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#1
zombiegleemax
Sep 15, 2003 10:36:26 There's some statistical stuff missing from the Age of Mortals Companion. Does anyone happen to have the info?
1) Neither Dalamar nor Palin have alignments.
2) Laurana's ability scores are missing.
#2
cam_banks
Sep 15, 2003 10:44:59
Originally posted by The Spellcasting Sorcerer
There's some statistical stuff missing from the Age of Mortals Companion. Does anyone happen to have the info?
1) Neither Dalamar nor Palin have alignments.
2) Laurana's ability scores are missing.

Palin is Lawful Good. Dalamar is Chaotic Evil. Laurana's statistics as previously published are Str 13, Dex 17, Con 14, Int 15, Wis 12, Cha 16. You should check those statistics against the rest of the stat block to see if they match up.

Cheers,
Cam
#3
daedavias_dup
Sep 15, 2003 10:45:21
Originally posted by The Spellcasting Sorcerer
There's some statistical stuff missing from the Age of Mortals Companion. Does anyone happen to have the info?
1) Neither Dalamar nor Palin have alignments.
2) Laurana's ability scores are missing.

I found that odd also. Dalamar's alignment is obvious, at least the evil part. He is either lawful or neutral evil. Palin is either lawful or neutral good(he has to balance out Dalamar of course).
The Laurana one is just darn weird, instead of stats, it gives height and weight.
#4
daedavias_dup
Sep 15, 2003 10:57:05
Originally posted by Cam Banks
Palin is Lawful Good. Dalamar is Chaotic Evil. Laurana's statistics as previously published are Str 13, Dex 17, Con 14, Int 15, Wis 12, Cha 16. You should check those statistics against the rest of the stat block to see if they match up.

Cheers,
Cam

How the heck did you manage to do that? Beating my to the post and then contradicting me before I even write. Cam, are you a super hero/villian or something:D

What I don't understand about Dalamar being Chaotic evil is that he doesn't really act that way.
#5
cam_banks
Sep 15, 2003 12:07:53
Originally posted by Daedavias
How the heck did you manage to do that? Beating my to the post and then contradicting me before I even write. Cam, are you a super hero/villian or something:D

What I don't understand about Dalamar being Chaotic evil is that he doesn't really act that way.

Sure he does. He had no problem at all in maneuvering as many of the events in the War of Souls to his own ends, had no loyalty to anybody, and (as the Gods of Magic pointed out) came very close to ruining it for everybody. That's why they've banned him from the Tower in Nightlund.

That said, he does seem to fit neutral evil a little better. His actions don't seem to be as motivated by the spur of the moment as you'd expect from a chaotic evil villain. I was merely quoting previous sources.

Regardless of alignment, though, he's not a very nice person.

Cheers,
Cam
#6
zombiegleemax
Sep 15, 2003 13:22:03 Okay, from Laurana's stat block, here's what I managed to uncover:
Her Strength is a 13 because she causes an extra point of damage with her short sword.
Her Dexterity is 17 because she gets a +3 to AC and Initiative.
Her Constitution is 14 because she gets 2 extra hit points per level.
I have no clue what her intelligence is. She has a lot of skill points, but I'm unsure how to calculate all to figure out her Int.
Her Wisdom was upped to a 14 or 15 because she gets a +2 to Will saves on top of her class levels and Iron Will feat.
I don't know how to uncover her Charisma score. I guess we can say it remained the same?
#7
zombiegleemax
Sep 15, 2003 17:29:42 something i don't understand. post-war of souls, palin's magick-less. Completely. Does his stat block take into effect him not using magic anymore?
#8
shugi
Sep 15, 2003 19:24:52 Yup. He still has his sorcerer and Academy Sorcerer levels, but he has no spells per day.
#9
zombiegleemax
Sep 15, 2003 20:57:27
Originally posted by Cam Banks
Laurana's statistics as previously published are Str 13, Dex 17, Con 14, Int 15, Wis 12, Cha 16. You should check those statistics against the rest of the stat block to see if they match up.

Since she's statted out many years after her reign as the Golden General, and under 3rd edition rules, you'd think they would have added the stat bonuses from level increases.

I could see them taking her base 1E stats and bumping up WIS or CHA a few points (not that they did).
#10
cam_banks
Sep 15, 2003 21:39:59
Originally posted by Kai Lord

I could see them taking her base 1E stats and bumping up WIS or CHA a few points (not that they did).

Given that it looks as if her Wisdom is giving her a +2 bonus, not +1, it looks as if they did.

Cheers,
Cam
#11
zombiegleemax
Sep 15, 2003 21:43:34
Originally posted by Cam Banks
Given that it looks as if her Wisdom is giving her a +2 bonus, not +1, it looks as if they did.

Ha. That's cool.
#12
iltharanos
Sep 15, 2003 23:35:04 Belladonna on p. 114 is missing her ability scores as well.
#13
frostdawn
Sep 16, 2003 12:54:37 No stats for Gellidus at all. One of the last 2 dragon overlords, and no stats. That irks me more than Laurana (who is dead if your playing the age of mortals post wos, so her not having stats doesn't really bother me that much)
#14
daedavias_dup
Sep 16, 2003 13:08:40
Originally posted by frostdawn
No stats for Gellidus at all. One of the last 2 dragon overlords, and no stats. That irks me more than Laurana (who is dead if your playing the age of mortals post wos, so her not having stats doesn't really bother me that much)

Christopher Coyle of Sovereign Press has stressed that he will be in a future product.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 zombiegleemax Sep 15, 2003 10:36:26	There's some statistical stuff missing from the Age of Mortals Companion. Does anyone happen to have the info? 1) Neither Dalamar nor Palin have alignments. 2) Laurana's ability scores are missing.
#2 cam_banks Sep 15, 2003 10:44:59	Originally posted by The Spellcasting Sorcerer There's some statistical stuff missing from the Age of Mortals Companion. Does anyone happen to have the info? 1) Neither Dalamar nor Palin have alignments. 2) Laurana's ability scores are missing. Palin is Lawful Good. Dalamar is Chaotic Evil. Laurana's statistics as previously published are Str 13, Dex 17, Con 14, Int 15, Wis 12, Cha 16. You should check those statistics against the rest of the stat block to see if they match up. Cheers, Cam
#3 daedavias_dup Sep 15, 2003 10:45:21	Originally posted by The Spellcasting Sorcerer There's some statistical stuff missing from the Age of Mortals Companion. Does anyone happen to have the info? 1) Neither Dalamar nor Palin have alignments. 2) Laurana's ability scores are missing. I found that odd also. Dalamar's alignment is obvious, at least the evil part. He is either lawful or neutral evil. Palin is either lawful or neutral good(he has to balance out Dalamar of course). The Laurana one is just darn weird, instead of stats, it gives height and weight.
#4 daedavias_dup Sep 15, 2003 10:57:05	Originally posted by Cam Banks Palin is Lawful Good. Dalamar is Chaotic Evil. Laurana's statistics as previously published are Str 13, Dex 17, Con 14, Int 15, Wis 12, Cha 16. You should check those statistics against the rest of the stat block to see if they match up. Cheers, Cam How the heck did you manage to do that? Beating my to the post and then contradicting me before I even write. Cam, are you a super hero/villian or something:D What I don't understand about Dalamar being Chaotic evil is that he doesn't really act that way.
#5 cam_banks Sep 15, 2003 12:07:53	Originally posted by Daedavias How the heck did you manage to do that? Beating my to the post and then contradicting me before I even write. Cam, are you a super hero/villian or something:D What I don't understand about Dalamar being Chaotic evil is that he doesn't really act that way. Sure he does. He had no problem at all in maneuvering as many of the events in the War of Souls to his own ends, had no loyalty to anybody, and (as the Gods of Magic pointed out) came very close to ruining it for everybody. That's why they've banned him from the Tower in Nightlund. That said, he does seem to fit neutral evil a little better. His actions don't seem to be as motivated by the spur of the moment as you'd expect from a chaotic evil villain. I was merely quoting previous sources. Regardless of alignment, though, he's not a very nice person. Cheers, Cam
#6 zombiegleemax Sep 15, 2003 13:22:03	Okay, from Laurana's stat block, here's what I managed to uncover: Her Strength is a 13 because she causes an extra point of damage with her short sword. Her Dexterity is 17 because she gets a +3 to AC and Initiative. Her Constitution is 14 because she gets 2 extra hit points per level. I have no clue what her intelligence is. She has a lot of skill points, but I'm unsure how to calculate all to figure out her Int. Her Wisdom was upped to a 14 or 15 because she gets a +2 to Will saves on top of her class levels and Iron Will feat. I don't know how to uncover her Charisma score. I guess we can say it remained the same?
#7 zombiegleemax Sep 15, 2003 17:29:42	something i don't understand. post-war of souls, palin's magick-less. Completely. Does his stat block take into effect him not using magic anymore?
#8 shugi Sep 15, 2003 19:24:52	Yup. He still has his sorcerer and Academy Sorcerer levels, but he has no spells per day.
#9 zombiegleemax Sep 15, 2003 20:57:27	Originally posted by Cam Banks Laurana's statistics as previously published are Str 13, Dex 17, Con 14, Int 15, Wis 12, Cha 16. You should check those statistics against the rest of the stat block to see if they match up. Since she's statted out many years after her reign as the Golden General, and under 3rd edition rules, you'd think they would have added the stat bonuses from level increases. I could see them taking her base 1E stats and bumping up WIS or CHA a few points (not that they did).
#10 cam_banks Sep 15, 2003 21:39:59	Originally posted by Kai Lord I could see them taking her base 1E stats and bumping up WIS or CHA a few points (not that they did). Given that it looks as if her Wisdom is giving her a +2 bonus, not +1, it looks as if they did. Cheers, Cam
#11 zombiegleemax Sep 15, 2003 21:43:34	Originally posted by Cam Banks Given that it looks as if her Wisdom is giving her a +2 bonus, not +1, it looks as if they did. Ha. That's cool.
#12 iltharanos Sep 15, 2003 23:35:04	Belladonna on p. 114 is missing her ability scores as well.
#13 frostdawn Sep 16, 2003 12:54:37	No stats for Gellidus at all. One of the last 2 dragon overlords, and no stats. That irks me more than Laurana (who is dead if your playing the age of mortals post wos, so her not having stats doesn't really bother me that much)
#14 daedavias_dup Sep 16, 2003 13:08:40	Originally posted by frostdawn No stats for Gellidus at all. One of the last 2 dragon overlords, and no stats. That irks me more than Laurana (who is dead if your playing the age of mortals post wos, so her not having stats doesn't really bother me that much) Christopher Coyle of Sovereign Press has stressed that he will be in a future product.