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#1
zombiegleemax
Aug 21, 2003 19:25:26 Hi all,

I am going to be running my first Dragonlance campaign for some friends.

Bascially I am after some advice from the DM experts out there. Should allow the Prestige Classes in the 3.5 DMG (such as Mystic Theurge) along with the splat books or just keep it to what is is in the DLCS?

For example one of the players wants to take the Mystic Theurge PrC which I am not too sure about.

Thanks in advance guys,
Cythas
#2
zombiegleemax
Aug 21, 2003 19:40:05 Am I right in that the mystic theurge is both a caster of divine and arcane spells (is that the right one). Personally I guess as a GM I would pretty much allow the PrC from the 3.5 DMG and the 'class books' unless they are specifically tailored for a different gaming world (ie: the Red Wizards of Thay, Disciple of Lolth etc.).

As for the Mystic Theurge though I personally am not too sure. If it's the class I am thinking of he is like a cleric of magic though from my memory of the DLCS, the Gods of Magic do not grant divine favour to clerics, they instead grant their favour through the use of Wizardly Magic. So there might be a conflict between the pantheons since you can't 'worship' two Gods at the same time.

But hey if it works in the game and both you and your players enjoy it the I say go for it!

Arandur
#3
randpc
Aug 21, 2003 20:03:51 I don't see that there is any right or wrong choice in which PrC's to allow, it's very much a matter of personal preference.

Whatever you and your players enjoy is perfectly acceptable to use.

On a personal level I'm pretty open about what PrC are available for players.
If it's in the DLCS then it's immediately acceptable. Similarly I'm allowing all PrC that are in WOTC's class specific books, and the DMG.

The only exceptions to the above are those classes that blatantly contidict what the DLCS says is possible, or belongs to an organization nonexistent in DragonLance.

The Red Wizard of Thay PrC I would disallow, as said organization doesnt exist in Ansalon... it's Forgotten realms specific.
Similarly I would disallow the Mystic Theurge as it contradicts established laws/PC abilities set forth in the DLCS.

The Mystic Theurge requires one to be both an arcane spell caster, and divine spell caster to qualify- in DragonLance the Gods of Magic do not grant divine spells, and one cannot worship multiple gods so it would seem impossible to devise a character capable of casting both divine and arcane spells.

That said, if you/your players like the Mystic Theurge then by all means allow it. In the end everything is up to your own personal discretion- the DLCS is only a guide and a set list of suggestions as to what you should allow.
Anything you dislike can and should be changed to your own preference.
#4
zombiegleemax
Aug 21, 2003 20:06:32 The mystic theurge PrC is, however, an option for Sorcerers/Mystics ;)

Christopher
#5
zombiegleemax
Aug 21, 2003 20:31:23 I totally forgot about the Mystics and Sorcerors (running a pre-Chaos War campaign and they aren't around as yet). Sorry about that Cythas

Arandur
#6
zombiegleemax
Aug 21, 2003 20:32:51 Thanks for your quick replies guys.

Well if the man himself says that a mystic/sorcerer can take the Mystic Theurge PRC then I have to allow it.

My player will be very happy to hear this news.
#7
talinthas
Aug 21, 2003 21:34:59 the man himself? Chris is just a fan like the rest of us. Admittedly, he gets to write books, but still =)
#8
zombiegleemax
Aug 21, 2003 21:40:52 Very true however when my decision is backed up with the guy who's name is on the front of the book it shuts my players up pretty quickly.

I just find it very cool that the people that write the stuff also reply to messages on these boards.
#9
talinthas
Aug 21, 2003 21:43:54 hehe. I totally agree. The first time i met margaret, she had to pry my DLA out of my hands to sign, since i was stunned =)
#10
zombiegleemax
Aug 21, 2003 21:46:27
Originally posted by Cythas
Thanks for your quick replies guys.

Well if the man himself says that a mystic/sorcerer can take the Mystic Theurge PRC then I have to allow it.

My player will be very happy to hear this news.

*laughs!* Well, dunno 'bout all that, 'cuz when it comes down to it, like Tal said, I'm just a fan like everyone else around here

In the end, Jamie and I are fanboys done good... our love of Dragonlance was something that we developed at a young age, and even when both of us got into the game industry, it was something that stuck with us... and now, we're living the dream that we had as kids. We get to play in the same world that we've always loved and we want others to love it like we do.

It's cool to know that there are tons of people out there that love Dragonlance as thoroughly, as we do Like Margaret, we want to continue expanding upon Dragonlance, dispelling the old shadows that have clung to it for many years and reveal the bright and shiny world beneath it. Make even those nay-sayers out there sit up and take notice ;)

Christopher
#11
talinthas
Aug 21, 2003 21:50:11 Chris, if you had any idea how jealous i am of you.... :D

Oh well. If my interview project goes as planned, i'll at least improve my visability in the fanbase =)
#12
iltharanos
Aug 22, 2003 3:02:20
Originally posted by RandPC
I don't see that there is any right or wrong choice in which PrC's to allow, it's very much a matter of personal preference.

Whatever you and your players enjoy is perfectly acceptable to use.

On a personal level I'm pretty open about what PrC are available for players.
If it's in the DLCS then it's immediately acceptable. Similarly I'm allowing all PrC that are in WOTC's class specific books, and the DMG.

The only exceptions to the above are those classes that blatantly contidict what the DLCS says is possible, or belongs to an organization nonexistent in DragonLance.

The Red Wizard of Thay PrC I would disallow, as said organization doesnt exist in Ansalon... it's Forgotten realms specific.

I agree with the Red Wizard PrC being inappropriate for Dragonlance. However, some splat book prestige classes are easily portable to Dragonlance, despite belonging to a non-Krynnish organization.

e.g. Warmasters (from Sword and Fist): Says the organization is based in Furyondy ... just change that to based in Solamnia, or Sancrist, or Neraka, etc.

The Knight Protector of the Great Kingdom (from Sword and Fist): Just change Great Kingdom to Istar and the Knight Protector prestige class can represent the Knights of the Divine Hammer from the new Kingpriest trilogy of novels.
#13
jonesy
Aug 22, 2003 3:14:42 I can't believe I'm posting a link to a thread where I post a link to a thread, but:
http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=66341

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 zombiegleemax Aug 21, 2003 19:25:26	Hi all, I am going to be running my first Dragonlance campaign for some friends. Bascially I am after some advice from the DM experts out there. Should allow the Prestige Classes in the 3.5 DMG (such as Mystic Theurge) along with the splat books or just keep it to what is is in the DLCS? For example one of the players wants to take the Mystic Theurge PrC which I am not too sure about. Thanks in advance guys, Cythas
#2 zombiegleemax Aug 21, 2003 19:40:05	Am I right in that the mystic theurge is both a caster of divine and arcane spells (is that the right one). Personally I guess as a GM I would pretty much allow the PrC from the 3.5 DMG and the 'class books' unless they are specifically tailored for a different gaming world (ie: the Red Wizards of Thay, Disciple of Lolth etc.). As for the Mystic Theurge though I personally am not too sure. If it's the class I am thinking of he is like a cleric of magic though from my memory of the DLCS, the Gods of Magic do not grant divine favour to clerics, they instead grant their favour through the use of Wizardly Magic. So there might be a conflict between the pantheons since you can't 'worship' two Gods at the same time. But hey if it works in the game and both you and your players enjoy it the I say go for it! Arandur
#3 randpc Aug 21, 2003 20:03:51	I don't see that there is any right or wrong choice in which PrC's to allow, it's very much a matter of personal preference. Whatever you and your players enjoy is perfectly acceptable to use. On a personal level I'm pretty open about what PrC are available for players. If it's in the DLCS then it's immediately acceptable. Similarly I'm allowing all PrC that are in WOTC's class specific books, and the DMG. The only exceptions to the above are those classes that blatantly contidict what the DLCS says is possible, or belongs to an organization nonexistent in DragonLance. The Red Wizard of Thay PrC I would disallow, as said organization doesnt exist in Ansalon... it's Forgotten realms specific. Similarly I would disallow the Mystic Theurge as it contradicts established laws/PC abilities set forth in the DLCS. The Mystic Theurge requires one to be both an arcane spell caster, and divine spell caster to qualify- in DragonLance the Gods of Magic do not grant divine spells, and one cannot worship multiple gods so it would seem impossible to devise a character capable of casting both divine and arcane spells. That said, if you/your players like the Mystic Theurge then by all means allow it. In the end everything is up to your own personal discretion- the DLCS is only a guide and a set list of suggestions as to what you should allow. Anything you dislike can and should be changed to your own preference.
#4 zombiegleemax Aug 21, 2003 20:06:32	The mystic theurge PrC is, however, an option for Sorcerers/Mystics ;) Christopher
#5 zombiegleemax Aug 21, 2003 20:31:23	I totally forgot about the Mystics and Sorcerors (running a pre-Chaos War campaign and they aren't around as yet). Sorry about that Cythas Arandur
#6 zombiegleemax Aug 21, 2003 20:32:51	Thanks for your quick replies guys. Well if the man himself says that a mystic/sorcerer can take the Mystic Theurge PRC then I have to allow it. My player will be very happy to hear this news.
#7 talinthas Aug 21, 2003 21:34:59	the man himself? Chris is just a fan like the rest of us. Admittedly, he gets to write books, but still =)
#8 zombiegleemax Aug 21, 2003 21:40:52	Very true however when my decision is backed up with the guy who's name is on the front of the book it shuts my players up pretty quickly. I just find it very cool that the people that write the stuff also reply to messages on these boards.
#9 talinthas Aug 21, 2003 21:43:54	hehe. I totally agree. The first time i met margaret, she had to pry my DLA out of my hands to sign, since i was stunned =)
#10 zombiegleemax Aug 21, 2003 21:46:27	Originally posted by Cythas Thanks for your quick replies guys. Well if the man himself says that a mystic/sorcerer can take the Mystic Theurge PRC then I have to allow it. My player will be very happy to hear this news. laughs! Well, dunno 'bout all that, 'cuz when it comes down to it, like Tal said, I'm just a fan like everyone else around here In the end, Jamie and I are fanboys done good... our love of Dragonlance was something that we developed at a young age, and even when both of us got into the game industry, it was something that stuck with us... and now, we're living the dream that we had as kids. We get to play in the same world that we've always loved and we want others to love it like we do. It's cool to know that there are tons of people out there that love Dragonlance as thoroughly, as we do Like Margaret, we want to continue expanding upon Dragonlance, dispelling the old shadows that have clung to it for many years and reveal the bright and shiny world beneath it. Make even those nay-sayers out there sit up and take notice ;) Christopher
#11 talinthas Aug 21, 2003 21:50:11	Chris, if you had any idea how jealous i am of you.... :D Oh well. If my interview project goes as planned, i'll at least improve my visability in the fanbase =)
#12 iltharanos Aug 22, 2003 3:02:20	Originally posted by RandPC I don't see that there is any right or wrong choice in which PrC's to allow, it's very much a matter of personal preference. Whatever you and your players enjoy is perfectly acceptable to use. On a personal level I'm pretty open about what PrC are available for players. If it's in the DLCS then it's immediately acceptable. Similarly I'm allowing all PrC that are in WOTC's class specific books, and the DMG. The only exceptions to the above are those classes that blatantly contidict what the DLCS says is possible, or belongs to an organization nonexistent in DragonLance. The Red Wizard of Thay PrC I would disallow, as said organization doesnt exist in Ansalon... it's Forgotten realms specific. I agree with the Red Wizard PrC being inappropriate for Dragonlance. However, some splat book prestige classes are easily portable to Dragonlance, despite belonging to a non-Krynnish organization. e.g. Warmasters (from Sword and Fist): Says the organization is based in Furyondy ... just change that to based in Solamnia, or Sancrist, or Neraka, etc. The Knight Protector of the Great Kingdom (from Sword and Fist): Just change Great Kingdom to Istar and the Knight Protector prestige class can represent the Knights of the Divine Hammer from the new Kingpriest trilogy of novels.
#13 jonesy Aug 22, 2003 3:14:42	I can't believe I'm posting a link to a thread where I post a link to a thread, but: http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=66341