would this stunt their ability to further progress ?
Magic may work differently as well. One way to look at it is that either the Dark Sun understanding of magic only works on Dark Sun or magic in universal and preserver/defiler magic will work just has well in Ravenloft (it is just a different kind of magic).
Also, Avangions would probably develop a reality wrinkle, but cannot perform power rituals.
And, of course, the local Dark Lord would come to kick you back through the gray and into the sand.
Due to the interference of Thok-An, a templar/psionist who was deeply in, love with the sorcerer king, the city is now that of a ghost.
Kalid was using his spheres to ascend to Dragon, in an attempt to skip the beastial stages. Unfortuantely, Thok-An, divining what the dragons were, decided to aid her love, and slaughtered her entire family on the top of the Ziggurat. The resulting mixture turned Kalid into a beastial dragon, and drained the life force out of everyone in the city.
Except Thok-An, and the Mists took her.
When she pried herself from the ruins of the Ziggurat, there were a few survivors, and those from outlying areas began to move towards the city to gather and attempt to survive. Kalidnay is now on a plateau surrounded by an ocean of silt, which is inturn surrounded by the Mists.
There is only one settlement that grows food, several days away. These people are all slaves and are ruthlessly oppressed. There are no wild plants or animals except in that area, and there is an utter lack of Thri-Keen (though they would be simple to add in).
Weeks after the disaster, Thok-An's crwe discovered Kalid's body under the rubble. The Sorcerer-King was alive and still human looking, but in complete catatonia. Nothing Thok-An has been able to do has even made him stir.
So she rules in his name, claiming that he is still awake. In truth, he lies on a bier underneath the gladiator arena, where his automatically drains the life of the dying. If it were not for the games, his defiler nature would turn the plateau to ash.
As for Thok-An, her love is finally hers and hers alone. Yet, she is utterly alone. To make matters worse, she is afraid that, should Kalid ever wake up, she will lose him forever... probably due to his demanding her death.
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Anyway, if you aren't using the Ravenloft setting, maybe Thok-An's domain is actually lost in the Gray, as a result of her meddling.
The revised versions of both Ravenloft and Dark Sun had Kalidnay ruled originally by the Sorcerer King Kalid-Ma, and his head templar did the same thing out of love for him.
Who knows if the 3e Ravenloft team kept this realm.
I must also say that I'm not really certain how well an Athasian character would do in other realms. They would either be overpowered, underpowered, or just so socially out of it the focus would be on how the character would exist in the society rather than the plot that the DM has prepared. But that's just my view, if you and your players are having fun, more power to ya'.
I would think an Avangion would be very powerful in Ravenloft, since to my knowledge, wizards there can only advance to 20th level and they do not have Psionic Enhancements nor the innate abilities of an Avangion. Unless there is some sort of undead being they can become when they reach 20th level. I know little about Ravenloft so is an Avangion the most powerful being in Ravenloft?
Originally posted by Ral of Tyr
I know little about Ravenloft so is an Avangion the most powerful being in Ravenloft?
No, the Dark Powers are. The Dark Powers are unknowable entities who created the Realms of Dread from scratch, forming sort of extraplanar prision cells for evil creatures across the planes. They've even held demigod's (Vecna) captive.
Also, since they twist magic, the Avangion would lose quite a lot of power... and depending on where he has been dumped, the Dark Powers might let something happen, like having his memories altered by the land of Darkon. The will of the Dark Powers always overrides any other rules. But they would never get involved unless the avangion began to make a pain of himself.
Originally posted by Quarion
Who knows if the 3e Ravenloft team kept this realm.
I do, and like I said in the message above yours, they were forced to remove it, just like any other reference in any of Ravenloft's dutchies to other gaming worlds that are not Greyhawk or Forgotten Realms. For example - Sithicus is no longer ruled by Lord Soth from Dragonlance, he was thrown out, and the people are "afraid to even mention his name in fear that he might return and exact vengeance on them all".
I must also say that I'm not really certain how well an Athasian character would do in other realms. They would either be overpowered, underpowered, or just so socially out of it the focus would be on how the character would exist in the society rather than the plot that the DM has prepared. But that's just my view, if you and your players are having fun, more power to ya'.
Actually, while DS is different than other games, the characters would not be overpowered - as the DS3 team has to keep all the classes & races balanced with the rest of d20. And either way, Ravenloft is hardly a place where DS characters would be overpowered - Defilers get screwed with heavily by the Dark Powers simply by virtue of them casting even a 0-level spell too frequently (the act of defiling attracts their attention like moths to a flame), and they rather quickly become permanently trapped NPC residents of their own dutchy shortly. Avangions, I'd figure, would be anathema to the dark powers or the darklord of whatever realm it is in, and either woulc be booted out or killed (most darklords kinda know when someone enters their realm, and what they are, two of them knows where everyone is in their realms.
Sure, the Avangion would be higher-level, and more powerful than a ruling darklord (except maybe for Azalin Rex, in his power enhancement room - which I ruled for my games grants him every [non-epic] metamagic feat applied to all his spells for free while inside the room after he reverts back to a living being). And even Strahd is powerful & cunning enough to probably be able to kill an Avangion. Of course, the dark powers wouldn't let anyone who could actually prove to be a threat to their pet projects (darklords) anyway, and most likely either eject the Avangion out of their realm, or kick on a full-out tempting process to drag the Avangion straight down to defile & pulled into becoming a dragon, which then would most likely get it's own dutchy.