DOes she go back to the abyss and become larvae food or whatever? I mean hell she was a former god, does she get some special place in the afterlife for that position she held? Like a small room in the forest to relax and write her autobiography?
Or does she get to suffer eternally? I bet some of the fiends are pretty ****** off at her and would love nothing than to get back at her in the afterlife?
So what do you think will happen to her soul?
-Enisei
You could also say that if Takhisis was granted a soul when made mortal, then Mina could try to capture said soul and through some ancient ritual (or one brought with the alien dragons) takhisis could rise again. Who knows maybe if she gets one of each type of the original ten dragons, takhisis's soul and body and the power of a god, (or chaos) Takhisis would live again.
Or better yet, Mina tries to raise her, and accidently makes her into a Lich?:D :D :D :D :D
Originally posted by Kalanth
oh oh oh, here is an idea. Somehow the god of the dead (don't have my book on me and my mind is blank) gets ahold of her sole and turns her into a spectral minion, or maybe a wraith or something. I would love to see her mysteriously appear as a Death Knight.
Chemosh is his name, death is his game
. That would be pretty cool, but he might side more with the rest of the pantheon and still be a little peeved at Tak for stealing the world away, so he might not get involved directly. I think if she is a spirit, there might be a chance of her tricking someone into bringing her back through some obscure ritual, or something of the sort. That's a long shot though...Originally posted by frostdawn
Chemosh is his name, death is his game
Don't forget the fact that if ANYONE messes with takie's sleep, the Third and Final Cataclysm's gonna hit. The gods are taking this seriously. They DON'T want her back.
As for where she is? I dunno... Prolly a balor's best buddy right now..... ah, flaming whips....... yeah baby!
Of, course if he tricked them stating that paladine doesn't deserve to be brought down low as a mortal that may work. The poor grieving wife may be that silly.
Originally posted by Magus_Extreme
Don't forget the fact that if ANYONE messes with takie's sleep, the Third and Final Cataclysm's gonna hit. The gods are taking this seriously. They DON'T want her back.
As for where she is? I dunno... Prolly a balor's best buddy right now..... ah, flaming whips....... yeah baby!
Woah there! Whips?! Yikes...
They don't want anyone desecrating the resting place of her tomb. Reincarnation through some means or other might serve as a loophole though, and not spurn the final cataclysm. Highly unlikely, but ever so slightly feasible. In the off hand she did come back, that would mean reinstating Valthonis as Paladine in order to keep the pantheon in balance. These are all long shots though. :P
1) The biggest problem : Even if Takhisis goes to the future, she's been written out of the Book. She'll just be a mortal who has been shunted to the future.
2) An original race of Krynn (human, elf, ogre, probably bakali & dragon) cannot change the River of Time. The (obviously) renegade mage somehow succeeds in switching bodies, but the new body both gains and loses godhood before being run through. Takhisis is still very mortal, very mad, and next to the mage.
3) The renegade kender mage can't cast spells during the War of Souls -- at least, not the spells that would do what the RKM wants to do. He'd probably be happy to get a magic missile off.
4) Going to the past or future won't change her status. In the future she's still mortal (unless he goes to a time when Gilean somehow wrote Takhisis back into the Book), and in the past she already exists as a god. "Mortal Takhisis" won't become "divine Takhisis" just by going into the past. In fact, there would probably be two of them: one god, one mortal -- and you know Tak won't share with herself, let alone anyone else.
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That being said, I still like the idea of a villain or organization trying to bring Takhisis back to life. I'd love to shed details about my own take on this, but my players occasionally read these boards.
Ya, sounds rediculous, I wouldn't let the PCs BE gods, but I'd certainly let them become them, then snatch the characters away for my own, and use them in future stuff.
Sounds very grade 7ish, but after many many many years months etc. of gaming, it's a good way to end a campaign.
As far as Takhisis having a soul, I'm sure she does. She was not made into a mortal god, she was a mortal, and mortals have souls.
Bringing her back? There's lots of options, for as mortal as she is she still has the mind and experiences of a god, which makes her the most likely of any being killed to come back to life. How? Who knows, but I'm sure its possible.
Will they write her back in eventually? Maybe, maybe not, but that doesn't mean your world can't evolve with a return of Takhisis and (hopefully) Paladine... it is your world after all.
When Thakisis became mortal she also became subject to the physical laws of mortals, so when she was killed, MIna stole her body (it's in the DLCS somewhere) and returned to Neraka.
In neraka, Mina attempted to ressurect Thakisis (standard ressurection spell applies for mortals ! ), but because her god was dead (clerics get power from the gods) she was too weak to fully ressurect Thakisis, so instead she managed to transfer Thakisis' soul into one of Malystryx' eggs (stolen from Malystryx when she was slain.)
With the use of the skull totem Mina and Thaksis stole from malystryx (also stated in the DLCS), Mina is accelerating Thakisis' growth, and almost a year after the WoS (where my campaign is set) Thakisis emerges from the egg, ressurected as a red dragon.
Thakisis then uses the skull totem to grow rapidly to the size of Malystryx.
But when Malystryx attempted the Rite of Ascension to become a goddess, though she failed, it stirred the balance. This, Thakisis believes, will allow Thakisis to complete the Rite of Acension, returning to godhood.
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This is my plans for Thakisis, and of course that has consequences for the rest of the world, like getting Paladine back. Mishakal and Sargonnas are unwilling to surrender their newfound power as prime gods, and the KoN/KoT are divided into the followers of the ressurected Thakisis, and those that choose to follow the mystic/sorcerer path.
Hail Thakisis !
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Originally posted by Shugi
It's a possibility, but here are the problems that I see:
4) Going to the past or future won't change her status. In the future she's still mortal (unless he goes to a time when Gilean somehow wrote Takhisis back into the Book), and in the past she already exists as a god. "Mortal Takhisis" won't become "divine Takhisis" just by going into the past. In fact, there would probably be two of them: one god, one mortal -- and you know Tak won't share with herself, let alone anyone else.
Shugi, you made some great points, but I think you missed that part where I said a, "similar looking female." The mage would not bring back the original body or the actual Tak, just some girl that looks like her, or through alter self or polymorph, exactly like Tak. Course, anything is feesable if the DM is willing to interpret things differently, right?
Originally posted by Eylwn Highmoon
Here is my campaign idea for post-WoS.
Thakisis then uses the skull totem to grow rapidly to the size of Malystryx.
One big problem, the dragon totems are destroyed. In War of the Souls, MIna acquired the skull totoems of Skie and Malystryx and (I think) Beryl. Mirror the blind silver dragon destroyed them during Mina's battle with Malystryx.
Of course, there might be other totems. I don't remember if ALL the totems were destroyed.
Of course, there might be other totems. I don't remember if ALL the totems were destroye
According to AoM the white overlord of Southern Ergoth still has his totem. And Sable actually has two.
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