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#1 ferratus Aug 19, 2003 2:52:15	Originally posted by Cam Banks He doesn't have the breadth of spells that a cleric does, but I wouldn't equate this with flexibility. A mystic character should be designed around his domain, tailored to meet whatever role you intend him to play.
#2 zombiegleemax Aug 19, 2003 5:13:41	I think that a mystic would have a lot of difficulties summoning creatures or monsters, but he could teleport himself to an area he had already been or seen, focusing his powers to create a barrier between him and the attacker, shaping the powers to create a temporary sword, necromancy is ok, the most powerful mystics could maybe create elemental-like creatures with no mind (concentrating fire into the shape of an elemental and then using it) they can charm creatures, deal with emotions, ... my opinion
#3 zombiegleemax Aug 19, 2003 8:58:01	You mention buff spells and things similar to Tenser's Transformation, well ferratus, you have just stumbled upon the bread and butter of the min/maxed (or optimized as some call it with the new board name) melee and archer clerics. You see, with the introduction of the Persistent Spell feat from Tome and Blood, the Character Optimization board crew have noticed that clerics are better fighters than fighters with the right spells. I think that a mystic would be just as good, maybe even better, as they have more spells per day. For those of you that have no idea what I'm talking about, here's an explanation of the b&b spells. Persistent Divine Favor: adds +1/3 lvls luck bonus to attacks and damage Persistent Divine Power: BAB = char level, +6 enhancement bonus to strength and 1 bonus HP per lvl Extended Magic Vestment: makes your armor magical, saves lots of gold Extended Greater Magic Weapon: makes your weapon magical, saves lots of gold Persistent Righteous Might: for melee clerics; increases your size, str, con and natural armor. Extended Spikes: for those with wooden weapons, +1 dmg/lvl up to a max of +10 For an example character,lvl 13, made by myself, click here. Just scroll down to Zirm Letolun. He's from the Realms, but could easily be made almost as powerful in DL. Building upon this, good mystic spells would include the ones that I have listed above and other combat helpers. Flame strike and Blade Barrier are personal favorites of mine. Perhaps spells that let you imbue your weapon with other spells (like letting you make a harm "touch attack" with your greatsword).
#4 Dragonhelm Aug 19, 2003 9:11:25	If I were to design new spells for mystics, I think I would design some centered around nature, living energies, spirits, etc. Another thing one might do is open up spell lists from other classes for the mystic. For example, one of the paths of study at the Citadel of Light is Animism, which is plant and animal magic. Imagine having a mystic utilizing the druid spell list to help gain that feel.
#5 cam_banks Aug 19, 2003 9:27:24	Originally posted by Dragonhelm Another thing one might do is open up spell lists from other classes for the mystic. For example, one of the paths of study at the Citadel of Light is Animism, which is plant and animal magic. Imagine having a mystic utilizing the druid spell list to help gain that feel. The nomad shaman PrC in the Age of Mortals hardcover does exactly that. Once you take the PrC, if you're a mystic, you get your spells from the druid list, not the cleric list. Cheers, Cam
#6 ferratus Aug 19, 2003 13:08:48	Persistant spell eh? Well, that just goes to show how right I am to hate "splat" books. ;) I do think that "Tenser's Transformation" makes an excellent mystic spell for those with the war, destruction or strength domains. After all, you cast a few spells, and then step on to the battlefeild and cry havok. It would certainly fall into the "channeling" sphere under the old SAGA system.
#7 zombiegleemax Aug 19, 2003 19:10:38	Persistent spell is pretty limited actually. First of all, it requires a spell slot FOUR levels higher and secondly, it an only be used on spells with a range of personal. I wonder if there are any DL spells to improve the build even more.

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ferratus

Aug 19, 2003 2:52:15

Originally posted by Cam Banks

He doesn't have the breadth of spells that a cleric does, but I wouldn't equate this with flexibility. A mystic character should be designed around his domain, tailored to meet whatever role you intend him to play.

zombiegleemax

Aug 19, 2003 5:13:41

I think that a mystic would have a lot of difficulties summoning creatures or monsters, but he could teleport himself to an area he had already been or seen, focusing his powers to create a barrier between him and the attacker, shaping the powers to create a temporary sword, necromancy is ok, the most powerful mystics could maybe create elemental-like creatures with no mind (concentrating fire into the shape of an elemental and then using it) they can charm creatures, deal with emotions, ...
my opinion

zombiegleemax

Aug 19, 2003 8:58:01

You mention buff spells and things similar to Tenser's Transformation, well ferratus, you have just stumbled upon the bread and butter of the min/maxed (or optimized as some call it with the new board name) melee and archer clerics.

You see, with the introduction of the Persistent Spell feat from Tome and Blood, the Character Optimization board crew have noticed that clerics are better fighters than fighters with the right spells. I think that a mystic would be just as good, maybe even better, as they have more spells per day.

For those of you that have no idea what I'm talking about, here's an explanation of the b&b spells.

Persistent Divine Favor: adds +1/3 lvls luck bonus to attacks and damage
Persistent Divine Power: BAB = char level, +6 enhancement bonus to strength and 1 bonus HP per lvl
Extended Magic Vestment: makes your armor magical, saves lots of gold
Extended Greater Magic Weapon: makes your weapon magical, saves lots of gold
Persistent Righteous Might: for melee clerics; increases your size, str, con and natural armor.
Extended Spikes: for those with wooden weapons, +1 dmg/lvl up to a max of +10

For an example character,lvl 13, made by myself, click

here. Just scroll down to Zirm Letolun. He's from the Realms, but could easily be made almost as powerful in DL.

Building upon this, good mystic spells would include the ones that I have listed above and other combat helpers. Flame strike and Blade Barrier are personal favorites of mine. Perhaps spells that let you imbue your weapon with other spells (like letting you make a harm "touch attack" with your greatsword).

Dragonhelm

Aug 19, 2003 9:11:25

If I were to design new spells for mystics, I think I would design some centered around nature, living energies, spirits, etc.

Another thing one might do is open up spell lists from other classes for the mystic. For example, one of the paths of study at the Citadel of Light is Animism, which is plant and animal magic. Imagine having a mystic utilizing the druid spell list to help gain that feel.

cam_banks

Aug 19, 2003 9:27:24

Originally posted by Dragonhelm

Another thing one might do is open up spell lists from other classes for the mystic. For example, one of the paths of study at the Citadel of Light is Animism, which is plant and animal magic. Imagine having a mystic utilizing the druid spell list to help gain that feel.

The nomad shaman PrC in the Age of Mortals hardcover does exactly that. Once you take the PrC, if you're a mystic, you get your spells from the druid list, not the cleric list.

Cheers,
Cam

ferratus

Aug 19, 2003 13:08:48

Persistant spell eh? Well, that just goes to show how right I am to hate "splat" books. ;)

I do think that "Tenser's Transformation" makes an excellent mystic spell for those with the war, destruction or strength domains. After all, you cast a few spells, and then step on to the battlefeild and cry havok. It would certainly fall into the "channeling" sphere under the old SAGA system.

zombiegleemax

Aug 19, 2003 19:10:38

Persistent spell is pretty limited actually. First of all, it requires a spell slot FOUR levels higher and secondly, it an only be used on spells with a range of personal. I wonder if there are any DL spells to improve the build even more.