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elven chain in DL

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#1
zombiegleemax
Sep 11, 2003 10:25:23 Allright, since Dragon metal takes the place of mithril in dragon lance, is there even such a thing as Elven chain any more? I always got the impression that dragon metal was much rarer in DL then mithril is in other worlds, so I just don't know if there was enough for elves to be making all kinds of armor out of it.

What do you all think?
#2
kalanth
Sep 11, 2003 11:05:48 I have always said that Elven Chain does, in fact, exist in DL. However, I have never awarded a PC with it before. I figured that it was exceptionally rare, and so I am stingy with it.
#3
baron_the_curse
Sep 11, 2003 19:24:43 I dont' see why mithril can't exist in Dragonlance. It's just another rare metal. Is not even FR exclusive, hell it was in Tolkien.
#4
ferratus
Sep 11, 2003 19:52:07 Well, Dragonmetal was my idea, so I'll answer this one. I looked back to DL7 "Dragons of Light" in which Dragonmetal was described, which (when forged) makes weapons with a +1 bonus. I thought, well, this dragonmetal can be used for stuff other than dragonlances right? Thus, you have dragonmetal blades, armour, etc... mostly used by the Solamnics, since they control the Tomb of Huma, where the pool of dragonmetal is located.

So thus, I guess you could say that in Dragonlance, it is "Solamnic chain" rather than "elven chain".
#5
green_giant_02
Sep 11, 2003 20:48:52 Alhana Starbreeze has elven chain mail in her writeup.
#6
zombiegleemax
Sep 13, 2003 23:52:22 The Monument of the Silver Dragon isn't the only place where Dragonmetal can be found...
#7
zombiegleemax
Sep 14, 2003 1:50:06
Originally posted by Apocalyp$e
The Monument of the Silver Dragon isn't the only place where Dragonmetal can be found...

It isn't? I was sure that the campaign setting says otherwise.
#8
zombiegleemax
Sep 14, 2003 4:50:01
Originally posted by The man formerly known as Woza
It isn't? I was sure that the campaign setting says otherwise.

Do you have a page number for that? Because I seem to remember something about the AoM (or was it the DLCS? :confused mentioning that although Dragonmetal is rare, it can be accessed in other places.

In response to the topic at hand, I have replaced mithril with Dragonmetal, IMC. So unless a player specifically begs for an altered version, I will not be using Elven Chain.
#9
zombiegleemax
Sep 14, 2003 8:20:16
Originally posted by Faeryl Zauvirr
Do you have a page number for that? Because I seem to remember something about the AoM (or was it the DLCS? :confused mentioning that although Dragonmetal is rare, it can be accessed in other places.

The DLCS says that it can be found beneath the stone dragon and is a gift from the gods of light. Bad-guys get their hands on it by killing solamnics and stealing their gear. p113.
#10
zombiegleemax
Sep 14, 2003 11:12:03 I believe that AoM details Storm Keep, the retired fortress of the Knights of Neraka as having a spring of Dragonmetal, though getting to it would be quite difficult.
#11
zombiegleemax
Sep 14, 2003 14:42:12 That's right. The armoury in Storm's Keep contains a pool of dragonmetal... and the description for abyssal lances says that there are a few natural wellsprings of dragonmetal in the world...
#12
darthsylver
Sep 14, 2003 22:07:10 As far as elven chain goes, I have never felt that it was magical in nature. I always thought that elven chain got it's name because elves have a different refining process for steel than other races which results in the elves being able to make chain mail lighter than normal.
#13
zombiegleemax
Sep 15, 2003 21:34:37 So would that aplly to everything they make out of steel?
#14
darthsylver
Sep 15, 2003 23:13:43 I do not see why not. It is just that elves are usually defined as being light and graceful, so we rarely hear about elven plate mail.

But if it is the refing process, or even the construction process used by the elves then it would hold that it would apply to plate mail created by elves.

If it is the creation process, perhaps elven chain is lighter because the chains are thinner but just as strong as thicker chain created by humans.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 zombiegleemax Sep 11, 2003 10:25:23	Allright, since Dragon metal takes the place of mithril in dragon lance, is there even such a thing as Elven chain any more? I always got the impression that dragon metal was much rarer in DL then mithril is in other worlds, so I just don't know if there was enough for elves to be making all kinds of armor out of it. What do you all think?
#2 kalanth Sep 11, 2003 11:05:48	I have always said that Elven Chain does, in fact, exist in DL. However, I have never awarded a PC with it before. I figured that it was exceptionally rare, and so I am stingy with it.
#3 baron_the_curse Sep 11, 2003 19:24:43	I dont' see why mithril can't exist in Dragonlance. It's just another rare metal. Is not even FR exclusive, hell it was in Tolkien.
#4 ferratus Sep 11, 2003 19:52:07	Well, Dragonmetal was my idea, so I'll answer this one. I looked back to DL7 "Dragons of Light" in which Dragonmetal was described, which (when forged) makes weapons with a +1 bonus. I thought, well, this dragonmetal can be used for stuff other than dragonlances right? Thus, you have dragonmetal blades, armour, etc... mostly used by the Solamnics, since they control the Tomb of Huma, where the pool of dragonmetal is located. So thus, I guess you could say that in Dragonlance, it is "Solamnic chain" rather than "elven chain".
#5 green_giant_02 Sep 11, 2003 20:48:52	Alhana Starbreeze has elven chain mail in her writeup.
#6 zombiegleemax Sep 13, 2003 23:52:22	The Monument of the Silver Dragon isn't the only place where Dragonmetal can be found...
#7 zombiegleemax Sep 14, 2003 1:50:06	Originally posted by Apocalyp$e The Monument of the Silver Dragon isn't the only place where Dragonmetal can be found... It isn't? I was sure that the campaign setting says otherwise.
#8 zombiegleemax Sep 14, 2003 4:50:01	Originally posted by The man formerly known as Woza It isn't? I was sure that the campaign setting says otherwise. Do you have a page number for that? Because I seem to remember something about the AoM (or was it the DLCS? :confused mentioning that although Dragonmetal is rare, it can be accessed in other places. In response to the topic at hand, I have replaced mithril with Dragonmetal, IMC. So unless a player specifically begs for an altered version, I will not be using Elven Chain.
#9 zombiegleemax Sep 14, 2003 8:20:16	Originally posted by Faeryl Zauvirr Do you have a page number for that? Because I seem to remember something about the AoM (or was it the DLCS? :confused mentioning that although Dragonmetal is rare, it can be accessed in other places. The DLCS says that it can be found beneath the stone dragon and is a gift from the gods of light. Bad-guys get their hands on it by killing solamnics and stealing their gear. p113.
#10 zombiegleemax Sep 14, 2003 11:12:03	I believe that AoM details Storm Keep, the retired fortress of the Knights of Neraka as having a spring of Dragonmetal, though getting to it would be quite difficult.
#11 zombiegleemax Sep 14, 2003 14:42:12	That's right. The armoury in Storm's Keep contains a pool of dragonmetal... and the description for abyssal lances says that there are a few natural wellsprings of dragonmetal in the world...
#12 darthsylver Sep 14, 2003 22:07:10	As far as elven chain goes, I have never felt that it was magical in nature. I always thought that elven chain got it's name because elves have a different refining process for steel than other races which results in the elves being able to make chain mail lighter than normal.
#13 zombiegleemax Sep 15, 2003 21:34:37	So would that aplly to everything they make out of steel?
#14 darthsylver Sep 15, 2003 23:13:43	I do not see why not. It is just that elves are usually defined as being light and graceful, so we rarely hear about elven plate mail. But if it is the refing process, or even the construction process used by the elves then it would hold that it would apply to plate mail created by elves. If it is the creation process, perhaps elven chain is lighter because the chains are thinner but just as strong as thicker chain created by humans.