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#1
valdren
Sep 24, 2003 15:24:49 Has there been any mention of the fate of the Tower in Istar after it was taking overby the Kingpriest?

Has it survived on the bottom of the Blood Sea into the current age?

If so I think it would be kind of cool to resurect it in the Age of Mortals. An underwater tower surrounded by a grove of coral, controled by a dargonesti wizard could make for an interesting venue or adventure setting.
#2
rosisha
Sep 24, 2003 15:33:02 That, by far, has to be one of the coolest game ideas I had ever heard.

Rosisha
#3
daedavias_dup
Sep 24, 2003 16:07:50
Originally posted by Valdren
Has there been any mention of the fate of the Tower in Istar after it was taking overby the Kingpriest?

Has it survived on the bottom of the Blood Sea into the current age?

If so I think it would be kind of cool to resurect it in the Age of Mortals. An underwater tower surrounded by a grove of coral, controled by a dargonesti wizard could make for an interesting venue or adventure setting.

In my campaign it has risen above the waves once again, due to the influx of magic caused by a dragon overlords totem. It has since been claimed by the new head of the White Robes. With it has grown the new Grove of Forgetfulness, making knowledge of the Tower all but impossible to obtain.
#4
shugi
Sep 24, 2003 16:24:05 The Temple of the Kingpriest was taken to the Abyss by Takhisis, to be used as her "Abyssal doorway" to Krynn. She had the Temple of Neraka built as the "Krynnish doorway". However, there's no mention of the Tower of High Sorcery either way.

The Tower will be mentioned (at least in passing) in Sacred Fire, which is still a couple months away. Mind you, I don't think it will detail where the Tower goes after the Cataclysm, but you never know...
#5
zombiegleemax
Sep 24, 2003 16:55:24 There was a thread on the Tower of the Blood Sea a few months ago. It had some great ideas, see if you can find it.
#6
valdren
Sep 25, 2003 7:53:19 I found the Thread here:
Tower of the Blood Sea

I hate the fact everytime I get an idea twenty people have thought of it before me. :D

Anyway either idea is Cool but I have a thing for undersea settings so I think I would keep my Tower on the bottom.

P.S. the Malestrom was caused by an open portal to the abyss where the Temple of istar use to be located. I assume when Tak moved the planet that cut of the portal and so no more malestrom.
#7
daedavias_dup
Sep 25, 2003 7:58:04
Originally posted by Valdren
P.S. the Malestrom was caused by an open portal to the abyss where the Temple of istar use to be located. I assume when Tak moved the planet that cut of the portal and so no more malestrom.

Indeed there is no more Maelstrom, which is also why the minotaurs were able to move onto the mainland.
#8
zombiegleemax
Sep 25, 2003 9:43:01 I have a set of DC comics that deal with this topic. Now, this story is nowhere near canon, but I think the idea might work.

Anyway, the Tower of Istar is drawn into a demiplane by a Black Robed named Spyranus, I'll have to look it up for more precise details. The story itself was not all that bad and had some info on that demiplane.

Anyway, my DM used this story to introduce the Ravenloft setting so that the tower is now in Ravenloft. The gate in the lab now leads to Krynn instead of the Abyss, enabling the Master of the Tower to travel freely between Ravenloft and Krynn.

I think the idea of raising the tower is one of the coolest ideas I have head in a long time. A friend of mine did that in his campaign, and apparently it seemed to work pretty well.

I would appreciate any info on this subject if any of you guys are using it in your campaigns.

J

:D
#9
zombiegleemax
Sep 25, 2003 19:35:36 I consider all those comics cannon, they are all soo awesome I love the Raistlin's pawn series.... As to resurecting towers.... I always thought it would have been cool to just build some more... After all, originally 7 Towers of High Sorcery were slated for construction and there are 2 more Stone of Threes lurking about....
#10
Matthew_L._Martin
Sep 25, 2003 20:13:49
Originally posted by J_Phoenix
Anyway, the Tower of Istar is drawn into a demiplane by a Black Robed named Spyranus, I'll have to look it up for more precise details. The story itself was not all that bad and had some info on that demiplane.

Actually, that was the Lost Citadel, where the first wizards were taught the arts of High Sorcery by Solinari, Lunitari, and Nuitari. First mentioned in DLA, the Lost Citadel _also_ played a key role in the _Defenders of Magic_ Trilogy, which contradicts much of DL #13--16 (the "High Sorcery" arc).

Cool story nonetheless, though--it featured an adventure of Par-Salian, Ladonna, Goldmoon, Riverwind, and the wizardess Myrella in a post-_Legends_ period, as well as an atypical example of a Test.

Matthew L. Martin
#11
zombiegleemax
Sep 25, 2003 20:29:18
Originally posted by Shugi
The Temple of the Kingpriest was taken to the Abyss by Takhisis, to be used as her "Abyssal doorway" to Krynn. She had the Temple of Neraka built as the "Krynnish doorway". However, there's no mention of the Tower of High Sorcery either way.

I had always thought that when the Kingpriest moved into the Tower of High Sorcery at Istar, It became the Temple of the Kingpriest, thus it was the temple that was taken to the Abyss.
#12
zombiegleemax
Sep 25, 2003 23:40:33 In The defenders of magic series, and in Dragons of (Spring Dawning or winter night) there is a giant gaping bottomless pit where it stood.
#13
zombiegleemax
Sep 25, 2003 23:44:45 the tower was, or the temple of istar? I have never read that series so I am only working with what was in legends, chronicles, and various rpg supplements, which is why i had thought the tower had become the temple.
#14
zombiegleemax
Sep 26, 2003 2:22:29
Actually, that was the Lost Citadel, where the first wizards were taught the arts of High Sorcery by Solinari, Lunitari, and Nuitari. First mentioned in DLA, the Lost Citadel _also_ played a key role in the _Defenders of Magic_ Trilogy, which contradicts much of DL #13--16 (the "High Sorcery" arc).

I am pretty sure it was The Tower of High Sorcery that was drawn into the demiplane, but I guess I might be wrong

Has anybody here read the other DL comics from DC? I tried to find them a couple of years back, but my local "dealer" didn't have them so I was forced to go through withdrawals Are they any good?

J
#15
shugi
Sep 26, 2003 11:58:35 The Tower of High Sorcery in Istar hasn't been referred to as the Temple of the Kingpriest, but I suppose it's possible. I'm pretty certain that they're two different things, though. The Kingpriest trilogy frequently uses the building that is, I'd wager, the Temple of the Kingpriest... and that's before the Tower of Istar is lost to the WoHS.
#16
zombiegleemax
Sep 26, 2003 22:40:42
After all, originally 7 Towers of High Sorcery were slated for construction and there are 2 more Stone of Threes lurking about....

I should know this, but for the sake of an idea I'm cooking up could someone tell me what a "Stone of Three" is? I'm guessing its like a foundation stone for an individual Tower of High Sorcery and that the "Three" indicates its tied to each god of magic, but I want to be sure and I'd love to have a description of their collective origin.

Cheers,

Maglaurus
#17
zombiegleemax
Oct 09, 2003 9:22:19 That is actually not a bad idea to bring back another of the Towers so taht the Mages could quickly reform the Conclave and administer the Test of high Sorcery. I will have to bring this up with myh DM.
#18
zombiegleemax
Oct 09, 2003 11:33:33 Even if the tower no longer stands, the grove probably does. In DoSD, when the companions leave Istar, they wash up on shore with little or no memory of their time there.

I would think the sea elves used the grove to induce this, although it may have been a spell from Zebulah.

As far as the Temple goes, it was a separate building. When the Heroes look at the three-dimensional map of Istar, they see the temple as a huge structure with seven towers (one for each good god, presumably) and one huge central tower that challenged the gods (For the Kingpriest).
#19
zombiegleemax
Oct 09, 2003 20:23:56 The Tower of Istar was sent to the Abyss where the Dark Queen took the "Keystone" and planted it in Neraka where it grew into to the Tower of Darkness, a twist perversion of the Tower of Istar. That tower was itself was destroyed at the end of the War of the Lance.
Heres a thought, if Tas survived going to the Abyss with the tower, why wouldn't the Kingpriest himself? Whatever happeaned to him?
Just imagion the surprise on his face
#20
zombiegleemax
Oct 09, 2003 20:28:10 No not the Tower, the TEMPLE of Istar was sent to the Abyss...

The Tower of Istar may or may not be the Temple of Istar -- I am leaning towards not -- and if it isn't then its probably still on the bottom of th ocean.
#21
frojas
Oct 09, 2003 22:09:17 If you read book 2 of the Kingpriest Trilogy its pretty clear that the Temple of the Kingpriest and the Tower of High Sorcery in Istar are two different buildings.

FR
#22
daedavias_dup
Oct 10, 2003 0:02:49
Originally posted by frojas
If you read book 2 of the Kingpriest Trilogy its pretty clear that the Temple of the Kingpriest and the Tower of High Sorcery in Istar are two different buildings.

FR

AMEN!!!!

The next time I see this Temple and Tower being one and the same stuff from anyone, I am going to smack them in half.
#23
zombiegleemax
Oct 10, 2003 1:54:18 I think that in the Dragonlance module that dealt with the Blood SDea, they said taht the Kingpriest had become some terrible form of undead. I dont recall there being a reference to the Tower in the module of the Chronicles.
#24
zombiegleemax
Oct 10, 2003 3:42:33
Originally posted by DaemonAngel
Heres a thought, if Tas survived going to the Abyss with the tower, why wouldn't the Kingpriest himself? Whatever happeaned to him?
Just imagion the surprise on his face

In my campaign, he did survive. And he would have gotten back to Krynn if one of my PCs hadn't driven a dragonlance up his stomach.
#25
frojas
Oct 10, 2003 7:15:44
Heres a thought, if Tas survived going to the Abyss with the tower, why wouldn't the Kingpriest himself? Whatever happeaned to him?

It was always my impression that Tas survived because he was in Fistandantilus's laboratory which was heavily protected by magic. And he only barely survived.

FR

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 valdren Sep 24, 2003 15:24:49	Has there been any mention of the fate of the Tower in Istar after it was taking overby the Kingpriest? Has it survived on the bottom of the Blood Sea into the current age? If so I think it would be kind of cool to resurect it in the Age of Mortals. An underwater tower surrounded by a grove of coral, controled by a dargonesti wizard could make for an interesting venue or adventure setting.
#2 rosisha Sep 24, 2003 15:33:02	That, by far, has to be one of the coolest game ideas I had ever heard. Rosisha
#3 daedavias_dup Sep 24, 2003 16:07:50	Originally posted by Valdren Has there been any mention of the fate of the Tower in Istar after it was taking overby the Kingpriest? Has it survived on the bottom of the Blood Sea into the current age? If so I think it would be kind of cool to resurect it in the Age of Mortals. An underwater tower surrounded by a grove of coral, controled by a dargonesti wizard could make for an interesting venue or adventure setting. In my campaign it has risen above the waves once again, due to the influx of magic caused by a dragon overlords totem. It has since been claimed by the new head of the White Robes. With it has grown the new Grove of Forgetfulness, making knowledge of the Tower all but impossible to obtain.
#4 shugi Sep 24, 2003 16:24:05	The Temple of the Kingpriest was taken to the Abyss by Takhisis, to be used as her "Abyssal doorway" to Krynn. She had the Temple of Neraka built as the "Krynnish doorway". However, there's no mention of the Tower of High Sorcery either way. The Tower will be mentioned (at least in passing) in Sacred Fire, which is still a couple months away. Mind you, I don't think it will detail where the Tower goes after the Cataclysm, but you never know...
#5 zombiegleemax Sep 24, 2003 16:55:24	There was a thread on the Tower of the Blood Sea a few months ago. It had some great ideas, see if you can find it.
#6 valdren Sep 25, 2003 7:53:19	I found the Thread here: Tower of the Blood Sea I hate the fact everytime I get an idea twenty people have thought of it before me. :D Anyway either idea is Cool but I have a thing for undersea settings so I think I would keep my Tower on the bottom. P.S. the Malestrom was caused by an open portal to the abyss where the Temple of istar use to be located. I assume when Tak moved the planet that cut of the portal and so no more malestrom.
#7 daedavias_dup Sep 25, 2003 7:58:04	Originally posted by Valdren P.S. the Malestrom was caused by an open portal to the abyss where the Temple of istar use to be located. I assume when Tak moved the planet that cut of the portal and so no more malestrom. Indeed there is no more Maelstrom, which is also why the minotaurs were able to move onto the mainland.
#8 zombiegleemax Sep 25, 2003 9:43:01	I have a set of DC comics that deal with this topic. Now, this story is nowhere near canon, but I think the idea might work. Anyway, the Tower of Istar is drawn into a demiplane by a Black Robed named Spyranus, I'll have to look it up for more precise details. The story itself was not all that bad and had some info on that demiplane. Anyway, my DM used this story to introduce the Ravenloft setting so that the tower is now in Ravenloft. The gate in the lab now leads to Krynn instead of the Abyss, enabling the Master of the Tower to travel freely between Ravenloft and Krynn. I think the idea of raising the tower is one of the coolest ideas I have head in a long time. A friend of mine did that in his campaign, and apparently it seemed to work pretty well. I would appreciate any info on this subject if any of you guys are using it in your campaigns. J :D
#9 zombiegleemax Sep 25, 2003 19:35:36	I consider all those comics cannon, they are all soo awesome I love the Raistlin's pawn series.... As to resurecting towers.... I always thought it would have been cool to just build some more... After all, originally 7 Towers of High Sorcery were slated for construction and there are 2 more Stone of Threes lurking about....
#10 Matthew_L._Martin Sep 25, 2003 20:13:49	Originally posted by J_Phoenix Anyway, the Tower of Istar is drawn into a demiplane by a Black Robed named Spyranus, I'll have to look it up for more precise details. The story itself was not all that bad and had some info on that demiplane. Actually, that was the Lost Citadel, where the first wizards were taught the arts of High Sorcery by Solinari, Lunitari, and Nuitari. First mentioned in DLA, the Lost Citadel _also_ played a key role in the _Defenders of Magic_ Trilogy, which contradicts much of DL #13--16 (the "High Sorcery" arc). Cool story nonetheless, though--it featured an adventure of Par-Salian, Ladonna, Goldmoon, Riverwind, and the wizardess Myrella in a post-_Legends_ period, as well as an atypical example of a Test. Matthew L. Martin
#11 zombiegleemax Sep 25, 2003 20:29:18	Originally posted by Shugi The Temple of the Kingpriest was taken to the Abyss by Takhisis, to be used as her "Abyssal doorway" to Krynn. She had the Temple of Neraka built as the "Krynnish doorway". However, there's no mention of the Tower of High Sorcery either way. I had always thought that when the Kingpriest moved into the Tower of High Sorcery at Istar, It became the Temple of the Kingpriest, thus it was the temple that was taken to the Abyss.
#12 zombiegleemax Sep 25, 2003 23:40:33	In The defenders of magic series, and in Dragons of (Spring Dawning or winter night) there is a giant gaping bottomless pit where it stood.
#13 zombiegleemax Sep 25, 2003 23:44:45	the tower was, or the temple of istar? I have never read that series so I am only working with what was in legends, chronicles, and various rpg supplements, which is why i had thought the tower had become the temple.
#14 zombiegleemax Sep 26, 2003 2:22:29	Actually, that was the Lost Citadel, where the first wizards were taught the arts of High Sorcery by Solinari, Lunitari, and Nuitari. First mentioned in DLA, the Lost Citadel _also_ played a key role in the _Defenders of Magic_ Trilogy, which contradicts much of DL #13--16 (the "High Sorcery" arc). I am pretty sure it was The Tower of High Sorcery that was drawn into the demiplane, but I guess I might be wrong Has anybody here read the other DL comics from DC? I tried to find them a couple of years back, but my local "dealer" didn't have them so I was forced to go through withdrawals Are they any good? J
#15 shugi Sep 26, 2003 11:58:35	The Tower of High Sorcery in Istar hasn't been referred to as the Temple of the Kingpriest, but I suppose it's possible. I'm pretty certain that they're two different things, though. The Kingpriest trilogy frequently uses the building that is, I'd wager, the Temple of the Kingpriest... and that's before the Tower of Istar is lost to the WoHS.
#16 zombiegleemax Sep 26, 2003 22:40:42	After all, originally 7 Towers of High Sorcery were slated for construction and there are 2 more Stone of Threes lurking about.... I should know this, but for the sake of an idea I'm cooking up could someone tell me what a "Stone of Three" is? I'm guessing its like a foundation stone for an individual Tower of High Sorcery and that the "Three" indicates its tied to each god of magic, but I want to be sure and I'd love to have a description of their collective origin. Cheers, Maglaurus
#17 zombiegleemax Oct 09, 2003 9:22:19	That is actually not a bad idea to bring back another of the Towers so taht the Mages could quickly reform the Conclave and administer the Test of high Sorcery. I will have to bring this up with myh DM.
#18 zombiegleemax Oct 09, 2003 11:33:33	Even if the tower no longer stands, the grove probably does. In DoSD, when the companions leave Istar, they wash up on shore with little or no memory of their time there. I would think the sea elves used the grove to induce this, although it may have been a spell from Zebulah. As far as the Temple goes, it was a separate building. When the Heroes look at the three-dimensional map of Istar, they see the temple as a huge structure with seven towers (one for each good god, presumably) and one huge central tower that challenged the gods (For the Kingpriest).
#19 zombiegleemax Oct 09, 2003 20:23:56	The Tower of Istar was sent to the Abyss where the Dark Queen took the "Keystone" and planted it in Neraka where it grew into to the Tower of Darkness, a twist perversion of the Tower of Istar. That tower was itself was destroyed at the end of the War of the Lance. Heres a thought, if Tas survived going to the Abyss with the tower, why wouldn't the Kingpriest himself? Whatever happeaned to him? Just imagion the surprise on his face
#20 zombiegleemax Oct 09, 2003 20:28:10	No not the Tower, the TEMPLE of Istar was sent to the Abyss... The Tower of Istar may or may not be the Temple of Istar -- I am leaning towards not -- and if it isn't then its probably still on the bottom of th ocean.
#21 frojas Oct 09, 2003 22:09:17	If you read book 2 of the Kingpriest Trilogy its pretty clear that the Temple of the Kingpriest and the Tower of High Sorcery in Istar are two different buildings. FR
#22 daedavias_dup Oct 10, 2003 0:02:49	Originally posted by frojas If you read book 2 of the Kingpriest Trilogy its pretty clear that the Temple of the Kingpriest and the Tower of High Sorcery in Istar are two different buildings. FR AMEN!!!! The next time I see this Temple and Tower being one and the same stuff from anyone, I am going to smack them in half.
#23 zombiegleemax Oct 10, 2003 1:54:18	I think that in the Dragonlance module that dealt with the Blood SDea, they said taht the Kingpriest had become some terrible form of undead. I dont recall there being a reference to the Tower in the module of the Chronicles.
#24 zombiegleemax Oct 10, 2003 3:42:33	Originally posted by DaemonAngel Heres a thought, if Tas survived going to the Abyss with the tower, why wouldn't the Kingpriest himself? Whatever happeaned to him? Just imagion the surprise on his face In my campaign, he did survive. And he would have gotten back to Krynn if one of my PCs hadn't driven a dragonlance up his stomach.
#25 frojas Oct 10, 2003 7:15:44	Heres a thought, if Tas survived going to the Abyss with the tower, why wouldn't the Kingpriest himself? Whatever happeaned to him? It was always my impression that Tas survived because he was in Fistandantilus's laboratory which was heavily protected by magic. And he only barely survived. FR