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#1
zombiegleemax
Sep 07, 2003 19:02:56 Hello everyone! Hope you are enjoying the first few weeks of DL 3.x gaming

I am curious as to what other DL fans believe should be the next sourcebook should follow after the release of the Towers of High Sorcery. Personally I would like to see a sourcebook detailing the play during the Age of Despair, before the War of the Lance. A campaign based around trying to bring hope to the embattled nations of Ansalon could be quite exciting, but new classes would need to be created to replace the powerless divine spellcasters.

So what do fellow DL fans out there think?
#2
zombiegleemax
Sep 07, 2003 20:33:34 I would LOVE to see a book with details on all the Gods. Prestige classes for their clergy (specialty priests, etc...), examples of typical temples (as in maps), details on the hierarchy of their church, myths and legends about them, the works. Those are what I think SHOULD be in a God book, not a bunch of stats. Gods don't need stats, that's why they are Gods.
#3
randpc
Sep 07, 2003 20:38:30 The War of the Lance sourcebook, or a DragonLance Atlas covering both the 4'th and 5'th with plenty of maps.
#4
shugi
Sep 07, 2003 22:29:31 The War of the Lance sourcebook is slated for summer 2004 if I recall correctly, so that might very well be the answer. The only other book(s) that might come out after ToHS is the last of Chris Coyle's DL adventure trilogy.

I agree, a Holy Order of the Stars sourcebook would be useful, and the Atlas is apparently on their list of things to-do. Mind you, they're doing a lot, so this probably wouldn't come out until late '04 or sometime in '05.
#5
zombiegleemax
Sep 08, 2003 0:27:58 A Races of Krynn would rock. Gobbles of kender prestige classes and weapons, among other stuff!
#6
baron_the_curse
Sep 08, 2003 5:08:48 How about a book dedicated to the elves of Krynn? I always wanted a detail book on Qualinesti. Another great book that's needed is one on the knights. A detail guide to the three orders of Knights would be great. Something that would detail each orders history, codes, and more flare by adding maybe a few more prestige classes, magical items, and of course magic for the Thorn Knights.
#7
sweetmeats
Sep 08, 2003 6:31:50 Heres some ideas that I would like to see. For the most part these would cover information on the different ages.

Holy Order of the Stars sourcebook.
Races of Krynn Sourcebook.
A sourcebook for the Qualinesti & Silvanesti elves.
A Thordardin surcebook.
A Minotaur Sourcebook.
Sea Elves Sourcebook.
A reprint and update of "Otherlands."
Taladas Campaign Setting.
Age of Istar sourcebook.

Some city guides would be nice as well.... Tarsis, Palanthus, Sanction, Neraka, Kalamar...etc. Thinking on it closeup regional sourcebooks would be nice as well.

The reason I posted some race specific books is because I'm sure that not everything could be fitted into a single book, so further in-depth race books would be a good idea.
#8
carteeg
Sep 08, 2003 6:32:47 Personally, I'd love to see a book on the Age of Might and another on the Age of Dreams.

The smashed up map of Ansalon we're all used to it still on the cosmic scale very new for Krynn. I'd love to get into the details of the times before the Cataclysm.

Maybe even a separate book on the Third Dragon War. That lasted forty to fifty-ish years and had to had completely altered the landscape (flora/fauna-wise; not shorelines).
#9
zombiegleemax
Sep 08, 2003 7:27:12 I'd love to see a sourcebook detailing the age of might... I've roleplayed the war of the lance, gamed throughout the fifth age, and now I want my third dragon war!

I think it could be new and interesting.
#10
jonesy
Sep 08, 2003 7:56:16 An Age of Might sourcebook would truly be fabulous considering how little we have seen of it. It would be the definite epic dragonlance era. It's also rather interesting in that the further in the 3rd Age you go, the more the good (mainly Istar) become the evil. Imagine playing ogres who wage a guerrilla war alongside Khalkist dwarves against the Istarian legions. :D
#11
zombiegleemax
Sep 08, 2003 9:42:49 I'd like a Holy Orders of the Stars book as well one for my beloved race, The Minotaurs called "Gods amoung men"!
#12
brimstone
Sep 08, 2003 13:12:53 Well...if it's not another Age sourcebook...it seems to me, the next logical step would be a book on the Holy Order of the Stars. Then a book on the Knighthoods (all three of them).

I guess my hope is that the ToHS book will include information on both High Sorcery and Wild Sorcery...an all encompassing book on arcane magic. Then a HOotS (that looks bad.... ) book that encompasses both priestly magic and mysticism...all aspects of Divine Magic. Then a book on the Knighthoods...involving all three, and a detailed description (if not word for word) of their defining "documents." The 5th Age stuff did this really well...but I think that stuff can be used as a foundation...and then built upon...which would be great! The Measure, The Code, and The Legacy.

After that...it's all gravy. :D
#13
zombiegleemax
Sep 08, 2003 13:16:29 I am going to cry if one more person spells divine with a e.
#14
zombiegleemax
Sep 08, 2003 13:19:14 Muhaha, I often spell divine, devine for one of two reasons. Either Im not paying attention or my heinous typing skills takes over.
#15
brimstone
Sep 08, 2003 13:32:10
Originally posted by Hammerhand
Muhaha, I often spell divine, devine for one of two reasons. Either Im not paying attention or my heinous typing skills takes over.

Ah...well, my excuse is that I just can't spell.
#16
cam_banks
Sep 08, 2003 13:44:13
Originally posted by Insta_AxE_Toast
I am going to cry if one more person spells divine with a e.

This from the guy who spells Mishakal "Miskal".

It's easy to make a typo. And you can always blame the school system in the country of your choice.

Cheers,
Cam
#17
zombiegleemax
Sep 08, 2003 13:49:25 Muhahaha, thats so funny. With all the problems in the world lets let spelling errors drop.
#18
dragontooth
Sep 08, 2003 13:58:54 If they made all these source books people are talking about I hope they drop the price!! Cause 40$ is way too much for additional source books
#19
cam_banks
Sep 08, 2003 14:03:04
Originally posted by Dragontooth
If they made all these source books people are talking about I hope they drop the price!! Cause 40$ is way too much for additional source books

Unfortunately this is the way the market seems to be trending. Don't forget, though, that many other d20 publishers put out books which cost the same yet which have black and white interiors.

Cheers,
Cam
#20
jonesy
Sep 08, 2003 14:05:23 And you don't really have to buy all of them, just the ones you think you can't play without (hmm, I guess that means I have to buy all of them, *starts digging deeper into wallet*).
#21
dragontooth
Sep 08, 2003 14:05:27 :D Guess I won't be buying them. :D
#22
zombiegleemax
Sep 08, 2003 14:07:18 Actually with the price of books in general I don't find DnD books over priced. When you have to pay $12 here in Canada for a soft cover book or pay $40 for a hardcover book with graphics.

Its not that bad really except with the fact that as a DL fan I would end up buying most if not all the of DL books while with regular DnD I wouldn't,hehe.
#23
zombiegleemax
Sep 08, 2003 14:19:02
Originally posted by Cam Banks
This from the guy who spells Mishakal "Miskal".

It's easy to make a typo. And you can always blame the school system in the country of your choice.

Cheers,
Cam

Divine is a real word not a fictional name ;)
#24
brimstone
Sep 08, 2003 15:12:04
Originally posted by Insta_AxE_Toast
Divine is a real word not a fictional name

True, but it's an adjective as opposed to a proper noun (fictional or no) so it is more acceptable to spell "divine" wrong than "Mishakal."

#25
zombiegleemax
Sep 09, 2003 21:01:19
Originally posted by Dragontooth
If they made all these source books people are talking about I hope they drop the price!! Cause 40$ is way too much for additional source books

In Australia I had to pay $90.00 for my DLCS. I am only to happy to play a DL campaign but if local stores think they can charge that much for anyother sourcebook (like the future DL releases) I will tell them where they can shove it.
#26
zombiegleemax
Sep 09, 2003 21:10:15 Ouch that is alot. 40 US = 60.76 AUS. I would have paid 65 dollars including tax if I had bought it at a local gaming store (CAD). I am guessing the shipping has to due with part of the cost. And partly due to local gaming stores jacking up the price.

Due to the fact that I ordered off of Amazon.ca I only paid 47(CAD) including tax and shipping.
#27
zombiegleemax
Sep 09, 2003 21:30:38 Where did you buy your book... I payed about $75 australian for mine.

But we have to pay more, as roleplaying is a smaller market down here, so by the time a limited number of books get shipped over here and end up in gaming stores, the price does go up a bit (they won't sell as much, so they charge more per unit).

Which is why we have to be more selective with our books (which, ironically leads to higher prices). This means I won't be getting every sourcebook (I don't run or play dragonlance at the moment, so :-( no money for books). But I will get books with generalist wizards, tinkers and hoopaks in them... put all these in one sourcebook and I'll love you sovereign stone!

Oh yeah, and an Age of Might source. Please :-)
#28
iltharanos
Sep 10, 2003 2:03:18
Originally posted by Cam Banks
Unfortunately this is the way the market seems to be trending. Don't forget, though, that many other d20 publishers put out books which cost the same yet which have black and white interiors.

Cheers,
Cam

Well ...

The DLCS is about $40.00 US and 288 pages. That's about 14 cents per page.

The new Stargate SG-1 campaign book is $50.00 US and a titanic near 500 pages of full-color (pictures from all seasons of the series)! That works out to about 10 cents a page. Not a bad deal.

Then again there are books like the Demonwars campaign setting that is $25.00 US and 127 pages for an average of nearly 20 cents a page. Oh yeah, the interior is all black and white.

So I guess the DLCS is fairly "average" in expensiveness. ;)

As for the actual topic, I'd love to see an Age of Might sourcebook.
#29
cam_banks
Sep 10, 2003 8:34:53
Originally posted by iltharanos
The new Stargate SG-1 campaign book is $50.00 US and a titanic near 500 pages of full-color (pictures from all seasons of the series)! That works out to about 10 cents a page. Not a bad deal.

The new SG-1 RPG is so massive that I seriously worry for anybody who plans on reading through all of it in one sitting.

Cheers,
Cam
#30
brimstone
Sep 10, 2003 10:07:31
Originally posted by Cam Banks
The new SG-1 RPG is so massive that I seriously worry for anybody who plans on reading through all of it in one sitting.

WHOA! There's a Stargate SG-1 RPG!?!?!?!?

I think I just...well, nevermind. OMG that's cool. Well, there's goes another $50.00.
#31
iltharanos
Sep 11, 2003 23:07:37
Originally posted by Cam Banks

The new SG-1 RPG is so massive that I seriously worry for anybody who plans on reading through all of it in one sitting.

Cheers,
Cam

Hehe. I was going to buy it right away, but since this certain gaming store gives you a 20% discount for special ordering RPG games I'd figure I'd order it there, wait a week or two, get my 20% discount, and then spend many days trying to read through the whole 500 pages. :D

Originally posted by Brimstone
WHOA! There's a Stargate SG-1 RPG!?!?!?!?

I think I just...well, nevermind. OMG that's cool. Well, there's goes another $50.00.

Yep, it's d20 and uses the same mechanics as Spycraft. Very cool. Hehe, it's such a big book you could probably give somebody a concussion if you dropped it on their head. :D
#32
ferratus
Sep 11, 2003 23:12:20 If we are going to do "Age" Sourcebooks, I'd rather see the Age of Dreams before any other. That would give for a nice smoothly flowing continuity, without worrying about painting yourself into a corner.

Of course, maybe I'm just a sucker for the Ogre empires.
#33
zombiegleemax
Sep 12, 2003 2:29:44
Originally posted by ferratus
Of course, maybe I'm just a sucker for the Ogre empires.

I think that concept would be very interesting. I had always considered a sourcebook for the Age of Dreams but always feared some terrible 'three race manual'.

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#1 zombiegleemax Sep 07, 2003 19:02:56	Hello everyone! Hope you are enjoying the first few weeks of DL 3.x gaming I am curious as to what other DL fans believe should be the next sourcebook should follow after the release of the Towers of High Sorcery. Personally I would like to see a sourcebook detailing the play during the Age of Despair, before the War of the Lance. A campaign based around trying to bring hope to the embattled nations of Ansalon could be quite exciting, but new classes would need to be created to replace the powerless divine spellcasters. So what do fellow DL fans out there think?
#2 zombiegleemax Sep 07, 2003 20:33:34	I would LOVE to see a book with details on all the Gods. Prestige classes for their clergy (specialty priests, etc...), examples of typical temples (as in maps), details on the hierarchy of their church, myths and legends about them, the works. Those are what I think SHOULD be in a God book, not a bunch of stats. Gods don't need stats, that's why they are Gods.
#3 randpc Sep 07, 2003 20:38:30	The War of the Lance sourcebook, or a DragonLance Atlas covering both the 4'th and 5'th with plenty of maps.
#4 shugi Sep 07, 2003 22:29:31	The War of the Lance sourcebook is slated for summer 2004 if I recall correctly, so that might very well be the answer. The only other book(s) that might come out after ToHS is the last of Chris Coyle's DL adventure trilogy. I agree, a Holy Order of the Stars sourcebook would be useful, and the Atlas is apparently on their list of things to-do. Mind you, they're doing a lot, so this probably wouldn't come out until late '04 or sometime in '05.
#5 zombiegleemax Sep 08, 2003 0:27:58	A Races of Krynn would rock. Gobbles of kender prestige classes and weapons, among other stuff!
#6 baron_the_curse Sep 08, 2003 5:08:48	How about a book dedicated to the elves of Krynn? I always wanted a detail book on Qualinesti. Another great book that's needed is one on the knights. A detail guide to the three orders of Knights would be great. Something that would detail each orders history, codes, and more flare by adding maybe a few more prestige classes, magical items, and of course magic for the Thorn Knights.
#7 sweetmeats Sep 08, 2003 6:31:50	Heres some ideas that I would like to see. For the most part these would cover information on the different ages. Holy Order of the Stars sourcebook. Races of Krynn Sourcebook. A sourcebook for the Qualinesti & Silvanesti elves. A Thordardin surcebook. A Minotaur Sourcebook. Sea Elves Sourcebook. A reprint and update of "Otherlands." Taladas Campaign Setting. Age of Istar sourcebook. Some city guides would be nice as well.... Tarsis, Palanthus, Sanction, Neraka, Kalamar...etc. Thinking on it closeup regional sourcebooks would be nice as well. The reason I posted some race specific books is because I'm sure that not everything could be fitted into a single book, so further in-depth race books would be a good idea.
#8 carteeg Sep 08, 2003 6:32:47	Personally, I'd love to see a book on the Age of Might and another on the Age of Dreams. The smashed up map of Ansalon we're all used to it still on the cosmic scale very new for Krynn. I'd love to get into the details of the times before the Cataclysm. Maybe even a separate book on the Third Dragon War. That lasted forty to fifty-ish years and had to had completely altered the landscape (flora/fauna-wise; not shorelines).
#9 zombiegleemax Sep 08, 2003 7:27:12	I'd love to see a sourcebook detailing the age of might... I've roleplayed the war of the lance, gamed throughout the fifth age, and now I want my third dragon war! I think it could be new and interesting.
#10 jonesy Sep 08, 2003 7:56:16	An Age of Might sourcebook would truly be fabulous considering how little we have seen of it. It would be the definite epic dragonlance era. It's also rather interesting in that the further in the 3rd Age you go, the more the good (mainly Istar) become the evil. Imagine playing ogres who wage a guerrilla war alongside Khalkist dwarves against the Istarian legions. :D
#11 zombiegleemax Sep 08, 2003 9:42:49	I'd like a Holy Orders of the Stars book as well one for my beloved race, The Minotaurs called "Gods amoung men"!
#12 brimstone Sep 08, 2003 13:12:53	Well...if it's not another Age sourcebook...it seems to me, the next logical step would be a book on the Holy Order of the Stars. Then a book on the Knighthoods (all three of them). I guess my hope is that the ToHS book will include information on both High Sorcery and Wild Sorcery...an all encompassing book on arcane magic. Then a HOotS (that looks bad.... ) book that encompasses both priestly magic and mysticism...all aspects of Divine Magic. Then a book on the Knighthoods...involving all three, and a detailed description (if not word for word) of their defining "documents." The 5th Age stuff did this really well...but I think that stuff can be used as a foundation...and then built upon...which would be great! The Measure, The Code, and The Legacy. After that...it's all gravy. :D
#13 zombiegleemax Sep 08, 2003 13:16:29	I am going to cry if one more person spells divine with a e.
#14 zombiegleemax Sep 08, 2003 13:19:14	Muhaha, I often spell divine, devine for one of two reasons. Either Im not paying attention or my heinous typing skills takes over.
#15 brimstone Sep 08, 2003 13:32:10	Originally posted by Hammerhand Muhaha, I often spell divine, devine for one of two reasons. Either Im not paying attention or my heinous typing skills takes over. Ah...well, my excuse is that I just can't spell.
#16 cam_banks Sep 08, 2003 13:44:13	Originally posted by Insta_AxE_Toast I am going to cry if one more person spells divine with a e. This from the guy who spells Mishakal "Miskal". It's easy to make a typo. And you can always blame the school system in the country of your choice. Cheers, Cam
#17 zombiegleemax Sep 08, 2003 13:49:25	Muhahaha, thats so funny. With all the problems in the world lets let spelling errors drop.
#18 dragontooth Sep 08, 2003 13:58:54	If they made all these source books people are talking about I hope they drop the price!! Cause 40$ is way too much for additional source books
#19 cam_banks Sep 08, 2003 14:03:04	Originally posted by Dragontooth If they made all these source books people are talking about I hope they drop the price!! Cause 40$ is way too much for additional source books Unfortunately this is the way the market seems to be trending. Don't forget, though, that many other d20 publishers put out books which cost the same yet which have black and white interiors. Cheers, Cam
#20 jonesy Sep 08, 2003 14:05:23	And you don't really have to buy all of them, just the ones you think you can't play without (hmm, I guess that means I have to buy all of them, starts digging deeper into wallet).
#21 dragontooth Sep 08, 2003 14:05:27	:D Guess I won't be buying them. :D
#22 zombiegleemax Sep 08, 2003 14:07:18	Actually with the price of books in general I don't find DnD books over priced. When you have to pay $12 here in Canada for a soft cover book or pay $40 for a hardcover book with graphics. Its not that bad really except with the fact that as a DL fan I would end up buying most if not all the of DL books while with regular DnD I wouldn't,hehe.
#23 zombiegleemax Sep 08, 2003 14:19:02	Originally posted by Cam Banks This from the guy who spells Mishakal "Miskal". It's easy to make a typo. And you can always blame the school system in the country of your choice. Cheers, Cam Divine is a real word not a fictional name ;)
#24 brimstone Sep 08, 2003 15:12:04	Originally posted by Insta_AxE_Toast Divine is a real word not a fictional name True, but it's an adjective as opposed to a proper noun (fictional or no) so it is more acceptable to spell "divine" wrong than "Mishakal."
#25 zombiegleemax Sep 09, 2003 21:01:19	Originally posted by Dragontooth If they made all these source books people are talking about I hope they drop the price!! Cause 40$ is way too much for additional source books In Australia I had to pay $90.00 for my DLCS. I am only to happy to play a DL campaign but if local stores think they can charge that much for anyother sourcebook (like the future DL releases) I will tell them where they can shove it.
#26 zombiegleemax Sep 09, 2003 21:10:15	Ouch that is alot. 40 US = 60.76 AUS. I would have paid 65 dollars including tax if I had bought it at a local gaming store (CAD). I am guessing the shipping has to due with part of the cost. And partly due to local gaming stores jacking up the price. Due to the fact that I ordered off of Amazon.ca I only paid 47(CAD) including tax and shipping.
#27 zombiegleemax Sep 09, 2003 21:30:38	Where did you buy your book... I payed about $75 australian for mine. But we have to pay more, as roleplaying is a smaller market down here, so by the time a limited number of books get shipped over here and end up in gaming stores, the price does go up a bit (they won't sell as much, so they charge more per unit). Which is why we have to be more selective with our books (which, ironically leads to higher prices). This means I won't be getting every sourcebook (I don't run or play dragonlance at the moment, so :-( no money for books). But I will get books with generalist wizards, tinkers and hoopaks in them... put all these in one sourcebook and I'll love you sovereign stone! Oh yeah, and an Age of Might source. Please :-)
#28 iltharanos Sep 10, 2003 2:03:18	Originally posted by Cam Banks Unfortunately this is the way the market seems to be trending. Don't forget, though, that many other d20 publishers put out books which cost the same yet which have black and white interiors. Cheers, Cam Well ... The DLCS is about $40.00 US and 288 pages. That's about 14 cents per page. The new Stargate SG-1 campaign book is $50.00 US and a titanic near 500 pages of full-color (pictures from all seasons of the series)! That works out to about 10 cents a page. Not a bad deal. Then again there are books like the Demonwars campaign setting that is $25.00 US and 127 pages for an average of nearly 20 cents a page. Oh yeah, the interior is all black and white. So I guess the DLCS is fairly "average" in expensiveness. ;) As for the actual topic, I'd love to see an Age of Might sourcebook.
#29 cam_banks Sep 10, 2003 8:34:53	Originally posted by iltharanos The new Stargate SG-1 campaign book is $50.00 US and a titanic near 500 pages of full-color (pictures from all seasons of the series)! That works out to about 10 cents a page. Not a bad deal. The new SG-1 RPG is so massive that I seriously worry for anybody who plans on reading through all of it in one sitting. Cheers, Cam
#30 brimstone Sep 10, 2003 10:07:31	Originally posted by Cam Banks The new SG-1 RPG is so massive that I seriously worry for anybody who plans on reading through all of it in one sitting. WHOA! There's a Stargate SG-1 RPG!?!?!?!? I think I just...well, nevermind. OMG that's cool. Well, there's goes another $50.00.
#31 iltharanos Sep 11, 2003 23:07:37	Originally posted by Cam Banks The new SG-1 RPG is so massive that I seriously worry for anybody who plans on reading through all of it in one sitting. Cheers, Cam Hehe. I was going to buy it right away, but since this certain gaming store gives you a 20% discount for special ordering RPG games I'd figure I'd order it there, wait a week or two, get my 20% discount, and then spend many days trying to read through the whole 500 pages. :D Originally posted by Brimstone WHOA! There's a Stargate SG-1 RPG!?!?!?!? I think I just...well, nevermind. OMG that's cool. Well, there's goes another $50.00. Yep, it's d20 and uses the same mechanics as Spycraft. Very cool. Hehe, it's such a big book you could probably give somebody a concussion if you dropped it on their head. :D
#32 ferratus Sep 11, 2003 23:12:20	If we are going to do "Age" Sourcebooks, I'd rather see the Age of Dreams before any other. That would give for a nice smoothly flowing continuity, without worrying about painting yourself into a corner. Of course, maybe I'm just a sucker for the Ogre empires.
#33 zombiegleemax Sep 12, 2003 2:29:44	Originally posted by ferratus Of course, maybe I'm just a sucker for the Ogre empires. I think that concept would be very interesting. I had always considered a sourcebook for the Age of Dreams but always feared some terrible 'three race manual'.