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#1
zombiegleemax
Sep 29, 2003 18:20:54 These are a few darks that came across and I was wondering if anyone had yet to uncove them. Facts are always welcome; speculation is appreciated as long as it has enough support to prove it's not total screed.

Whatever really happened to Kiaransalee, the drow power who took over Naratyr in Orcus's absence? The Manual of the Planes suggests that she vanished and that Orcus returned as an undead power called Tenebrous who had an ability or artifact that enabled him to destroy gods. Did he put Kiaransalee in the dead-book (which seems really likely) or did some other fate befall her?

What happens when you die as a petitioner? Does your soul get permanently cast into oblivion or are you reborn as yet another petitioner?

More darks to come as I seek them out...
#2
primemover003
Sep 29, 2003 18:59:27 Well Tertek, Kiaransalee is doing both well and not so well, depending on which Prime world you are on. On Toril, she is capitalizing on the recent Silence of Lolth. Her minions are sowing discord and outright revolution in the various dark elven cities of the Underdark. On Oerth however, she isn't faring well. When her followers in the Vault of the Drow started a civil war with the aid of the Githyanki, they were eventually defeated. Kiaransalee is now a wholly new deity, the spelling of her name is even slightly different (I can't remember how it's spelled but it was in the Drow flavored Dragon magazine that came out a few years ago).

In either case she is a part of the Drow Pantheon and resides somewhere in the Demonweb.
#3
zombiegleemax
Sep 29, 2003 19:07:37 Well now. That all depends on what your group did with the Dead Gods adventure. Orcus returned as Tenebrous, and did indeed gain the power to kill gods with a single word, Kiransalee got real paranoid-like and shut down the borders to her realm. Tenebrous either was destroyed from within by the power he gained, or managed to get his wand back and lived happily ever after, most likely slaughtering other gods wholesale, or whatever else the DM deemed appropriate.
#4
Shemeska_the_Marauder
Sep 29, 2003 19:48:30 What they said pretty much.

Orcus was consumed by the power of The Last Word. And oh would this 'loth love to get her hands on the dark of that. But after his death, for the second time, he was returned to life by his last remaining priest, by means largely unknown to any but the two of them.

Since then it would appear that Orcus is an Abyssal Lord reborn in most every way imaginable. Though if he still has the powers of a true deity are a good question. He has seemingly retaken his Abyssal layer, with Kiaranselee fled back to the Demonweb pits and alternately faring much better, or much worse for herself back on those prime worlds she's worshipped upon. But that was mentioned before, about her situation on her prime spheres of influence.

Orcus would appear to no longer possess the power of the Last Word. Which is probably a good thing. For certain he hasn't left a wake of obliterated gods in his wake like he did when he actually had it.

As far as what happens when your petitioner dies... if the petioner is on its home plane it merges with the essence of that plane. If its not on its home plane it's obliterated beyond hope of any return. Thus why you don't see many petitioners at all who leave their native planes or the domains of their patron Power (if they're in a Power's domain).

If the petitioner has become a fiend, well, then it just gets complicated. We don't like to talk about it.

*shivers at the thought*
#5
primemover003
Sep 29, 2003 19:55:00 Of course if you're lucky enough to be an Ysgardian petitioner you are reborn every morning if you fall in glorious battle. And if Claggadin Silverbeard is your Patron, rest assured when you meet death on one of your Raids on the Lower Planes he can bring you back... seemingly alone among all the Powers in that ability.
#6
zombiegleemax
Sep 29, 2003 20:06:13 So when a petitioner on Carceri is say, betrayed and backstabbed (literally) by a fellow, he merges with the plane? I suppose that slain petitioners of powers merge with that deity's essence, then, as long as they're on their power's plane?
#7
Shemeska_the_Marauder
Sep 29, 2003 20:25:45 Hmm... primemover003 I'd forgotten about those Ysgardian petitioners and about Clangeddin as well. Thanks for that bit o' chant there.

And yes, from what I know if you're bound to a Power's domain and you die on that plane you merge with that power rather than the plane at large. Unless that power has some special caveate to the normal routine. Power's are fickle things. And I'm a 'godless Yugoloth' so to them.
#8
zombiegleemax
Sep 30, 2003 9:27:20 If you're interested in death and petitioners, you can read more on that subject in 'A Journey through paths of Silence', an article in the Bone-box Rattler Magazine - issue the first (read more about it here).

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#1 zombiegleemax Sep 29, 2003 18:20:54	These are a few darks that came across and I was wondering if anyone had yet to uncove them. Facts are always welcome; speculation is appreciated as long as it has enough support to prove it's not total screed. Whatever really happened to Kiaransalee, the drow power who took over Naratyr in Orcus's absence? The Manual of the Planes suggests that she vanished and that Orcus returned as an undead power called Tenebrous who had an ability or artifact that enabled him to destroy gods. Did he put Kiaransalee in the dead-book (which seems really likely) or did some other fate befall her? What happens when you die as a petitioner? Does your soul get permanently cast into oblivion or are you reborn as yet another petitioner? More darks to come as I seek them out...
#2 primemover003 Sep 29, 2003 18:59:27	Well Tertek, Kiaransalee is doing both well and not so well, depending on which Prime world you are on. On Toril, she is capitalizing on the recent Silence of Lolth. Her minions are sowing discord and outright revolution in the various dark elven cities of the Underdark. On Oerth however, she isn't faring well. When her followers in the Vault of the Drow started a civil war with the aid of the Githyanki, they were eventually defeated. Kiaransalee is now a wholly new deity, the spelling of her name is even slightly different (I can't remember how it's spelled but it was in the Drow flavored Dragon magazine that came out a few years ago). In either case she is a part of the Drow Pantheon and resides somewhere in the Demonweb.
#3 zombiegleemax Sep 29, 2003 19:07:37	Well now. That all depends on what your group did with the Dead Gods adventure. Orcus returned as Tenebrous, and did indeed gain the power to kill gods with a single word, Kiransalee got real paranoid-like and shut down the borders to her realm. Tenebrous either was destroyed from within by the power he gained, or managed to get his wand back and lived happily ever after, most likely slaughtering other gods wholesale, or whatever else the DM deemed appropriate.
#4 Shemeska_the_Marauder Sep 29, 2003 19:48:30	What they said pretty much. Orcus was consumed by the power of The Last Word. And oh would this 'loth love to get her hands on the dark of that. But after his death, for the second time, he was returned to life by his last remaining priest, by means largely unknown to any but the two of them. Since then it would appear that Orcus is an Abyssal Lord reborn in most every way imaginable. Though if he still has the powers of a true deity are a good question. He has seemingly retaken his Abyssal layer, with Kiaranselee fled back to the Demonweb pits and alternately faring much better, or much worse for herself back on those prime worlds she's worshipped upon. But that was mentioned before, about her situation on her prime spheres of influence. Orcus would appear to no longer possess the power of the Last Word. Which is probably a good thing. For certain he hasn't left a wake of obliterated gods in his wake like he did when he actually had it. As far as what happens when your petitioner dies... if the petioner is on its home plane it merges with the essence of that plane. If its not on its home plane it's obliterated beyond hope of any return. Thus why you don't see many petitioners at all who leave their native planes or the domains of their patron Power (if they're in a Power's domain). If the petitioner has become a fiend, well, then it just gets complicated. We don't like to talk about it. shivers at the thought
#5 primemover003 Sep 29, 2003 19:55:00	Of course if you're lucky enough to be an Ysgardian petitioner you are reborn every morning if you fall in glorious battle. And if Claggadin Silverbeard is your Patron, rest assured when you meet death on one of your Raids on the Lower Planes he can bring you back... seemingly alone among all the Powers in that ability.
#6 zombiegleemax Sep 29, 2003 20:06:13	So when a petitioner on Carceri is say, betrayed and backstabbed (literally) by a fellow, he merges with the plane? I suppose that slain petitioners of powers merge with that deity's essence, then, as long as they're on their power's plane?
#7 Shemeska_the_Marauder Sep 29, 2003 20:25:45	Hmm... primemover003 I'd forgotten about those Ysgardian petitioners and about Clangeddin as well. Thanks for that bit o' chant there. And yes, from what I know if you're bound to a Power's domain and you die on that plane you merge with that power rather than the plane at large. Unless that power has some special caveate to the normal routine. Power's are fickle things. And I'm a 'godless Yugoloth' so to them.
#8 zombiegleemax Sep 30, 2003 9:27:20	If you're interested in death and petitioners, you can read more on that subject in 'A Journey through paths of Silence', an article in the Bone-box Rattler Magazine - issue the first (read more about it here).