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#1 zombiegleemax Sep 28, 2003 8:03:25	I'm almost sure I read it in the DLCS somewhere, but now I can't find anything about where any elf that becomes a wizard of High Sorcery of any other than white is cast out? Is this correct? and If so, where in the book should I be looking for this information? Also if this info in covered in another thread, please point me to it post haste!
#2 zombiegleemax Sep 28, 2003 8:36:35	Yup, i think it's in the racial stuff for elves. don't quote me on this. it is in the DLCS though.
#3 zombiegleemax Sep 28, 2003 9:03:17	High Sorcery, page 71 three paragraphs down under races.
#4 zombiegleemax Sep 28, 2003 13:35:32	yes, it is in there. Elves can only take on the white robes to be considrered "true" and not dark elves. What about renegades?
#5 zombiegleemax Sep 28, 2003 22:22:20	Zug Zug. All Elven mages are white robes. If they are not, they are cast out. A renagade elven mage is cast out (assuming they are being fairly obvious about it of course). Elves will toss out any mage that makes his intention clear that he dosen't seek the white robes. Cheers
#6 zombiegleemax Sep 29, 2003 0:22:25	One word: Dalamar:whatsthis
#7 zombiegleemax Sep 29, 2003 7:36:43	One word: Dalamar:whatsthis Okay, I knew about that one, but he's a black robe, I was wondering if a Red robe would be okay. From what I can tell though, it would not fly very well. Oh well, the Lone elf among the humans could be fun also.
#8 zombiegleemax Sep 29, 2003 13:24:08	In AoM, under the description of the Crimson Keep, the mother of the Lord of the keep is a Red Robed elven wizard. She is a Dark Elf because of her choice of Robes.
#9 zombiegleemax Sep 30, 2003 15:03:53	To be anything other than a white robe is to be a dark elf.
#10 zombiegleemax Sep 30, 2003 15:14:37	Elves represent purity and goodness. Neutrality isn't goodness, since neutral people perform acts that are neither good nor bad.
#11 zombiegleemax Jun 28, 2004 12:48:54	Does being a dark elf mean anything anymore since the elves really have no place to be thrown out of anymore?
#12 zombiegleemax Jun 28, 2004 13:29:04	From what Blackthorn was saying there are supposedly similar rules for Irda. Is this correct ? ~~~
#13 zombiegleemax Jun 28, 2004 13:32:55	I am not sure about that, that is why I am asking. I thought I read somewhere that Irda were afraid of doing things that were not good so that they wouldnt turn into the twisted ogres.
#14 zombiegleemax Jun 28, 2004 13:35:02	Originally posted by Amaron Blackthorn I am not sure about that, that is why I am asking. I thought I read somewhere that Irda were afraid of doing things that were not good so that they wouldnt turn into the twisted ogres. You MAY be right. Since I do not have my books with me at the time I cannot check. ~~~
#15 zombiegleemax Jun 28, 2004 13:39:36	Let me know if my theory is correct.
#16 Nived Jun 28, 2004 16:17:48	I recall in Autumn Twilight the Qualinesti looking down their noses at Raistlin because he wore the red robes (at that time) which they thought of as "a step away from black" which I guess in his case was true... But one has to ask... given the current time frame of the setting are the elves in a position to cast anyone out? I mean who would cast them out from what? Traditionally a 'dark elf' is cast out to such an extent that its illegal to say their name, but given the current state of the elven nations it'd be hard to cast someone out. Still I'm sure elves would refuse to associate with a elf they say sporting the red robes.
#17 quentingeorge Jun 28, 2004 16:58:32	Seeing as how the elves have no homelands, being a "Dark Elf" has lost its sting somewhat. In fact, the Dark elves (Dalamar and the one in Ergoth) seem to be doing better than the rest of their brethren.
#18 karui_kage Jun 28, 2004 18:23:30	Dark Elf does not necessarily mean 'bad elf', but just 'one who is cast from the light'. Since only White Robes are Good, and by the elven definition, 'in the light', any other robes would be dark elves. This means little in Age of Mortals, save that any non-dark elf would tend to shun the dark elf, and do their best not to consort/talk/anything with them at all, and avoid them at all possible. Heck, even when two officials HAD to meet with Dalamar to help their 'plan', they were nigh against it, even when not meeting with him would ruin their huge important plans. They almost walked out a few times just because they were talking to him. Its just a huge symbol really. Not just shunned from their racial homelands, but all non-dark elves would shun them too. Not as often, but even some dark elves shun other dark elves, but most of the time they usually have common ground.
#19 zombiegleemax Jun 29, 2004 13:27:54	True, Alhana and Porthios had never done anything wrong and were cast out as dark elves. But wearing black or red robes is more obvious than simply having a differing political opinion. Maybe the elves that cast them out were inforcing their own version of the PATRIOT ACT? Mayhap perhaps.