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#1 zombiegleemax Sep 15, 2003 14:20:08	Hey hey fellow Greyhawk fans, it is I, the great and powerful Coldpenguin. It occured to me long ago that (so I've heard) Greyhawk has never quite given the our favorite reptillian friends, the dragons, enough treatment, credit, and quality. Thus I have taken it upon myself to write an article for Canonfire all about the dragons of the Flanaess. Now, what I'd like to know is, what GH sources would provide the most material for me. I'd also like to know just what exactly people would expect out of an article like this, example, a general overview of dragons etc. Or named dragons and thier histories? both? give me some feedback so i can get to work!
#2 Gnarley_Woodsman Sep 15, 2003 15:54:20	Well, as far as the basics of the chromatic, and metallic dragons are concerned be very mindful of thier attitudes. The monster Manual aswell as the DMG and PHB are default Greyhawk. Dragon entries within are repleat with various attitudes of the beasties. The Greyhawk dragon should be of some concern for you. I would definately review the 2e Greyhawk Monstrous Manual Appendix entry on this species, and others. Other sources might include researching some of the information out of the old "Dragon Mountain" boxed set. Also consult the 1e D&D Monstrous Manual and the 3e Manual of the Planes or Deities and Demigods (whichever they appeared in) for some Ideas about Tiamat and Bahamut. Those are my Ideas off the top of my head.
#3 Aeolius Sep 15, 2003 16:42:32	In the Dramidj, the local aquatic races are familiar with pearl, coral, and abalone dragons, as well as the occasional half-dragon (turtle). Of interest is an alu-demon who has replaced her own forearms with those of a topaz dragon, inadvertently granting her the ability to breathe underwater. Her half-sister, a half-dragon (topaz) / half-fiend (succubus), has recently reappeared in the area.
#4 zombiegleemax Sep 15, 2003 17:50:27	Aeolius, where'd that come from? I'd like to see more stuff along those lines if anyone has it or knows where i can get it.
#5 Aeolius Sep 15, 2003 18:14:24	Originally posted by Coldpenguin625 Aeolius, where'd that come from? Check out the link in my signature and read the campaign Background.
#6 chatdemon Sep 16, 2003 2:30:01	Eric Boyd (of Forgotten Realms fame) wrote a series of articles for the Oerth Journal ezine called "Wyrms of the Flanaess" Check out these issues: Issue 5 http://www.canonfire.com/htmlnew/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=getit&lid=51 Issue 6 http://www.canonfire.com/htmlnew/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=getit&lid=52 Issue 7 http://www.canonfire.com/htmlnew/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=getit&lid=53 Issue 8 http://www.canonfire.com/htmlnew/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=getit&lid=54
#7 zombiegleemax Sep 16, 2003 18:45:05	The articles posted above are good. My only advice would be don't overdo it. Dragons are rare in Greyhawk, you don't want lose this feel. Slaying a dragon or gaining one as an ally should happen only once or twice in the career of a Greyhawk Character, not once per level like in the Realms.
#8 zombiegleemax Nov 20, 2003 21:17:26	Whooooooah. This has a post id of 100000!
#9 zombiegleemax Nov 20, 2003 21:17:30	Whooooooah. This has a thread id of 100000!
#10 zombiegleemax Nov 20, 2003 21:30:59	About the only thing I can think of is that there wouldn't be many dragons in the Aerdi lands. I haven't read all of Ivid but I get the impression that their rule over the core lands of the kingdom was pretty absolute, meaning they would've driven out any significant threats long ago and given the preponderance for fiends there, the fiends wouldn't want the dragons around either. But then, maybe an ancient dragon in the Adri and Grandwood would help explain why they never quite managed to dominate the forests. They would have to be allied with the elves there as well since it's noted that the elves were staunch foes of the Great Kingdom. Hmm... an alliance between a green dragon and elves... interesting...
#11 zombiegleemax Nov 21, 2003 1:48:36	Quote: "The articles posted above are good. My only advice would be don't overdo it. Dragons are rare in Greyhawk, you don't want lose this feel. Slaying a dragon or gaining one as an ally should happen only once or twice in the career of a Greyhawk Character, not once per level like in the Realms." I believe you have that remark slightly backwards, in the realms you can encounter a dragon at every level with ease, the only problem is it slays you. Even in the 2e version of the realms you had really nasty official stated dragons, I once made the mistake of taking on an incredible old shriveld up puny barely alive great wyrm blue dragon leading a party of 6 mega equipped 15th level characters, the dragon was apparently an archmage and high priest of a draconic god of magic, and his lair was really a temple, he cast time stop, we died. P.S. I love the Greyhawk setting, but the realms has some awesome ass-kickin dragons, and other creatures, regardless of what some greyhawk harpers think, the realms is a deadly place to adventure in. "If you ever adventure there, beware of little elven girls, they might have the mind and skills of a 3500 year old ultra-devious 36th level epic necromancer"
#12 OleOneEye Nov 23, 2003 8:35:43	Do not believe the rumors that Cobb Darg is a dragon. Irongate is held strong by the will of a dwarf. He will not surrender.
#13 zombiegleemax Nov 23, 2003 9:22:58	Originally posted by OleOneEye Do not believe the rumors that Cobb Darg is a dragon. Irongate is held strong by the will of a dwarf. He will not surrender. He's not a dwarf either...