DLCS Timeline Errata

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#1

kipper_snifferdoo_02

Aug 05, 2003 14:54:09
Well... I know that this was addressed before the DLCS was printed, but I guess it never got caught in time.

But anyone that has the DLCS, if you view the timeline you will notice that the year 408 AC is listed twice. This actually throws the Timeline off by 2 years as the second 408 AC should have been 410 AC. So the actual Year of the Great Storm, from the War of Souls is 421 AC not 419 AC. The Age of Mortals timeline has the correct years listed for it. In the DLCS basically take every year after (the first) 408 AC and add two years to it.
#2

shugi

Aug 05, 2003 16:42:26
With Kipper's permission, maybe we could hijack this thread into "DLCS Errata"?

Additional errata: there's a half-orc mentioned in the DLCS - replace it with human or half-ogre and we're good to go.
#3

brimstone

Aug 05, 2003 16:45:56
Originally posted by Eidolon
Additional errata: there's a half-orc mentioned in the DLCS - replace it with human or half-ogre and we're good to go.

Oi! How did that one slip under the radar?
#4

kipper_snifferdoo_02

Aug 05, 2003 17:36:20
Originally posted by Brimstone
Oi! How did that one slip under the radar?

Well.. technically it didn't (I believe Andre noticed it) ... but I guess, (like the timeline change) that it just didn't get caught in time before the "seal of approval" was stamped on it.
#5

talinthas

Aug 05, 2003 20:39:24
yeah, there are a bunch of small issues like that. Justinius instead of Justarius is another, and my initial review caught a few more.
#6

Dragonhelm

Aug 05, 2003 22:13:24
Originally posted by talinthas
yeah, there are a bunch of small issues like that. Justinius instead of Justarius is another, and my initial review caught a few more.

Early DL materials used the name Justinius. I'm not sure where that was changed to Justarius.

Sort of like Palanthus/Palanthas. ;)
#7

brimstone

Aug 06, 2003 10:11:44
Originally posted by Kipper Snifferdoo
Well.. technically it didn't (I believe Andre noticed it) ... but I guess, (like the timeline change) that it just didn't get caught in time before the "seal of approval" was stamped on it.

yeah...I kinda gathered that from your first post.

I guess what I meant was...how was it even written in the first place?

I guess, being a DL guy only (with the occasionaly stint into Forgotten Realms, where I don't think I've ever run into an orc anyway) I never even think about it...and would never make the mistake of "half-orc" over "half-ogre." But...I guess if one is more used to the "half-orc" I can see how something like that could get in there.

In what context is it used? Please don't tell me it's Groller...
#8

kipper_snifferdoo_02

Aug 19, 2003 16:33:39
Ok, here is something that might need to be addressed in errata. On page 187 under the description of Storm's Keep it tells how Sir Ausric Krell (the new Death Knight) "forces those he kills to serve him forever as skeletal warriors."

On page 212 it says under the "Create Skeletal Warrior" ability that "a death knight of at least 15 Hit Dice may transform a dead humanoid into a skeletal warrior).

On page 214, under the stats for Sir Ausric Krell he is listed as having 12d12 hit dice. If I'm not mistaken that is three shy of being able to make skeletal warriors himself.
#9

brimstone

Aug 19, 2003 16:46:12
Originally posted by Kipper Snifferdoo
Ok, here is somthing that might need to be addressed in errata. On page 187 under the description of Storm's Keep it tells how Sir Ausric Krell (the new Death Knight) "forces those he kills to serve him forever as skeletal warriors."

On page 212 it says under the "Create Skeletal Warrior" ability that "a death knight of at least 15 Hit Dice may transform a dead humanoid into a skeletal warrior).

On page 214, under the stats for Sir Ausric Krell he is listed as having 12d12 hit dice. If I'm not mistaken that is three shy of being able to make skeletal warriors himself.

Yep...got that one taken care of.

Here's another interesting one (most are just tiny stupid mistakes...but some are interesting enough to mention). In the War of the Lance section...in the write ups of the gods, Solinari, Lunitari, and Nuitari are all mentioned as "walking the world of Ansalon looking for mortals to teach their magic too." They go on to say, "this is happening during the All-Saints War when the gods of good, evil, and neutrailty are warring over the spirits in the heavens that will one day inhabit the earth." (paraphrased, of course). LOL! Little contradictory, eh? Not to mention, the three gods of magic weren't even born until after the All-Saints War anyway...as a sort of peace offereint between warring factions. :D

Another interesting one is the description of the Age of Starbirth (the first paragraph). Yeah...oops. ;)

And my personal favorite...the 200 mile long Schallsea Island. heh heh Well...it was 200 miles long on the old SAGA scale...but not the "new" one.

But...really, most of the mistakes I've found/recorded have been of the typo/mis-type kind of mistakes. All in all...not too shaby...considering the number of authors and the use of WotC editors that are probably not as versed with DL as most of the authors are and wouldn't catch little subtlties like "half-orc" or the use of "Justinius" or the use/mis-use/confusion of "Ariakas/Ariakan."

Okay...I know I'm making it look like alot...but really, it's not as bad as I'm making it out to be.
#10

brimstone

Aug 19, 2003 16:52:34
Originally posted by Kipper Snifferdoo
On page 214, under the stats for Sir Ausric Krell he is listed as having 12d12 hit dice. If I'm not mistaken that is three shy of being able to make skeletal warriors himself.

Oh...and this kinda screws with the example given for a Skelletal Warrior, the minotaur...Gamesh (or whatever it was).

Anyway...it said he was turned by Lord Krell. Heh heh...oops.

At first I thought that maybe Lord Krell didn't get enough HD, but after looking it over, I think they gave him the right amount, because his powerword and symbol powers match a 12HD Death Knight. Also, there is no mention of the ability to Raise Skelletal Warrior in his write up.

So...it must be mistakes in the other write ups...not Lord Krell's. Of course...one could remedy all of this by giving Lord Krell 3 more levels of Knight of the Lily.
#11

rosisha

Aug 19, 2003 18:00:20
Knights of the Lily are the Grey Robes right? The evil SOB's that do not follow Nuitari?! HOW DARE THEY CLAIM MAGICAL POWER! GRR

Rosisha, a loyal follower of Lunitari
#12

brimstone

Aug 19, 2003 18:06:51
Originally posted by Rosisha
Knights of the Lily are the Grey Robes right? The evil SOB's that do not follow Nuitari?! HOW DARE THEY CLAIM MAGICAL POWER! GRR

Rosisha, a loyal follower of Lunitari

Calm down there loyal follower...

Knights of the Lily are the fighters. Knights of the Skull are the clerics, and Knights of the Thorn are the wizards.
#13

rosisha

Aug 19, 2003 18:13:01
Oh thats right. The THORN! Cause they are a thorn in the side of good society. Now what did I do with that fireball??? I had it around here somewhere...

Rosisha, hoping to beat up some Knights of the Thorn when the DL campaign starts up in a month!!!!
#14

carteeg

Aug 19, 2003 18:49:52
I'm still trying to figure out how Nuitari and Zeboim are twins when Nuitari was conceived a LONG time after Zeboim's birth. Personally, I think that would sprain something on Sargonnas and/or Takhisis.
#15

brimstone

Aug 20, 2003 12:12:00
Originally posted by carteeg
I'm still trying to figure out how Nuitari and Zeboim are twins when Nuitari was conceived a LONG time after Zeboim's birth. Personally, I think that would sprain something on Sargonnas and/or Takhisis.

Shoot, I missed that reference.

Got a page number for me, carteeg?
#16

talinthas

Aug 21, 2003 1:53:45
also to note for age of mortals. Somehow, neither palin nor dalamar have alignments...
#17

Los_Grak

Aug 21, 2003 7:37:09
Isn't Dalamar Lawful Evil or Neutral Evil? I can't remember, but I know it's not Chaotic Evil. And as for Palin, I believe he was Neutral Good, right?
#18

cam_banks

Aug 21, 2003 8:15:14
Originally posted by talinthas
also to note for age of mortals. Somehow, neither palin nor dalamar have alignments...

All will be made good in reprints...

Cheers,
Cam
#19

brimstone

Aug 21, 2003 10:17:30
Originally posted by Brimstone
Shoot, I missed that reference.

Got a page number for me, carteeg?

Nevermind, I found it.

Well...my errata is done. 89 entries! Whew! It's alot more than I had hoped there'd be...but at least it's thorough. heh heh
#20

kipper_snifferdoo_02

Aug 21, 2003 15:04:29
Congrats Tobin! At least it's not 89 pages.
#21

randpc

Aug 21, 2003 15:29:05
Originally posted by Brimstone
Nevermind, I found it.

Well...my errata is done. 89 entries! Whew! It's alot more than I had hoped there'd be...but at least it's thorough. heh heh

Do you plan to make the liost of errata available online?
#22

brimstone

Aug 21, 2003 16:19:22
Originally posted by RandPC
Do you plan to make the liost of errata available online?

Yep...I've already submitted it to the WC for approval to the Nexus. We'll have to wait and see what they say.

Oh...and thanks, Kip!
#23

carteeg

Aug 21, 2003 16:48:21
So how is the errata correcting the twin issue? Stating they're not twins, or is Nuitari actually older than the other two cousins?

[Sorry for the delay in my seeing your question for the page numbers. Got sent to the hospital today. Kidney stones suck.]
#24

brimstone

Aug 21, 2003 16:57:04
Originally posted by carteeg
So how is the errata correcting the twin issue? Stating they're not twins, or is Nuitari actually older than the other two cousins?

[Sorry for the delay in my seeing your question for the page numbers. Got sent to the hospital today. Kidney stones suck.]

Zeboim is older.

According to this latest and greatest version of the Iconochronos, Zeboim is born after the All-Dragons War, when most of the intermediate gods are born. Nuitari is born later, which is at the same time as Solinari and Lunitari at the close of the Age of Starbirth, after the All-Saints War...as a sort of "peace offereing" or "vow" to never make war again...yeah that lasts long. LOL!

Anyway...no, they are not twins.

Oh, man, sorry to hear about the kidney stones...that sucks. :sad: But, no worries mate, got it all taken care of. (I did some double reading on the other gods to make sure I didn't miss any other references like that...the only twins are Kiri-Jolith and Habbakuk).
#25

zombiegleemax

Aug 21, 2003 18:40:14
I take it that the name of the Owner is Laura Majere right? and that this is a typo? Or did they sell the Inn to someone with a similar name (Says Mahere). Sorry, just trying to bring myself up to speed with the AoM setting -finding what is familiar from the War of the Lance and going from there...


Arandur
#26

zombiegleemax

Aug 21, 2003 20:33:19
Speaking of Solace in the DLCS on pg 140, it has 3 sites each listed as no# 5 - Town Square, Stephen's Grocery & Academy Ruins.
#27

iltharanos

Aug 22, 2003 2:46:57
You'd figure that Haven, the largest city in Abanasinia, would be on one of the maps, but it's not. Oh well. ;)