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#1
cirathorn
Aug 01, 2003 13:20:35 What were the 2ed rules for DS involving Plane jumping and the cosmology of Athas?

I thought I had all teh books but I gues I was wrong as a friend was trying to tell me the world was open and I was saying it wasn't.
#2
zombiegleemax
Aug 01, 2003 13:27:59 Plane jumping wasn't really allowed in Athas. In 2nd edition cosmology Athas could not be reached since it has the black and the grey surrounding it.

A high level person on Athas could visit the inner planes, the black, or the gray, but going into the ethereal was out. Yes there were a couple of notable exceptions, but it wasn't like other 2nd edition worlds.
#3
cirathorn
Aug 01, 2003 13:28:59 Do you know what book that was from?
#4
zombiegleemax
Aug 01, 2003 13:55:50 Which part of my reply?

Much of this comes from Preserver's and Defiler's of Athas. Some of it comes from City by the Sea of Silt. And some of it comes from Black Spine.
#5
cirathorn
Aug 01, 2003 14:39:56 thats should be good enough, he has all my books anyway so he's gonna have to look it up himself.

I appreciate the help
#6
xlorepdarkhelm_dup
Aug 01, 2003 22:43:39 My own homebrew rendition of Athas still has those restrictions - to the point of I went through, marked the spells that were reliant on certain planes existing to work, as found in Manual of the Planes, but then used some common sense when it came to those, for which ones would still work (the Black in place of the plane of shadow, the Gray in place of the Ethereal and/or Astral plane, for instance). Of course, I don't allow denziens of the Outer Planes to be summoned on Athas, as they are cut off from it - instead of summoning "Celestial" or "Feindish" creatures, I've considered using other templates for Summon Monster (leither Elemental Creature template, or some [undeveloped] home-brew template for creatures that may be native to the Gray or Black... possibly even simply creatures native to Athas in general, claiming that the caster isn't really summoning, as much as forming a creature that they have imagined and formed from the stuff of the Black/Gray - physical beings, but not in reality the creatures they appear as). Planar Ally spells I have banned for my characters until I can retrofit them to work for Athas better.

As far as my Athas goes - there's only inner plane connections (elemental, etc) from the normal cosmology, and of course Dregoth's gate to the Nine Hells (unique portal).

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#1 cirathorn Aug 01, 2003 13:20:35	What were the 2ed rules for DS involving Plane jumping and the cosmology of Athas? I thought I had all teh books but I gues I was wrong as a friend was trying to tell me the world was open and I was saying it wasn't.
#2 zombiegleemax Aug 01, 2003 13:27:59	Plane jumping wasn't really allowed in Athas. In 2nd edition cosmology Athas could not be reached since it has the black and the grey surrounding it. A high level person on Athas could visit the inner planes, the black, or the gray, but going into the ethereal was out. Yes there were a couple of notable exceptions, but it wasn't like other 2nd edition worlds.
#3 cirathorn Aug 01, 2003 13:28:59	Do you know what book that was from?
#4 zombiegleemax Aug 01, 2003 13:55:50	Which part of my reply? Much of this comes from Preserver's and Defiler's of Athas. Some of it comes from City by the Sea of Silt. And some of it comes from Black Spine.
#5 cirathorn Aug 01, 2003 14:39:56	thats should be good enough, he has all my books anyway so he's gonna have to look it up himself. I appreciate the help
#6 xlorepdarkhelm_dup Aug 01, 2003 22:43:39	My own homebrew rendition of Athas still has those restrictions - to the point of I went through, marked the spells that were reliant on certain planes existing to work, as found in Manual of the Planes, but then used some common sense when it came to those, for which ones would still work (the Black in place of the plane of shadow, the Gray in place of the Ethereal and/or Astral plane, for instance). Of course, I don't allow denziens of the Outer Planes to be summoned on Athas, as they are cut off from it - instead of summoning "Celestial" or "Feindish" creatures, I've considered using other templates for Summon Monster (leither Elemental Creature template, or some [undeveloped] home-brew template for creatures that may be native to the Gray or Black... possibly even simply creatures native to Athas in general, claiming that the caster isn't really summoning, as much as forming a creature that they have imagined and formed from the stuff of the Black/Gray - physical beings, but not in reality the creatures they appear as). Planar Ally spells I have banned for my characters until I can retrofit them to work for Athas better. As far as my Athas goes - there's only inner plane connections (elemental, etc) from the normal cosmology, and of course Dregoth's gate to the Nine Hells (unique portal).