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#1 zombiegleemax Sep 06, 2003 15:55:24	Something confuses me, something that never really gets explained well in transition from book to rpg. One of these is wizards casting spells that's far beyond their level. The biggest example of this is Palin's casting of Magius' Light of Truth (or whatever it's called) on Chaos. I seriously doubted that Palin was level 18 by the time they fought Chaos. I was hoping this would be touched on in the DLCS or at least some web articles, but... nope... anyone got an idea of how to handle things like this?
#2 zombiegleemax Sep 06, 2003 17:09:36	Hmm, there used to be something in the Tome of Magic regarding Divine granted spells for priests. They were basically epic type spells that could only be gained for quest purposes. Sort of a one shot deal. Seeing as WoHS get their magic from their Gods/Moons, I don't see a problem with granting one a quest spell assuming it is story driven.
#3 zombiegleemax Sep 06, 2003 17:13:14	But wasn't he weilding the staff of magius? Maybe that has something to do with it...
#4 zombiegleemax Sep 06, 2003 17:55:18	Have you guys ever stopped and thought maybe that the books are not written to follow dnd rules exactly ? Take Ratlin example he had 44hp and beat all the Gods.
#5 zombiegleemax Sep 06, 2003 18:41:27	Originally posted by Insta_AxE_Toast Have you guys ever stopped and thought maybe that the books are not written to follow dnd rules exactly ? Take Ratlin example he had 44hp and beat all the Gods. That's the question though. There will come a time when a player'll wanna do something out of the books, and being told "no because it's jsut a book, not dnd" won't fly.
#6 zombiegleemax Sep 06, 2003 19:55:57	Originally posted by Magus_Extreme Something confuses me, something that never really gets explained well in transition from book to rpg. One of these is wizards casting spells that's far beyond their level. The biggest example of this is Palin's casting of Magius' Light of Truth (or whatever it's called) on Chaos. I seriously doubted that Palin was level 18 by the time they fought Chaos. I was hoping this would be touched on in the DLCS or at least some web articles, but... nope... anyone got an idea of how to handle things like this? Here's two ideas: 1) Palin cast the spell from Magius' spellbook as he would have from a magic scroll, thus allowing him to cast a spell of higher level than he can cast by himself. 2) Same as above except introduce a penalty to even out the spell not disappearing, perhaps caster loses 100 xp per spell level.
#7 zombiegleemax Sep 06, 2003 21:50:04	Been a long time since I've read that book but this is DL...What was the position of the moons? He could have had at least a couple more levels to play around with due to their effects. Also the gods of magic could have used them as conduits for spells that they couldn't possibly cast themselves...perhaps. Even books that are based on a gaming world sometimes have things that aren't easily explained in the rpg aspect. I play SWRPG....there are many things that took 'extra' explaining to figure out how.
#8 daedavias_dup Sep 06, 2003 22:05:46	Originally posted by Richard Connery Here's two ideas: 1) Palin cast the spell from Magius' spellbook as he would have from a magic scroll, thus allowing him to cast a spell of higher level than he can cast by himself. 2) Same as above except introduce a penalty to even out the spell not disappearing, perhaps caster loses 100 xp per spell level. 1) The fact that the book burned away(I think, I can't remember off-hand) also supports this theory. Like Apocalyp$e stated, it probably had something to do with the Staff of Magius. The book even states that it reacts to different wielders and different situations, which means that it possibly could be intelligient. It most likely did a momentary caster level increase, much like the Medallion of the One God does for Mina.
#9 zombiegleemax Sep 06, 2003 23:25:56	What was the position of the moons? Standing next to him
#10 rosisha Sep 07, 2003 8:56:15	And it is quiet clear that if three God's of Magic are standing next to you, and are on your side, you get a +100000000000 to your effective caster level. If you are against them its a negative number. Rosisha
#11 zombiegleemax Sep 07, 2003 10:16:28	Originally posted by Rosisha And it is quiet clear that if three God's of Magic are standing next to you, and are on your side, you get a +100000000000 to your effective caster level. If you are against them its a negative number. Rosisha Raistlin was against them at one time, so the "-100000000000" on his effective caster weren't enough
#12 jonesy Sep 07, 2003 10:27:02	Well it isn't shown in Legends whether Raistlin turned against the gods of magic. He was still ranting about the power of the black moon in Test of the Twins right before he confronted Paladine (and even Takhisis was still alive at the time).
#13 zombiegleemax Sep 07, 2003 11:10:37	In the novels, characters like Rqaistlin and Palin were able to cast any spell thaht the authors thought that they needed to cast at teh time, it has nothing to do with character levels or schools that the Wizard of IGH sOIRCERY HAS ACCESS TO, THOSE ARE FOR dUNGOENS AND dRAGONAS GAME MECHANICS