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Dude, what happened to Bluetspur?!?

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#1
slivvy_gaidin
Sep 14, 2003 7:17:18 I only have the 3ed Ravenloft Campaign Setting and Denizens of Darkness, and have never looked back through any earlier things.

So, I was reading the adventure 'Feast of Goblyns' and see that one of the neighboring domains to Kartakass is Bluespur. They say it has a river going through it, and trees.
Now I go back to my 3rd edition book and see that Bluetspur is an island in the mists, with a blasted rocky landscape and a deafening subteranean humming.

My question, again, is what ever happened to this Domain of Bluetspur.

Oh, and as a side question (seeing as I was reading the adventure), how do you pronounce 'Goblyn'? Is it the same pronounciation as for the normal 'Goblin'?
#2
Ryltar_Swordsong
Sep 14, 2003 16:56:06 The domains got rearranged during the Grand Conjunction. Most were left in their previous positions, but Bluetspur was one of those that shifted position when the Conjunction ended.
#3
slivvy_gaidin
Sep 14, 2003 21:16:33 Yeah, but it got totally munted in the process, or so it seems.
Did it always have the whole subterranean humming thing?
#4
Ryltar_Swordsong
Sep 14, 2003 21:51:55 The humming is probably psychic waves sent out by the illithid god-brain that manifests as humming.

The vegetation is gone due to the fact that there is no sunlight in Bluetspur.
#5
zombiegleemax
Sep 15, 2003 7:51:26 If you're really interested in learning more about Bluetspur, might I suggest a hunt for "Thoughts Of Darkness" (an old 2E Ravenloft module).

Don't let the negative hype fool you though, cuz alot of cats tried to diss that adventure. But bottom-line: if you got high-powered PCs and you wanna wreak havoc on them with creatures and situations they probably couldn't even fathom, Thoughts of Darkness is right for you.

Plus it was this module that introduced Madness Checks to Ravenloft, a rule that has remained to this day.

In the future, I am sure you can read more about Bluetspur from an upcoming Gazetteer (keep your eyes glued to the shelves of your local hobby shop).

peace

MSD
#6
darksoldier
Sep 21, 2003 3:21:50 The Gazetteers are covering the Core first, so you might be out of luck until around 2006/07.
#7
slivvy_gaidin
Sep 21, 2003 20:43:20 Several years to wait. Thats OK- I wasn't planning on playing in Bluetspur any time soon. I was just curious. Maybe I'll just have to make up my own Bluetspur as I get there. That is what this games about, ain't it?
#8
zombiegleemax
Sep 26, 2003 1:18:44 Bluetspur suffered from "not being gothic enough". Most of the weirder domains (places like Timor with alien non-human domanant *things*) were sifted outside the core after the GC.
#9
zombiegleemax
Sep 29, 2003 15:04:04
Originally posted by The MadStepDad
Don't let the negative hype fool you though, cuz alot of cats tried to diss that adventure. But bottom-line: if you got high-powered PCs and you wanna wreak havoc on them with creatures and situations they probably couldn't even fathom, Thoughts of Darkness is right for you.

Except for the illithid vampires, of course.
#10
rotipher
Oct 06, 2003 11:16:20
Originally posted by HvF
Bluetspur suffered from "not being gothic enough". Most of the weirder domains (places like Timor with alien non-human dominant *things*) were sifted outside the core after the GC.

Not to mention domains that just didn't work as Core locations, like G'Henna. (Why the heck would anybody stay there and starve if there's another domain right next door with FOOD in it...?) If a darklord had to keep the borders shut all the time, just to prevent massive defections, it made sense to make the place an island instead.
#11
zombiegleemax
Oct 06, 2003 11:26:36
Originally posted by Gemathustra
Except for the illithid vampires, of course.

(Inside joke)
#12
zombiegleemax
Nov 01, 2003 2:28:05 Bluetspur was always more Lovecraft than Stoker-

So they made it an Island.

Yeeeeeee-HAW.
#13
The_Jester
Nov 01, 2003 13:06:05 One of the four Island-ed Domains like the aforementioned G'henna, the Nightmare Lands and Markovia. Arak was pretty much erased/retconned.

As for the Goblyns, they're pronounced the same but much more vicious and deadly little buggers.
Maybe add a tad of accent whenever you're talking about them. Gob-leen or something.
#14
zombiegleemax
Nov 12, 2003 14:40:53 Nobody really answered his question. Slivvy, if you have the 3rd Edition campaign setting, then check out page 166 for Bluetspur.

Jeff Davis
www.jeffreyadavis.tk
#15
awakenings
Nov 12, 2003 22:27:53
Originally posted by adventureauthor
Nobody really answered his question. Slivvy, if you have the 3rd Edition campaign setting, then check out page 166 for Bluetspur.

They sure did; reread his question.

He has the book, and he read the page you are referring to. Then he asked how Bleutspur got from here to there, and they are telling him.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 slivvy_gaidin Sep 14, 2003 7:17:18	I only have the 3ed Ravenloft Campaign Setting and Denizens of Darkness, and have never looked back through any earlier things. So, I was reading the adventure 'Feast of Goblyns' and see that one of the neighboring domains to Kartakass is Bluespur. They say it has a river going through it, and trees. Now I go back to my 3rd edition book and see that Bluetspur is an island in the mists, with a blasted rocky landscape and a deafening subteranean humming. My question, again, is what ever happened to this Domain of Bluetspur. Oh, and as a side question (seeing as I was reading the adventure), how do you pronounce 'Goblyn'? Is it the same pronounciation as for the normal 'Goblin'?
#2 Ryltar_Swordsong Sep 14, 2003 16:56:06	The domains got rearranged during the Grand Conjunction. Most were left in their previous positions, but Bluetspur was one of those that shifted position when the Conjunction ended.
#3 slivvy_gaidin Sep 14, 2003 21:16:33	Yeah, but it got totally munted in the process, or so it seems. Did it always have the whole subterranean humming thing?
#4 Ryltar_Swordsong Sep 14, 2003 21:51:55	The humming is probably psychic waves sent out by the illithid god-brain that manifests as humming. The vegetation is gone due to the fact that there is no sunlight in Bluetspur.
#5 zombiegleemax Sep 15, 2003 7:51:26	If you're really interested in learning more about Bluetspur, might I suggest a hunt for "Thoughts Of Darkness" (an old 2E Ravenloft module). Don't let the negative hype fool you though, cuz alot of cats tried to diss that adventure. But bottom-line: if you got high-powered PCs and you wanna wreak havoc on them with creatures and situations they probably couldn't even fathom, Thoughts of Darkness is right for you. Plus it was this module that introduced Madness Checks to Ravenloft, a rule that has remained to this day. In the future, I am sure you can read more about Bluetspur from an upcoming Gazetteer (keep your eyes glued to the shelves of your local hobby shop). peace MSD
#6 darksoldier Sep 21, 2003 3:21:50	The Gazetteers are covering the Core first, so you might be out of luck until around 2006/07.
#7 slivvy_gaidin Sep 21, 2003 20:43:20	Several years to wait. Thats OK- I wasn't planning on playing in Bluetspur any time soon. I was just curious. Maybe I'll just have to make up my own Bluetspur as I get there. That is what this games about, ain't it?
#8 zombiegleemax Sep 26, 2003 1:18:44	Bluetspur suffered from "not being gothic enough". Most of the weirder domains (places like Timor with alien non-human domanant things) were sifted outside the core after the GC.
#9 zombiegleemax Sep 29, 2003 15:04:04	Originally posted by The MadStepDad Don't let the negative hype fool you though, cuz alot of cats tried to diss that adventure. But bottom-line: if you got high-powered PCs and you wanna wreak havoc on them with creatures and situations they probably couldn't even fathom, Thoughts of Darkness is right for you. Except for the illithid vampires, of course.
#10 rotipher Oct 06, 2003 11:16:20	Originally posted by HvF *Bluetspur suffered from "not being gothic enough". Most of the weirder domains (places like Timor with alien non-human dominant things) were sifted outside the core after the GC.* Not to mention domains that just didn't work as Core locations, like G'Henna. (Why the heck would anybody stay there and starve if there's another domain right next door with FOOD in it...?) If a darklord had to keep the borders shut all the time, just to prevent massive defections, it made sense to make the place an island instead.
#11 zombiegleemax Oct 06, 2003 11:26:36	Originally posted by Gemathustra Except for the illithid vampires, of course. (Inside joke)
#12 zombiegleemax Nov 01, 2003 2:28:05	Bluetspur was always more Lovecraft than Stoker- So they made it an Island. Yeeeeeee-HAW.
#13 The_Jester Nov 01, 2003 13:06:05	One of the four Island-ed Domains like the aforementioned G'henna, the Nightmare Lands and Markovia. Arak was pretty much erased/retconned. As for the Goblyns, they're pronounced the same but much more vicious and deadly little buggers. Maybe add a tad of accent whenever you're talking about them. Gob-leen or something.
#14 zombiegleemax Nov 12, 2003 14:40:53	Nobody really answered his question. Slivvy, if you have the 3rd Edition campaign setting, then check out page 166 for Bluetspur. Jeff Davis www.jeffreyadavis.tk
#15 awakenings Nov 12, 2003 22:27:53	Originally posted by adventureauthor Nobody really answered his question. Slivvy, if you have the 3rd Edition campaign setting, then check out page 166 for Bluetspur. They sure did; reread his question. He has the book, and he read the page you are referring to. Then he asked how Bleutspur got from here to there, and they are telling him.