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#1 zombiegleemax Aug 21, 2003 20:19:05	From what I've seen, the maps seem to be identicle ('83 was a vinyl wrap?), but as far as the text goes, I don't know what the real differences are, if any. I have the '80 edition, but I'm considering a purachase of the '83 edition, that is, if it has more info of Greyhawk. Any help on this?
#2 zombiegleemax Aug 22, 2003 16:38:20	Surely, there must be a few old-timers like me out there that can answer this one.
#3 samwise Aug 22, 2003 17:42:43	If you mean from the original Folio to the two book boxed set, then there is considerable difference. There is about 4 times the page count in the '83 set. Most is simply gaming background (what the races look like, what they wear, and so forth), but there is about 50% more real history bits in the '83 set.
#4 zombiegleemax Aug 22, 2003 20:40:34	O.K. Now we're getting somewhere. Thanks, Samwise. I'll check it out.
#5 grodog Aug 24, 2003 1:16:45	There are also some subtle differences in the terrain and national descriptions, too. I've never sat down at length to do the hard-core comparison between the folio and the 83 box, but here's some sample differences: Versions of the World of Greyhawk: Have you compared the original 1980 Gazeteer entries vs. the 1983 box set vs. From the Ashes vs. Greyhawk the Adventure Begins vs. the Living Greyhawk Gazetteer? Some interesting changes are revealed when you do, and I don't think that many of the changes were caused by the progression of the campaign storyline: rulers shift level and class, national alignments change, etc. Two teasers: compare the description of the Sulhaut Mountains from the 1980 Folio to the 1983 Guide to see what black-skinned elves suddenly appear in 1983 compare national alignments from the maps in the 1980 Folio and the 1983 Guide to the 1983 Glassography birth tables For similar analytical looks at Greyhawk, see my site :D