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#1
zombiegleemax
Sep 13, 2003 15:00:38 There are a bunch of new domains in WotC products such as Defenders of the Faith and the Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting. Of these domains, which do you think fit the world of Krynn? Has there been any official word about which of these domains are appropriate and which of the gods grant them? What about giving mystics more "Mystic only" domains (like letting elven mystics take the Elf domain)?
#2
nevine
Sep 13, 2003 15:05:24 I, personally, will use domains from any of the WotC products that aren't FR specific (or another campaign for that matter). Like I wouldn't slap some DL ones into Forgotten Realms. I'll look over my splatbooks and post back here on who I think has what. I don't think any would be Mystic exclusive (except maybe Mysticism!?), since those domains are based off the "schools" discovered in the 5th Age.

As for official word..I dunno. Maybe Stormprince will grace us with something since he handles spell stuff.
#3
cam_banks
Sep 13, 2003 15:56:09 If you feel a specific domain adds some flavor to your campaign, go ahead and add it - but be aware that new domains were already added to flesh out the pantheons of Krynn, and thus they already have a full complement. Of course, the place where all of those other domains could really shine is the mystic. Indeed, you may feel justified in giving a mystic one of the so-called "prestige domains" from Defenders of the Faith, especially if you are of the opinion that mystics are slightly underpowered compared to clerics.

Also, consider coming up with prestige classes or using existing clerical prestige classes from other sources, and giving them one of these new domains as a bonus ability. That's a good way to introduce them to the campaign without opening them up completely to all clerics of that deity.

Cheers,
Cam
#4
zombiegleemax
Sep 13, 2003 20:46:48 I thought right from the get go that reorx should have had the Metal domain from Fr. It just makes more sence to me than the Forge domain.
#5
cam_banks
Sep 13, 2003 20:49:56
Originally posted by Hammerhand
I thought right from the get go that reorx should have had the Metal domain from Fr. It just makes more sence to me than the Forge domain.

More sense in what way? He is the god of the forge, you know.

Cheers,
Cam
#6
josephkell
Sep 13, 2003 21:15:57 Seems more of a DM call.

I can thing a of a few reasons why Mystics should get a larger list of Domains...

1. There are millions (if not billions) of unique people in the world. While many can be grouped by what is in their hearts, you would still end up with at least a hundred different natures (or Domains). And since Domains for Mystics represent what is within them... more Domain options just fits.

But again, it is a DM call... We are not the Errata makers...

I do not see though why the Gods of Krynn need more domains. Dragonlance, like Forgotten Realms, requires Clerics to have a Deity, so they just use the Domains in the book... Mystics are like their own gods (well Source of Power).
#7
zombiegleemax
Sep 13, 2003 21:44:28 Hehehe I know Reorx is the god of the forge but I see Dwarves as a Militant race as well so with the Metal domain the Dwarven clerics would have a bit of punch as well as crafting skills.

I would see crafting, metal and earth as Reorx's domains.

But thats just how I see the gods that dwarves would follow
#8
zombiegleemax
Sep 13, 2003 23:18:01 The forge domain was created specifically with Reorx in mind... how could the metal domain even compare?
#9
zombiegleemax
Sep 13, 2003 23:20:42 Well, I guess I see it a tad differanty. Just because something was made for him doesn't mean that I prefer it over something else but hey its all good.
#10
Dragonhelm
Sep 14, 2003 0:12:47 Very good topic. I'd like to add a couple of thoughts.

Prestige domains could theoretically work well for the Citadel Mystic. They get a bonus domain, so that would be a good prestige class to use prestige domains for. It would also give the mystic something more to call his own.

You could also theoretically export the mystic to other settings. If you did choose that option, you could designate a certain few domains for mystics only. Imagine, for example, if all nature domains or all elemental domains could only be available for mystics.

Another interesting thought is that only certain races can access certain domains. Perhaps dwarves are the only ones who can access the earth domain.

Anyway, sorry if that wasn't exactly on topic, but I wanted to share my thoughts.
#11
zombiegleemax
Sep 14, 2003 5:08:57 I am strictly sticking to offical Dragonlance materials and the Core Rule Books. I believe that splat books such as Defenders of the Faith (especially Defenders of the Faith) are completely broken. By taking ONE level in the Comtemplative PrC a character can add his charisma bonus to his saves, whilst it takes a long progression through the KoS to achieve the same result.

My players are not prone to min/maxing, but they do compete in power races. I fear that by introducing other materials the 'Dragonlance' feel of my campaign will slowly vanish, as more and more players leave roleplaying and character development (and the aspects that represent that) behind for more powerful brutish characters.
#12
nevine
Sep 14, 2003 12:59:11
Originally posted by Faeryl Zauvirr
I am strictly sticking to offical Dragonlance materials and the Core Rule Books. I believe that splat books such as Defenders of the Faith (especially Defenders of the Faith) are completely broken. By taking ONE level in the Comtemplative PrC a character can add his charisma bonus to his saves, whilst it takes a long progression through the KoS to achieve the same result.

I'm not a big fan of what you're talking about either, but, just to point out.. It's not the fault of the Contemplative itself (which fits the Mystic with it's introspective nature), but that of the Mysticism prestige domain. It's not all that great of a domain to begin with and could be dropped.

Not to mention, at the very least, a PC's first level in Contemplative would be their 11th. character level (that Knowledge [Religion] 13 is a stiff requirement). So, I think if a Knight of Solamnia were able to advance straight through to Rose Knight, they'd have it (Divine Grace) thereabouts as well. Though..a Skull Knight would have had long, long ago with Dark Blessing.
#13
zombiegleemax
Sep 14, 2003 14:54:40 I'll post a list of who should have access to domains from other sources once I finish reading the DLCS in a couple of days.
#14
cam_banks
Sep 14, 2003 19:27:55 I should point out that two of the so-called prestige domains from Defenders of the Faith sourcebook made it into the DLCS as standard domains - Community and Pestilence (for Mishakal and Morgion, respectively). There's a fair bit of sharing between sources on many levels.

Cheers,
Cam
#15
banshee
Sep 14, 2003 20:10:27 Is it just me? I was readin the DLCS, and noticed that Takhisis and Paladine have domains, Evil Dragons, and Good Dragons, which don't appear to be detailed....anywhere.

Have I just flipped by them by accident, or were they missed?

Banshee
#16
cam_banks
Sep 14, 2003 20:29:52
Originally posted by Banshee
Is it just me? I was readin the DLCS, and noticed that Takhisis and Paladine have domains, Evil Dragons, and Good Dragons, which don't appear to be detailed....anywhere.

Have I just flipped by them by accident, or were they missed?

Those aren't domains, those are elements of the deity's portfolio in each case. Domains are those listed on the next line.

Cheers,
Cam

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 zombiegleemax Sep 13, 2003 15:00:38	There are a bunch of new domains in WotC products such as Defenders of the Faith and the Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting. Of these domains, which do you think fit the world of Krynn? Has there been any official word about which of these domains are appropriate and which of the gods grant them? What about giving mystics more "Mystic only" domains (like letting elven mystics take the Elf domain)?
#2 nevine Sep 13, 2003 15:05:24	I, personally, will use domains from any of the WotC products that aren't FR specific (or another campaign for that matter). Like I wouldn't slap some DL ones into Forgotten Realms. I'll look over my splatbooks and post back here on who I think has what. I don't think any would be Mystic exclusive (except maybe Mysticism!?), since those domains are based off the "schools" discovered in the 5th Age. As for official word..I dunno. Maybe Stormprince will grace us with something since he handles spell stuff.
#3 cam_banks Sep 13, 2003 15:56:09	If you feel a specific domain adds some flavor to your campaign, go ahead and add it - but be aware that new domains were already added to flesh out the pantheons of Krynn, and thus they already have a full complement. Of course, the place where all of those other domains could really shine is the mystic. Indeed, you may feel justified in giving a mystic one of the so-called "prestige domains" from Defenders of the Faith, especially if you are of the opinion that mystics are slightly underpowered compared to clerics. Also, consider coming up with prestige classes or using existing clerical prestige classes from other sources, and giving them one of these new domains as a bonus ability. That's a good way to introduce them to the campaign without opening them up completely to all clerics of that deity. Cheers, Cam
#4 zombiegleemax Sep 13, 2003 20:46:48	I thought right from the get go that reorx should have had the Metal domain from Fr. It just makes more sence to me than the Forge domain.
#5 cam_banks Sep 13, 2003 20:49:56	Originally posted by Hammerhand I thought right from the get go that reorx should have had the Metal domain from Fr. It just makes more sence to me than the Forge domain. More sense in what way? He is the god of the forge, you know. Cheers, Cam
#6 josephkell Sep 13, 2003 21:15:57	Seems more of a DM call. I can thing a of a few reasons why Mystics should get a larger list of Domains... 1. There are millions (if not billions) of unique people in the world. While many can be grouped by what is in their hearts, you would still end up with at least a hundred different natures (or Domains). And since Domains for Mystics represent what is within them... more Domain options just fits. But again, it is a DM call... We are not the Errata makers... I do not see though why the Gods of Krynn need more domains. Dragonlance, like Forgotten Realms, requires Clerics to have a Deity, so they just use the Domains in the book... Mystics are like their own gods (well Source of Power).
#7 zombiegleemax Sep 13, 2003 21:44:28	Hehehe I know Reorx is the god of the forge but I see Dwarves as a Militant race as well so with the Metal domain the Dwarven clerics would have a bit of punch as well as crafting skills. I would see crafting, metal and earth as Reorx's domains. But thats just how I see the gods that dwarves would follow
#8 zombiegleemax Sep 13, 2003 23:18:01	The forge domain was created specifically with Reorx in mind... how could the metal domain even compare?
#9 zombiegleemax Sep 13, 2003 23:20:42	Well, I guess I see it a tad differanty. Just because something was made for him doesn't mean that I prefer it over something else but hey its all good.
#10 Dragonhelm Sep 14, 2003 0:12:47	Very good topic. I'd like to add a couple of thoughts. Prestige domains could theoretically work well for the Citadel Mystic. They get a bonus domain, so that would be a good prestige class to use prestige domains for. It would also give the mystic something more to call his own. You could also theoretically export the mystic to other settings. If you did choose that option, you could designate a certain few domains for mystics only. Imagine, for example, if all nature domains or all elemental domains could only be available for mystics. Another interesting thought is that only certain races can access certain domains. Perhaps dwarves are the only ones who can access the earth domain. Anyway, sorry if that wasn't exactly on topic, but I wanted to share my thoughts.
#11 zombiegleemax Sep 14, 2003 5:08:57	I am strictly sticking to offical Dragonlance materials and the Core Rule Books. I believe that splat books such as Defenders of the Faith (especially Defenders of the Faith) are completely broken. By taking ONE level in the Comtemplative PrC a character can add his charisma bonus to his saves, whilst it takes a long progression through the KoS to achieve the same result. My players are not prone to min/maxing, but they do compete in power races. I fear that by introducing other materials the 'Dragonlance' feel of my campaign will slowly vanish, as more and more players leave roleplaying and character development (and the aspects that represent that) behind for more powerful brutish characters.
#12 nevine Sep 14, 2003 12:59:11	Originally posted by Faeryl Zauvirr I am strictly sticking to offical Dragonlance materials and the Core Rule Books. I believe that splat books such as Defenders of the Faith (especially Defenders of the Faith) are completely broken. By taking ONE level in the Comtemplative PrC a character can add his charisma bonus to his saves, whilst it takes a long progression through the KoS to achieve the same result. I'm not a big fan of what you're talking about either, but, just to point out.. It's not the fault of the Contemplative itself (which fits the Mystic with it's introspective nature), but that of the Mysticism prestige domain. It's not all that great of a domain to begin with and could be dropped. Not to mention, at the very least, a PC's first level in Contemplative would be their 11th. character level (that Knowledge [Religion] 13 is a stiff requirement). So, I think if a Knight of Solamnia were able to advance straight through to Rose Knight, they'd have it (Divine Grace) thereabouts as well. Though..a Skull Knight would have had long, long ago with Dark Blessing.
#13 zombiegleemax Sep 14, 2003 14:54:40	I'll post a list of who should have access to domains from other sources once I finish reading the DLCS in a couple of days.
#14 cam_banks Sep 14, 2003 19:27:55	I should point out that two of the so-called prestige domains from Defenders of the Faith sourcebook made it into the DLCS as standard domains - Community and Pestilence (for Mishakal and Morgion, respectively). There's a fair bit of sharing between sources on many levels. Cheers, Cam
#15 banshee Sep 14, 2003 20:10:27	Is it just me? I was readin the DLCS, and noticed that Takhisis and Paladine have domains, Evil Dragons, and Good Dragons, which don't appear to be detailed....anywhere. Have I just flipped by them by accident, or were they missed? Banshee
#16 cam_banks Sep 14, 2003 20:29:52	Originally posted by Banshee Is it just me? I was readin the DLCS, and noticed that Takhisis and Paladine have domains, Evil Dragons, and Good Dragons, which don't appear to be detailed....anywhere. Have I just flipped by them by accident, or were they missed? Those aren't domains, those are elements of the deity's portfolio in each case. Domains are those listed on the next line. Cheers, Cam