I Really Wish WOTC Would Read These Posts!

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#1

manowater989

Jul 28, 2003 18:36:30		I mean, ok, sure, there's a lot of posts going on, but would it kill the WOTC employees/administrators to look through these posts and answer any questions that they happen to know the answers to as like a customer service thing? Like for example, I want to know if some of the lists I've seen of PS products are complete. I could post the list, and sure, another user might know, but WOTC would definitly know, even THOUGH they're not TSR anymore, but would they ever answer? Nooooooo. Sorry, I'm done venting now. I guess I'll post the list, and ask the question: does anyone know if this is a COMPLETE listing of all Planescape gaming products, or can anyone think if I'm missing any?



Boxed Sets
2600 Planescape Campaign Setting
2603 Planes of Chaos
2607 Planes of Law
2615 Planes of Conflict
2621 Hellbound: The Blood War
2610 A Player’s Primer to the Outlands

Accessories
Planescape Conspectus

2609 In the Cage: A Guide to Sigil
2611 The Factol’s Manifesto
2620 The Planeswalker’s Handbook
2623 On Hallowed Ground
2624 Uncaged: Faces of Sigil
2625 A Guide to the Astral Plane
2633 A Guide to the Ethereal Plane
2634 The Inner Planes
2630 Faces of Evil: The Fiends

2602 Monstrous Compendium Appendix
2613 Monstrous Compendium Appendix II
2635 Monstrous Compendium Appendix III
The Planescape Sketchbook

Adventures
2601 The Eternal Boundary
2604 Well of Worlds
2605 In the Abyss
2606 The Deva Spark
2608 Fires of Dis
2614 Harbinger House
2619 Something Wild
2626 Doors to the Unknown
2628 The Great Modron March
2629 Faction War
2631 Dead Gods
2632 Tales From the Infinite Staircase
#2

zombiegleemax

Jul 29, 2003 10:40:14 		you're missing the novels and minis for a start
#3

zombiegleemax

Jul 29, 2003 10:49:53 		A complete list of Planescape releases is available here. Still, I have to say that I've never heard of any 'Planescape Conspectus' or 'Planescape Sketchbook'. Could you post some details on these?
#4

Shemeska_the_Marauder

Jul 29, 2003 12:49:50 		The Planescape Sketchbook was an unnofficial folio of Planescape concept art released by one of the artists who did work for Planescape. Not DiTerlizzi, but one of the other artists. It was printed in limited numbers, and good luck finding a copy. If you did I'll buy it from you. ;)

The Planescape Conspectus is available on Ebay periodically, and was just a short overview of the setting. As far as I know it may have just been released as a way to attract more folks to the setting. It seems more a promotional tool than anything else. Had a neat poster though.
#5

primemover003

Jul 29, 2003 14:48:23 		The sketchbook was Dana Knutson's work IIRC, and the conspectus was a posterlike fold out I got in an issue of Dragon.
#6

Shemeska_the_Marauder

Jul 29, 2003 22:33:30 		Ah thats where the conspectus came from, thanks primemover003.
#7

friendlyfiend

Jul 30, 2003 1:12:24 		The conspectus also got included in some of the boxed sets (in Europe at least) - tho' I can't remember off hand which ones. Pretty tho' it may be, it's definitely not an essential for a Planescape collection. Now then what about those Ral Partha minis?
#8

zombiegleemax

Jul 30, 2003 12:50:29 		list of all the Ral Partha minis here;

http://www-2.cs.cmu.edu/~tpope/sol/ral-partha/adnd-planescape.html

oh - and I have pictures of quite a few of these if anyone needs to see...
#9

zombiegleemax

Jul 30, 2003 12:51:33 		I remember getting the conspectus as a batch of TSr related flyers a few years back at a game store. I think they were sent out as promotional aids to game stores. If I remember correctly, they also did a similar thing for Ravenloft, Dark Sun, Birthright, etc.
I'll have to do some digging to see if I still have them all.
#10

zombiegleemax

Jul 30, 2003 13:05:53 		The conspectus was lame and can be had for the overly price of 20+ USD on ebay. Just saw the Dark Sun Conspectus go for 20 something bucks. None of them were worth it, even if each had a map of the game setting. Unless your so in a pinch for a game map that its worth it to you.
#11

manowater989

Jul 30, 2003 15:34:05 		Alright, time for me to chime in, since I started this post. First, to RigorMortis, well, that’s obviously not a complete listing of Planescape products, since I’ve introduced you to 2 that aren’t on there, so you should probably stop referring people to it. And to March2.5, I don’t care if it sucks, if it’s Planescape, I want it. I’m trying to collect all the Planescape stuff. And yes, I know I didn’t include novels or miniatures, right now I’m just trying to get a complete list of rpg gaming materials from the Planescape Setting, which leads me back to my original question, can anyone either think of any more that I might be missing or else confirm the completeness of this list?
#12

zombiegleemax

Jul 30, 2003 16:34:09 		Is it just me, or does this guy come off as unnecessarily hostile in every post?
#13

nightdruid

Jul 30, 2003 17:55:13
Originally posted by Iegan
Is it just me, or does this guy come off as unnecessarily hostile in every post?

Hmmm, you're not the only one.

Anyways, back to the subject at hand. WotC does not have a customer service department for D&D. Heck, I doubt WotC has a customer service department at all. There are less than 10 people working on D&D, period. None of the people that worked on PS currently work at WotC as far as I know. So no, there is likely nobody outside of a fan that can help you make a complete PS products. You could try reaching a CEO or something, but with that attitude, I doubt your letter would make it past a secretary.
#14

manowater989

Jul 30, 2003 20:39:18 		Hey, now come on. That's not fair. I'm not trying to be hostile, well, maybe it might seem that way when you read it, but that's not how I mean it at all. Anyway, I would like to apologize to anyone who I offended, I didn't mean to sound that way. And as for a CEO knowing, I doubt it. They run businesses, not memorize every product their company makes. I figured that probably only a really into-it fan would know, and I was hoping someone on this board might be that fan.
#15

zombiegleemax

Jul 30, 2003 23:25:02
And to March2.5, I don’t care if it sucks, if it’s Planescape, I want it. I’m trying to collect all the Planescape stuff

Woah there bucky. There's a difference between being a collecting fan, and being overly obssessed. Believe me, I know, I collect RPG games and material myself (still bumming about missing the Factol's War book for PS, the last one I need ;)). I was just pointing out that the conspectus was a flyer, a fold out with only the type of information on it that you would find on the back of the boxed sets and a sample map that is about as usefull as a sketch drawing on used toilet paper if you already have any maps of Planescape. I've yet to see a conspectus go for less than 20 bucks on auction because most bidders don't realize its a sham, a free fold out promo flyer. I understand the enthusiasm about collecting 'everything', but trust me, this is akin to collecting a magazine about Gardening that happen to have an advertisement about Planescape.
#16

wyvern76

Jul 31, 2003 4:56:12
Originally posted by Manowater989
Alright, time for me to chime in, since I started this post. First, to RigorMortis, well, that’s obviously not a complete listing of Planescape products, since I’ve introduced you to 2 that aren’t on there, so you should probably stop referring people to it. And to March2.5, I don’t care if it sucks, if it’s Planescape, I want it. I’m trying to collect all the Planescape stuff. And yes, I know I didn’t include novels or miniatures, right now I’m just trying to get a complete list of rpg gaming materials from the Planescape Setting, which leads me back to my original question, can anyone either think of any more that I might be missing or else confirm the completeness of this list?

If it's only gaming materials that you care about, why are you making such a big deal out of the Planescape Sketchbook and Conspectus? One is an art book and the other is a promotional handout. If the list rigor_mortis linked to is identical to your list except for those two items, then I'd say it's a fair bet that you've got the complete list. 'Kay?

Wyvern
#17

manowater989

Aug 01, 2003 14:59:12 		So, does that mean you guys think this is the whole list? I mean was there ever and is there still a verified "official list"? And if there isn't, is there at least a verifiable unofficial list?
#18

zombiegleemax

Aug 01, 2003 15:23:19 		Yes, that is the entire list as far as anyone knows, verified with my own PS collection that is only missing Faction War and the rather poor novel trilogy
#19

zombiegleemax

Aug 02, 2003 19:29:57
Originally posted by Mach2.5
Yes, that is the entire list as far as anyone knows, verified with my own PS collection that is only missing Faction War and the rather poor novel trilogy

You are missing Faction War? They have like 2 copies of that at one of my FLGS.
#20

realmaster

Aug 03, 2003 22:57:48 		just happen across this thread but maybe THIS link has something you might have missed in your expedition for the complete PS world.
#21

zombiegleemax

Aug 03, 2003 23:48:46
You are missing Faction War?

*sniffle*
#22

zombiegleemax

Aug 04, 2003 10:53:22 		Faction War is currently on Ebay going for $9.99.
#23

solomani

Oct 31, 2003 7:39:13 		I got the conspectus for 9$ US.

Here is the list of stuff I built and I work off for collection purposes;

Boxed Sets
2600 Planescape Campaign Setting
2603 Planes of Chaos
2607 Planes of Law
2615 Planes of Conflict
2610 Player's Primer to the Outlands
2621 Hellbound: The Blood War

Monstrous Compendium Appendices
2602 MC: Planescape Appendix I
2613 MC: Planescape Appendix II
2635 MC: Planescape Appendix III

Accessories
2609 In The Cage: A Guide to Sigil
2611 The Factol's Manifesto
2620 The Planewalker's Handbook
2623 On Hallowed Ground
2624 Uncaged: Faces of Sigil
2625 A Guide to the Astral Plane
2630 Faces of Evil: the Fiends
2633 A Guide to the Ethereal Plane
2634 The Inner Planes

Modules
2601 The Eternal Boundary
2604 The Well of Worlds
2605 In the Abyss
2606 The Deva Spark
2608 Fires of Dis
2614 Harbinger House
2619 Something Wild
2626 Doors to the Unknown
2628 The Great Modron March
2629 Faction War
2631 Dead Gods
2632 Tales From the Infinite Staircase
TSR JAM 1999

Novels
2627 Pages of Pain
Blood Wars Trilogy: Book 1: Blood Hostages by J. Robert King
Blood Wars Trilogy: Book 2: Abyssal Warriors by J. Robert King
Blood Wars Trilogy: Book 3: Planar Powers by J. Robert King

PC
Torment (Novel)
Torment (PC Game)
Torment Strategy Guide

Blood Wars Card Game (600 in total)
1128 Blood Wars DUEL-DECK Card Game
1130 Blood Wars Escalation Pack 1: Rebels & Reinforcements
1131 Blood Wars Escalation Pack 2: Factols & Factions
1132 Blood Wars Escalation Pack 3: Powers & Proxies
1140 Blood Wars Warlord's Tactical Manual
Planescape Uncut Bloodwar Cards

Miscellaneous
Dungeon 55 Umbra Christopher Perkins AD&D PS 6-9
Dungeon 60 Nemesis Christopher Perkins AD&D PS 7-12
Dragon 203
Dragon 204
Dragon 205
Dragon 208
Dragon 213
Dragon 216
Dragon 219
Dragon 221
Dragon 223
Dragon 229
Dragon 230
Dragon 231
Dragon 232
Dragon 233
Dragon 234
Dragon 235
Faction Pins
Faction Stickers
Planescape Conspectus
Planescape Sketchbook

Ral Partha Miniatures
Blister Pack
11-600 Factol of the Mercykillers (1)
11-601 Factol Ambar, Believers of the Source (1)
11-602 Factol Lhar of the Bleak Cabal (1)
11-603 Factol Darius of the Singers (1)
11-604 Lei Kung, Chinese Power of Law (1)
11-605 Thor, Norse Power of Chaos (1)
11-606 Factol Koran of the Chaos Men (1)
11-607 Mask (1)
11-608 Freya (1)
11-609 A'kin (1)
11-610 Estavan (1)
11-611 Kylie (1)
11-612 Shemeska and Colcook (2)
11-613 Cirily (1)
11-614 Djek O Narr (1)
11-615 Fell (1)
11-616 Jemorille the Exile (1)
11-617 O' Sly O' Nye (1)
11-618 Parakk the Rat Catcher (1)
11-619 Alluvius Ruskin (1)
11-620 Transcendent Order (2)
11-621 Xaositects (2)
11-622 Free League Bariaur (Male and Female) (2)
11-623 Mercykillers (Male and Female) (2)
11-624 Anarchists of the Revolutionary League (2)
11-625 Incantifers (2)
11-626 Aasimer (2)
11-627 The O' us O' (cranial rat swarm) (1)
11-628 - 11-639 Unknown
11-640 Greater Gelugon (1)
11-641 Aasimon Solar (1)
11-642 Tanar'ri Succubus (1)
11-643 Erinye (1)
11-644 Armanites (2)
11-645 Hamatula (3)
11-646 Marut (1)
11-647 Cornugon (1)
11-648 Pit Fiend (1)
11-649 Chasme (1)
11-650 Elemental Vermin (5)
11-651 Dretch (3 individuals and 1 stack of 3) (4)
11-652 Molydeus (1)
11-653 Maralith (1)
11-654 Barbazu (4)
11-655 Black Abishai (2)
11-656 Doom Guard (2)

Planescape Box Sets
10-519 Planescape Miniatures
10-520 Planescape: Powers of Chaos
10-521 Planescape: Powers of Law
10-522 Planescape: Powers of Conflict
#24

primemover003

Oct 31, 2003 14:59:33 		Now that is a complete list! I didn't realize there were so many mini's. I've got Pentar and Ely Cromlich, but I would love to get my hands on... well damn near all of 'em.

I don't know why you're saying the conspectus is crap? It's actually pretty well put together. Sure it's not as detailed as a lot of the in box maps, but it is visually stunning to look at. Don't knock the little things. The Devil's in the details (or as a planewalker might say, "the Pit Fiend's in the Particulars.")
#25

Shemeska_the_Marauder

Oct 31, 2003 15:03:48 		Unless you can get the conspectus CHEAP don't bother. If I remember right here, and I'm not definate on it, the conspectus was well, free originally. Either promotional material or bundled with something else or distributed for free in gaming stores.

*shrugs* I wouldn't pay for it, however if anyone EVER managed to find a copy of the Planescape concept art sketchbook, I'd sell other peoples' kidneys for it. ;)
#26

zombiegleemax

Oct 31, 2003 16:29:41 		" I could post the list, and sure, another user might know, but WOTC would definitly know, even THOUGH they're not TSR anymore, but would they ever answer?"

Yes, but if they answered, they're representing the company, and if they're representing the company, then they'd be quoted, and if they're going to be quoted, it's got to be official, and if it's got to be official, it's got to go through approval by Legal first, and if it has to do that, it'll take at least 3 months per question...

easier just not to answer J Random Questioners, and only make Huge Approved Responses or to let people just work it out for themselves (which, btw, costs them much less $$).

cynical and jaded, yes, but you know it's the way it works.

eudas
#27

zombiegleemax

Oct 31, 2003 23:31:56 		Mmmmm, demonic mini's.... *drool*
Must have mini's!