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DLCS Mystics and the Miracle spell

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#1
zombiegleemax
Aug 25, 2003 19:47:37 Does anyone have ideas on how one would adjudicate miracle spells cast by mystics? I'm not so much concerned about the non-XP draining parts of the spell, where you use the miracle to duplicate existing spell effects etc, but the higer order application where a cleric normally begs for a deity to intervene directly in the world in some fashion ( creating a tidal wave, raining fire over an enemy city, that sort of thing ). Since mystics draw the power for their spells from within, can they still request these greater spell effects? Or would this be an example of a case where a mystic would have to lobby a deity?

Of course, implicit in the casting of miracle is the knowledge that the deity may or may not permit the desired high-level effect to take place. If mystics can cast this spell to full effect, is there still an element of uncertainty? Or, given that they are their own power source, is the result always guaranteed?
#2
cam_banks
Aug 25, 2003 20:02:08 Good question. Since it can be argued that mystics are drawing on the ambient magic of living energy, that connects and links all life on Krynn, and draws it through them by way of the strength of their own inner faith, you could conjecture that casting miracle is, in some sense, allowing the mystic to briefly open up the floodgates to that power and release it.

A mystic's force of will and his own personal paradigm would dictate what he could accomplish with it, and any failure on the part of the mystic to achieve his results could be reflected in shaken confidence or doubt.

Cheers,
Cam
#3
zombiegleemax
Aug 25, 2003 20:56:35 Ah...so as long as he believes that he can do something, he can do it! Sort of a self-empowerment philosophy of spellcasting.:D
#4
zombiegleemax
Aug 26, 2003 10:55:01 I think the key here that Cam sort of addressed is that one really needs to think of Miracle in a new light when pertaining to mystics. They can cast it, but it's not quite the same thing. It's just like any other spell a mystic can cast, however it's them going the extra mile to produce one whammy of a versatile spell effect. Instead of casting one surefire spell with a single pre-determined effect in mind, the mystic is able to truly test his ability to tap into his own personal reserve of willpower and essentially "create an effect on the fly"...a concept that should sound familiar.

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#1 zombiegleemax Aug 25, 2003 19:47:37	Does anyone have ideas on how one would adjudicate miracle spells cast by mystics? I'm not so much concerned about the non-XP draining parts of the spell, where you use the miracle to duplicate existing spell effects etc, but the higer order application where a cleric normally begs for a deity to intervene directly in the world in some fashion ( creating a tidal wave, raining fire over an enemy city, that sort of thing ). Since mystics draw the power for their spells from within, can they still request these greater spell effects? Or would this be an example of a case where a mystic would have to lobby a deity? Of course, implicit in the casting of miracle is the knowledge that the deity may or may not permit the desired high-level effect to take place. If mystics can cast this spell to full effect, is there still an element of uncertainty? Or, given that they are their own power source, is the result always guaranteed?
#2 cam_banks Aug 25, 2003 20:02:08	Good question. Since it can be argued that mystics are drawing on the ambient magic of living energy, that connects and links all life on Krynn, and draws it through them by way of the strength of their own inner faith, you could conjecture that casting miracle is, in some sense, allowing the mystic to briefly open up the floodgates to that power and release it. A mystic's force of will and his own personal paradigm would dictate what he could accomplish with it, and any failure on the part of the mystic to achieve his results could be reflected in shaken confidence or doubt. Cheers, Cam
#3 zombiegleemax Aug 25, 2003 20:56:35	Ah...so as long as he believes that he can do something, he can do it! Sort of a self-empowerment philosophy of spellcasting.:D
#4 zombiegleemax Aug 26, 2003 10:55:01	I think the key here that Cam sort of addressed is that one really needs to think of Miracle in a new light when pertaining to mystics. They can cast it, but it's not quite the same thing. It's just like any other spell a mystic can cast, however it's them going the extra mile to produce one whammy of a versatile spell effect. Instead of casting one surefire spell with a single pre-determined effect in mind, the mystic is able to truly test his ability to tap into his own personal reserve of willpower and essentially "create an effect on the fly"...a concept that should sound familiar.