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I everyone, I be soon starting a new DL campaign, and I'd liked to have your opinion on something.
After Chaos's defeat, Fizban told Palin that the gods had made a deal with Chaos to leave Krynn if he'd do the same...
At the end of DoaVM and/or in the Campaign setting, we learn that it was Takhisis who was impersonating Fizban...was there a deal with Chaos or not...
At the end of DoSF, Usha managed to catch a drop of Chaos blood within the Graygem trapping Chaos back into the gem.
My intention for my game is to use the Graygem. The gem will be in the tower of Wareth, somwhere realy realy deep, well guarded. I've tought of three way to explain it's location :
#1-The three gods of magic put it there (if they had time to do so, if not they'll use Tas's leap in time with the transportation ability of the tower).
#2-Takhisis put it there herself for safekeeping, and maybe futur use.
#3-The Graygem moved there by itself.
What do you think of this???
#4- Reorx lost it in a game of bones with one of the wizards.
Good one!
Right on caracter!
Arandur
If Chaos gets to come out if the gods don't agree to leave, its not much of a prison now is it? As wild as it is, Takhisis stealing the world immediately after the victory against Chaos makes much more sense than the gods all leaving for fear of a being that is no longer a threat to them.
Originally posted by Baron the Curse
What made Chaos more poweful than the other Greater Deities? It almost seem as if Chaos was as poweful as the High God.
Chaos is beyond Greater God level, much like Ao in Greyhawk (or is Ao in Faerun?). His power is unmeasurable.
Anyway, before the War of Souls, I was under the impression that Chaos had put a LOT of his power into manifesting himself on Krynn...remember those two or three times Takky tried/did? Anyway, I thought that they had imprisoned Chaos's PHYSICAL form, and all the power wrapped up in it, and that the gods dealed with a weaker, more beatable Chaos. Either that, or he was TOTALLY re-imprisoned, and the gods decided to deal with him right then, instead of going through Chaos vs. Everyone Else Round 2, when he inevitably broke loose again.
After reading WoS though...well, I guess that Chaos was trapped, and the gods threw him in a closet or something.
Oh, and, about Summer Flame and the War of Souls...though I DID enjoy them a lot...I was strangely and vaguely disappointed after reading them. They just didn't FEEL like the work I'd come to know and love from the DL team. Raistlin just seemed so...deus ex machina, appearing YET AGAIN to haul the gods collective rears out of the fire, Mina turning from the uber-cool religious fanatic to some psychopathic kinda person (which she did not play very well, in my opinion), the Dark Knight Archer guy just kinda disappearing after Lost Star (yeah, I know, he was put in charge of something or another, but still!), the almost deus ex machina of Paladine coming in with that "I'll turn mortal to turn YOU mortal!" thing that really instead of surprising me into shock and awe made me wonder what the heck was going through their brains, the tale of the creation of the world and everything set down by Paladine at the end, etc. etc. etc...the list just goes on. They were good books. Don't get me wrong. And Fallen Sun and Lost Star were REALLY good books. But...in the end, that's all they were. Just good.
Oh, and...
7) Reorx got drunk and lost it in a game of bones with Lunitari who was disguised as a dwarven mage. But then Takky nicked Krynn. Beat that! : P
Originally posted by Baron the Curse
While I agree that is better to say Takhisis stole the world and impersonated Fizban at the end of the Chaos War (which I don’t buy for one second) can someone tell me who the hell impersonated Raistlin at the end of the Summer of Flame? He did depart with the Gods.
Takhisis. If she can create an image of Fizban, then creating an image of Raistlin at the same time shouldn't be too hard to pull off. Since Takhisis had already stolen the world at that point, it's not as if another God will pop up and admonish Takhisis for image copyright violations.
Here's to hoping there won't be yet another SAGA sucks vs. SAGA doesn't suck debate.
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chaos and the high-god, is chaos not the high-god???
Originally posted by FOXDIE
What made Chaos more poweful than the other Greater Deities?
That's almost like asking what makes a cat stronger than mice. More strength/power.
As for the High God, I don't think that his level of power can even be measured against the other gods. What he wants, happens. And what he wants, no one can be sure of.
Originally posted by talinthas
remember that, before dovm, chaos and the high god were basically the same. two parts of one. father of all and nothing, and all that.
I know that was my perception at the time, but Tracy has said that the two were never meant to be the same.
Originally posted by Baron the Curse
Or that never really happened. Come on, that was never planned from the beginning. It's fair to say Hickman and Weis actually intended to end it that way. That was Fizban and Raist. I would have rather that scene was erased from history rather than claiming it was an impersonation. I personally didn’t like Dragons of Summer Flame. It was a marketing ploy to destroy the world of Krynn, as we know it to prepare it for the coming of the Fifth Age products. Which in turn was just another ploy to sale us the Saga System.
Summer Flame was intended moreso as the end story of DL. At the time, they didn't think it would go on.
Originally posted by jonesy
That's almost like asking what makes a cat stronger than mice. More strength/power.
As for the High God, I don't think that his level of power can even be measured against the other gods. What he wants, happens. And what he wants, no one can be sure of.
No, that’s not like asking that at all. For one, Reorx trapped Chaos once already. Secondly, he was defeated by anarmy of mortals and a Kender. An army of mice has nothing on a single wild cat. So try not to be too patronizing.
Originally posted by Baron the Curse
No, that’s not like asking that at all. For one, Reorx trapped Chaos once already. Secondly, he was defeated by anarmy of mortals and a Kender. An army of mice has nothing on a single wild cat. So try not to be too patronizing.
I didn't try to be patronizing. No, actually slash that. I never try to be patronizing.
Reorx suggested in DoSF that he didn't really trap Chaos, and that Chaos willingly entered Krynn inside the gem so he could wreak havoc on the world.
And it wasn't just an army of mortals and a kender. It was the entire world and its gods fighting against Chaos that drained his powers (and he wasted a lot of it summoning his minions and keeping up the weird weather patterns).
It's not like the other gods ever got upset with Takhisis for trying to take over the world before. And all that stuff. I liked it better when I hadn't read this whole impersonation thing. I was hoping Raistlin was the One God, though. Stupid Takhisis. She ruins everything.
Takhisis impersonated Paladine (Fizban to be exact) so that she could tell Palin that the gods struck a deal and had to leave the world. Thus Palin, Dalamar, Goldmoon, and company wouldn't bother to try and look for them.
FR
than when I read Summer Flame. Seemed wrong
that after having been gone so long and finally
returning to Krynn, the Gods would just up and
leave again, for whatever reason.
Were I on Krynn at this time, I'd be pretty
angry.