceptable, but beyond that you'd be better off multi-classing into something else, such as fighter, psion or wizard. For campaigns predating the "disappearances" of Abalach-Re, Tectuktitlay and Androponis (and there's also old Kalak), the templar class is a viable PC class option for all cities.
#6 zombiegleemax Jul 28, 2003 7:33:44	Ok, thanks. You have been very clear but would I like to ask you other two questions? :D 1) they are not also there the Dregoth's templar. Does it seem me that they call Dray? 2) considering that we are there, you can give me information on Kurn and Eldaarich? Who are the monarches of these City that give powers to their templars? Excuse me for the ignorance
#7 zombiegleemax Jul 28, 2003 7:52:59	Given the current state of affairs I think there could be an argument for making the templar class 'spell-free' and granting templars powers through prestige classes. Apart from anything else that opens the possibility of making templars unique to the sorcerer-king in question. It also opens the possibility of sorcerer-kings granting powers to other of their servants apart from templars. But I'm just thinking aloud here. Sono lieto di vedere "Dark Sun" e saputo in Italia.
#8 zombiegleemax Jul 28, 2003 8:15:50	Originally posted by Afghan .... Sono lieto di vedere "Dark Sun" e saputo in Italia. Grazie. Il piacere è tutto mio! Ciao
#9 jon_oracle_of_athas Jul 28, 2003 13:11:42	Afghan, there will be unique prestige classes for each city, but they will be built around the spellcasting templar core class, and there will be a High Templar class - much akin to the path Cleric > Whatever > Hierophant; or Wizard > Whatever > Archmage. It will be a point, however, to grant the individual city prestige classes spell-like abilities that will function regardless of having an SK or not. You'll see an example with the Moon Priest prestige class in City-State of Draj, scheduled to be released this week if all goes well.
#10 jon_oracle_of_athas Jul 28, 2003 13:18:20	Gref, Dregoth's templars have spells, and they are almost exclusively Dray (Mon Adderath, a human high templar, is an exception). Kurn is ruled by the reformed sorcerer-king Oronis, who is actually an avangion (avangions, the counterparts of dragons, are described in the "Dragon Kings" and "Preservers and Defilers" accessories). Eldaarich is run by the paranoid sorcerer-king Daskinor. You can find more information on these two sorcerer-kings in the revised Dark Sun boxed set. It can be bought as a pdf download at www.svgames.com. Ciao.
#11 xlorepdarkhelm_dup Jul 28, 2003 20:52:24	Originally posted by Jon, Oracle of Athas Eldaarich is run by the paranoid sorcerer-king Daskinor. Insane in the membrane... Also, some flavor-filled info can be found in Wisdom of the Drylanders, which was up on athas.org at one time, not certian now. Nice little document written from the perspective of the Kurnian spy school.
#12 gab Jul 28, 2003 21:17:42	Wisdom of the Drylanders is still there: http://www.athas.org/releases/wisdom/
#13 jon_oracle_of_athas Jul 29, 2003 4:38:34	Wisdom of the Drylanders is an official DS product.
#14 xlorepdarkhelm_dup Jul 29, 2003 10:24:17	IT's a very nicely done project.... which reminds me, has anyone seen/heard from Brax for a (long) while? I know he said (on the other board) he was gonna be out for soem time, just wonderin...
#15 jon_oracle_of_athas Jul 29, 2003 12:57:31	Brax is very busy these days. I don't want to go into details on someone else's personal life without their approval, but he's doing well - just very busy! EDIT: We sometimes talk on MSN Messenger.