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The return of Blackmoor

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#1
zombiegleemax
Aug 20, 2003 23:14:54 It looks like we'll be able to see Dave Arneson's Blackmoor in the not so distant future. As many of you already know, Blackmoor was the original setting for D&D, predating even Greyhawk by a couple years. Gary Gygax went on to incorporate the setting into Greyhawk, but I'm not sure how www.goodman-games.com will approach this release. Will it be an actual world or merely a microcosm of what was first released in the seventies? Does anyone have the scoop on what it will include?
#2
Halberkill
Aug 21, 2003 12:41:10 Gleaning what I can from Dave Arneson's site, it will be closer to the Blackmoor released under the D&D Basic line:

TSR9172 DA1 Adventures in Blackmoor '86
TSR9175 DA2 Temple of the Frog '86
TSR9191 DA3 City of the Gods '87
TSR9205 DA4 Duchy of Tenh '87

which is almost nothing like the Blackmoor as it appears in Greyhawk, except for a few place names and characters that are carried over.

Halber
#3
zombiegleemax
Aug 21, 2003 19:08:43 Excellent. Modules I had meant to collect but never got round to doing so. I've always wanted to see the Frog temple and the City of the Gods.
#4
zombiegleemax
Aug 23, 2003 21:29:40 Cool. Thirty years of development between two covers. I just hope Arneson really put his all into this because I'm buying it sight unseen.
#5
zombiegleemax
Aug 24, 2003 2:42:20 Any word on a release date? Goodman seems to be dragging their feet on this.
#6
impy_and_chimpy_dup
Aug 24, 2003 8:58:55 For those of you that don't know, Arneson had a stroke a while back. He's recovering nicely but that may have had something to due with the delay.
#7
zombiegleemax
Aug 26, 2003 2:27:56 Shame to hear it. Looks like he has some good people working for him, though. I wonder how much this will diverge from the First Fantasy Campaign that he released for Judges Guild(?) back in, what was it, '77?. Man, I'm starting to date myself...
#8
zombiegleemax
Aug 26, 2003 9:56:49 A friend of mine had that boxed set. It was pretty cool, if I remember correctly.
#9
Monteblanco
Aug 26, 2003 22:01:11 I read the Basic D&D modules and I found the setting to be very cool. However, it does not mesh well with Greyhawk and I am doubtful if it will be easy to integrate it in any Greyhawk campaign. Still, I look forward to see it in print.
#10
zombiegleemax
Nov 19, 2003 17:00:22 December is nearly upon us...
#11
grodog
Nov 20, 2003 4:42:43
Originally posted by Blomble Snoutenherder
A friend of mine had that boxed set. It was pretty cool, if I remember correctly.

If you're curious, there's one on eBay right now, cheap too:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3157944824&category=2545
#12
xiphias_dup
Nov 21, 2003 16:30:48 I had read of Arneson's sad misfortune some time back, so I'm wondering if he's had total creative control of the Blackmoor project since then or whether he served in the capacity of a creative consultant. Goodman games has been rather tight-lipped about the whole thing up to know, remarking that Dave was involved in all aspects of the book but not really elaborating beyond that. Anyone have info on this?
#13
zombiegleemax
Nov 26, 2003 5:22:24 I remember reading the same thing(s), except that Arneson was consulting with the writers who were putting it to paper. I think they were working with his hand-written notes, or something to that effect. Don't quote me on that, though. It was a while back. Maybe a year ago.

That said, I hope it turns out well. I'm really looking forward to it. That and the new Dragoneye...
#14
zombiegleemax
Nov 28, 2003 16:43:52 Still no word from Goodman games. Looks like they're gonna miss the Christmas rush...
#15
falconer
Nov 28, 2003 21:14:30 FYI, this book has been ready to go to print for months and months. The holdup is in legal negotiations with WotC. Regards.
#16
zombiegleemax
Nov 29, 2003 17:53:36 I'm a big Balckmoor fan so I'll be excited to see what they came up with. :D
#17
zombiegleemax
Nov 30, 2003 3:55:18 They've bumped it to February.
#18
kelanenprinceofswords
Dec 01, 2003 11:05:13 Perhaps I should have started a new thread for this, but Blackmoor fans might be more knowledgeable regarding the Egg of Coot. Any facts or guesses as to who or what the Egg is?
#19
demetrius_berman
Dec 01, 2003 15:52:31
Originally posted by KelanenPrinceofSwords
Perhaps I should have started a new thread for this, but Blackmoor fans might be more knowledgeable regarding the Egg of Coot. Any facts or guesses as to who or what the Egg is?

The description of the Egg of Coot from Dave Arneson's "First Fantasy Campaign" is online at http://www.dnd.starflung.com/eggocoot.html . Funny stuff.
#20
zombiegleemax
Dec 01, 2003 16:10:47 Funny, yes, and somewhat harsh. Since there always seem to be people "in the know" on these boards, was this just a barb between friends in a competitive business, or was there actual animosity between the two??
It can be read either way.
#21
Monteblanco
Dec 01, 2003 21:16:14 Wouldn't be EGG an acronym for Ernst Gary Gygax? I always thought that it was Arneson joking with his former friend.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 zombiegleemax Aug 20, 2003 23:14:54	It looks like we'll be able to see Dave Arneson's Blackmoor in the not so distant future. As many of you already know, Blackmoor was the original setting for D&D, predating even Greyhawk by a couple years. Gary Gygax went on to incorporate the setting into Greyhawk, but I'm not sure how www.goodman-games.com will approach this release. Will it be an actual world or merely a microcosm of what was first released in the seventies? Does anyone have the scoop on what it will include?
#2 Halberkill Aug 21, 2003 12:41:10	Gleaning what I can from Dave Arneson's site, it will be closer to the Blackmoor released under the D&D Basic line: TSR9172 DA1 Adventures in Blackmoor '86 TSR9175 DA2 Temple of the Frog '86 TSR9191 DA3 City of the Gods '87 TSR9205 DA4 Duchy of Tenh '87 which is almost nothing like the Blackmoor as it appears in Greyhawk, except for a few place names and characters that are carried over. Halber
#3 zombiegleemax Aug 21, 2003 19:08:43	Excellent. Modules I had meant to collect but never got round to doing so. I've always wanted to see the Frog temple and the City of the Gods.
#4 zombiegleemax Aug 23, 2003 21:29:40	Cool. Thirty years of development between two covers. I just hope Arneson really put his all into this because I'm buying it sight unseen.
#5 zombiegleemax Aug 24, 2003 2:42:20	Any word on a release date? Goodman seems to be dragging their feet on this.
#6 impy_and_chimpy_dup Aug 24, 2003 8:58:55	For those of you that don't know, Arneson had a stroke a while back. He's recovering nicely but that may have had something to due with the delay.
#7 zombiegleemax Aug 26, 2003 2:27:56	Shame to hear it. Looks like he has some good people working for him, though. I wonder how much this will diverge from the First Fantasy Campaign that he released for Judges Guild(?) back in, what was it, '77?. Man, I'm starting to date myself...
#8 zombiegleemax Aug 26, 2003 9:56:49	A friend of mine had that boxed set. It was pretty cool, if I remember correctly.
#9 Monteblanco Aug 26, 2003 22:01:11	I read the Basic D&D modules and I found the setting to be very cool. However, it does not mesh well with Greyhawk and I am doubtful if it will be easy to integrate it in any Greyhawk campaign. Still, I look forward to see it in print.
#10 zombiegleemax Nov 19, 2003 17:00:22	December is nearly upon us...
#11 grodog Nov 20, 2003 4:42:43	Originally posted by Blomble Snoutenherder A friend of mine had that boxed set. It was pretty cool, if I remember correctly. If you're curious, there's one on eBay right now, cheap too: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3157944824&category=2545
#12 xiphias_dup Nov 21, 2003 16:30:48	I had read of Arneson's sad misfortune some time back, so I'm wondering if he's had total creative control of the Blackmoor project since then or whether he served in the capacity of a creative consultant. Goodman games has been rather tight-lipped about the whole thing up to know, remarking that Dave was involved in all aspects of the book but not really elaborating beyond that. Anyone have info on this?
#13 zombiegleemax Nov 26, 2003 5:22:24	I remember reading the same thing(s), except that Arneson was consulting with the writers who were putting it to paper. I think they were working with his hand-written notes, or something to that effect. Don't quote me on that, though. It was a while back. Maybe a year ago. That said, I hope it turns out well. I'm really looking forward to it. That and the new Dragoneye...
#14 zombiegleemax Nov 28, 2003 16:43:52	Still no word from Goodman games. Looks like they're gonna miss the Christmas rush...
#15 falconer Nov 28, 2003 21:14:30	FYI, this book has been ready to go to print for months and months. The holdup is in legal negotiations with WotC. Regards.
#16 zombiegleemax Nov 29, 2003 17:53:36	I'm a big Balckmoor fan so I'll be excited to see what they came up with. :D
#17 zombiegleemax Nov 30, 2003 3:55:18	They've bumped it to February.
#18 kelanenprinceofswords Dec 01, 2003 11:05:13	Perhaps I should have started a new thread for this, but Blackmoor fans might be more knowledgeable regarding the Egg of Coot. Any facts or guesses as to who or what the Egg is?
#19 demetrius_berman Dec 01, 2003 15:52:31	Originally posted by KelanenPrinceofSwords Perhaps I should have started a new thread for this, but Blackmoor fans might be more knowledgeable regarding the Egg of Coot. Any facts or guesses as to who or what the Egg is? The description of the Egg of Coot from Dave Arneson's "First Fantasy Campaign" is online at http://www.dnd.starflung.com/eggocoot.html . Funny stuff.
#20 zombiegleemax Dec 01, 2003 16:10:47	Funny, yes, and somewhat harsh. Since there always seem to be people "in the know" on these boards, was this just a barb between friends in a competitive business, or was there actual animosity between the two?? It can be read either way.
#21 Monteblanco Dec 01, 2003 21:16:14	Wouldn't be EGG an acronym for Ernst Gary Gygax? I always thought that it was Arneson joking with his former friend.