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Different factions of KoS question

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#1
zombiegleemax
Aug 14, 2003 17:43:29 Please explain something to me. It's been years since I read DL novels, and I don't have the DLCS. The Knights of Solamnia are divided into three parts: Knights of the Crown, Knights of the Sword, and Knights of the Rose. Now my question is, is one faction "higher" in status than the other? As in, is a Knight of the Rose higher than a Knight of the Crown? If so, does that mean that the lowest rank Knight of the Rose is superior in command compared to the highest ranking Knight of the Crown? How exactly does this all work out? And lastly, can someone theoretically become a Knight of the Rose right away, without "completing" his duty as the lower knight factions?
#2
harakiri_battosai
Aug 14, 2003 17:51:43 Its a tiered system, you must be a Crown Knight to become a Sword Knight, etc. And credence is generally given to higher orders as many knights take it in progression, but there are very influential men who remain to master the lower orders. Jimbo Uth-Blahblah, newly fledged Rose Knight shoudln't be thumbing his nose at Steve the High Warrior, master of the Knights of the Crown. Despite Jimbo being a different tier of duty, Steve has proven himself for much longer and garnered far more respect.
#3
zombiegleemax
Aug 14, 2003 17:51:57 I believe that the Knights of the Crown are the 'lowest' of the Orders being the rank and file of the Solamnic Knighthood.

Then comes the Knights of the Sword followed closely by the Knights of the Rose.

As to proceeding to a Knight of the Rose, I think you have to proceed through the Order as they are vital to teaching and preparing you for the responsibilities and commitments of the next level.

Arandur
#4
zombiegleemax
Aug 14, 2003 18:20:31 So that means that you don't have to "finish" your service as a Knight of the Sword, before you can become a Knight of the Rose, correct?

What exactly was Sturm's title in the novels?
#5
zombiegleemax
Aug 14, 2003 18:29:48 Actually I thought you did have to complete at least the Knight of the Crown component, then the KNight of the Sword followed by the KNight of the Rose.

For most of the books Sturm wasn't a knight, it was something he aspired to become. I believe he either became a KNight of the Crown shortly before his death or became a candidate to become a knight.

Arandur
#6
zombiegleemax
Aug 14, 2003 18:48:04 The rules in the DLCS say, that you must have at least one level of the "lower" order to become Knight of the "higher" order.
Krown->Sword->Rose
#7
B-naa
Aug 14, 2003 19:36:03 If I recall correctly, Sturm was officially allowed to enter into the Order of Crown. When Laurana's testimony cleared him of the charges that Derek had brought against him.

He underwent the Ceremony that officially marked Knighthood, shortly before the Knights led by Derek attempted to break the seige by directly attacking the Dragon Armies. Though Sturm had wisely decided to disobey orders, and keep the Knights of the Crown (whom he was placed in charge of) inside the tower.

For most of the books though Sturm was considered a Squire.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 zombiegleemax Aug 14, 2003 17:43:29	Please explain something to me. It's been years since I read DL novels, and I don't have the DLCS. The Knights of Solamnia are divided into three parts: Knights of the Crown, Knights of the Sword, and Knights of the Rose. Now my question is, is one faction "higher" in status than the other? As in, is a Knight of the Rose higher than a Knight of the Crown? If so, does that mean that the lowest rank Knight of the Rose is superior in command compared to the highest ranking Knight of the Crown? How exactly does this all work out? And lastly, can someone theoretically become a Knight of the Rose right away, without "completing" his duty as the lower knight factions?
#2 harakiri_battosai Aug 14, 2003 17:51:43	Its a tiered system, you must be a Crown Knight to become a Sword Knight, etc. And credence is generally given to higher orders as many knights take it in progression, but there are very influential men who remain to master the lower orders. Jimbo Uth-Blahblah, newly fledged Rose Knight shoudln't be thumbing his nose at Steve the High Warrior, master of the Knights of the Crown. Despite Jimbo being a different tier of duty, Steve has proven himself for much longer and garnered far more respect.
#3 zombiegleemax Aug 14, 2003 17:51:57	I believe that the Knights of the Crown are the 'lowest' of the Orders being the rank and file of the Solamnic Knighthood. Then comes the Knights of the Sword followed closely by the Knights of the Rose. As to proceeding to a Knight of the Rose, I think you have to proceed through the Order as they are vital to teaching and preparing you for the responsibilities and commitments of the next level. Arandur
#4 zombiegleemax Aug 14, 2003 18:20:31	So that means that you don't have to "finish" your service as a Knight of the Sword, before you can become a Knight of the Rose, correct? What exactly was Sturm's title in the novels?
#5 zombiegleemax Aug 14, 2003 18:29:48	Actually I thought you did have to complete at least the Knight of the Crown component, then the KNight of the Sword followed by the KNight of the Rose. For most of the books Sturm wasn't a knight, it was something he aspired to become. I believe he either became a KNight of the Crown shortly before his death or became a candidate to become a knight. Arandur
#6 zombiegleemax Aug 14, 2003 18:48:04	The rules in the DLCS say, that you must have at least one level of the "lower" order to become Knight of the "higher" order. Krown->Sword->Rose
#7 B-naa Aug 14, 2003 19:36:03	If I recall correctly, Sturm was officially allowed to enter into the Order of Crown. When Laurana's testimony cleared him of the charges that Derek had brought against him. He underwent the Ceremony that officially marked Knighthood, shortly before the Knights led by Derek attempted to break the seige by directly attacking the Dragon Armies. Though Sturm had wisely decided to disobey orders, and keep the Knights of the Crown (whom he was placed in charge of) inside the tower. For most of the books though Sturm was considered a Squire.