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#1
slivvy_gaidin
Oct 13, 2003 20:17:52 I only have 3rd edition D&D materials.
I've been slowly running the adventure "The Feast of Goblyns", and I've come across several mosters that don't appear in my 3rd edition books. Can you help me out, by giving me a rough idea of what these things are, and possible 3rd edition substitutions for them:
1) Juju Zombies
2) Leucrotta
3) Kampfult plant

Thats all the monsters that I can't identify at this moment.
#2
zombiegleemax
Oct 14, 2003 23:19:47 A Ju Ju Zombie is essentially a more powerful than average zombie. Usually created as a result of some sort of dark magical death or somesuch. A bit more damage resistant, a little magic resistant, not quite so slow and useless, that sort of thing. For 3rd edition stats you can find stats for Ju-Ju Zombies in Tome of Horrors and the Forgotten Realms Accessory The Unapproachable East I beleive.

Leucrotta are four-legged critters about the size of deer with a similar body shape and coloration. They have a head sort of like a cross between a doberman and a badger, with continuous jagged plates running the length of their jawline instead of individual teeth. If I recall correctly they're around average intelligence and possess a notoriously vicious temprement and bad breath. 3rd Edition Leucrotta stats are in Monsters of Faerun.

Kampfult plant? Well...that's one's new to me.
#3
slivvy_gaidin
Oct 15, 2003 9:29:58 Thanks for that. Now I've got some more...

-Heucuva
-Swordwraith
-Skeleton Warrior
-Soul Beckoner

(I've seen and fought against the sword wraith and skele warrior in BG, so I sort of know what they are- I just don't know how to replicate them)

The Kampfult appears to be some sort of plant that can paralyze.

I know I can always substitute my monsters, but it would be nice to use what they recommend. Besides, its a little difficult replacing monsters from this 2nd edition module, as there is no challenge rating to go by (just XP and HD)

- that Leucrotta sounds familiar, now that you've described it.
#4
zombiegleemax
Oct 15, 2003 17:47:23 As of 3.0 a heucuva is a skeletal undead critter that are usually guardians of locations like tombs or ruined temples, typically they were clerics (and occasionally paladins) who were made into heucuva as punishment for lapses of faith. They're a template creature now...it's sort of like a low-powered lich version of low to mid-level clerics/paladins, only they lose most of their sentience and personality in the conversion to nearly-mindless undead guardians. I don't have my copy handy to check, but I'm pretty sure the stats for Heucuvas are in the Fiend Folio.

A swordwraith was originally a Dragonlance monster in 2nd Edition I think, but nowadays they're yet another template creature. They're pretty simple, undead low or mid-level martial characters that have refused to die or returned from beyond for some reason, a spectral figure underneath the armor and weapons they used in life. Although they look it, they aren't actually incorporeal. 3.0 edition stats for Swordwraiths are also in the Fiend Folio.

Skeleton Warriors are now, once again, a template creature. They're typically higher level in their fighting ability, but don't boast a wide array of powers. For some reason they almost always use greatswords and their primary claim to fame is suprisingly high resistance to magic. I think the Dragonlance campaign book includes them, but I don't know that for sure. I do know however that the Tome of Horrors has updated stats for them.

Soul Beckoner...hrmm, don't know that one either.

I know how you feel, substitutions and jury-rigged monster replacements just don't /feel/ right when they recommend something specific officially.
#5
slivvy_gaidin
Oct 16, 2003 4:12:22 Cheers for the direction. Now at least I now generally where to find them.

I'll probably have more creature questions in the future, but for now, thats all.

Thanks

PS Just as a monster related question, how do you pronounce Goblyn? Is it just said the same as Goblin?
#6
zombiegleemax
Oct 16, 2003 6:27:12 The Kampfult plant is also described in the Tome of Horrors and was originally from the 1st Edition Monster Manual II.

The Soul Beckoner from Feast Of Goblyns, as far as I know, has never been described in any other tome, and should have been listed as a "New Monster" at the end of the module. What you read about it in FoG is all that I've ever seen.

and I've always pronounced Goblyn & Goblin the same...
#7
rotipher
Oct 18, 2003 20:17:14 FWIW, the kampfult actually made an appearance in one of the earliest D&D modules (Lost Shrine of Tamoachan [sp?]), in which is was described as a sort of giant, semi-aquatic sea anemone that ambushed victims by passing itself off as a dead tree. At the time, the creature didn't even have a name (!), but it later turned up in the original MMII as "kampfult".
#8
rotipher
Oct 18, 2003 20:20:05
Originally posted by Akh-Set
A Ju Ju Zombie is essentially a more powerful than average zombie. Usually created as a result of some sort of dark magical death or somesuch.

Originally, IIRC, juju zombies were created when a person was slain by the Energy Drain spell, then subjected to Animate Dead. They retained their intelligence and were quite difficult to destroy, but were forced to obey the wizard who killed/created them.
#9
slivvy_gaidin
Oct 19, 2003 20:37:12 Wow. It seems as though Tome of Horrors would be the way to go. That and the Fiend Folio. Too bad that these monsters aren't in the Denizens of Darkness book, but I suppose that they aren't specifically from Ravenloft.

Doubt I'll get it though. Hopefully, with the information you guys have provided for me, I'll be able to put a replacement moster of a similar nature into the adventure.

Thanks.
#10
zombiegleemax
Oct 20, 2003 14:25:24
Originally posted by Rotipher
FWIW, the kampfult actually made an appearance in one of the earliest D&D modules (Lost Shrine of Tamoachan [sp?]), in which is was described as a sort of giant, semi-aquatic sea anemone that ambushed victims by passing itself off as a dead tree. At the time, the creature didn't even have a name (!), but it later turned up in the original MMII as "kampfult".

Just wondering about the name "kampfult plant".
What wordplay ended up like this..
Plant is of course obvios (it is also the same word in many languages).
"kampfult" is more strange
kamp means fight in scandinavian, and it's called kampf in german.
fult could a viriant of filled, since filled is callled
fuld, fyldt, fylt or ful(d)t in scandinavian, depending on the language. Which again is becomes full in english.
So maybe it is a FightingFilled Plant, anybody got other suggestions?
#11
slivvy_gaidin
Oct 20, 2003 19:13:40 Fighting Filled Plant...

Fighting Filled-with-poison Plant?

The entry does have mention of 2 special abilities. One of them is its surprise ability (probably because few people suspect a plant), and the second is that it has some sort of paralysis attack.

Very interesting Voiceman.
#12
zombiegleemax
Nov 01, 2003 15:49:55 I don't have Feast of Goblyns, so i'm not sure it's the same thing, but I think the Soul Beckoner is from the Greyhawk Monsterous Compenduim, under 'wraith' (along with Swordwraith). It looks like a shadow, and has an enthralling ability to make people come to it, and also a wailing attack that can cause opponents to flee in terror.

-the Charlatan (whose collection of Ravenloft D&D stuff in equalled/exceeded only by his collection of Greyhawk D&D stuff).

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#1 slivvy_gaidin Oct 13, 2003 20:17:52	I only have 3rd edition D&D materials. I've been slowly running the adventure "The Feast of Goblyns", and I've come across several mosters that don't appear in my 3rd edition books. Can you help me out, by giving me a rough idea of what these things are, and possible 3rd edition substitutions for them: 1) Juju Zombies 2) Leucrotta 3) Kampfult plant Thats all the monsters that I can't identify at this moment.
#2 zombiegleemax Oct 14, 2003 23:19:47	A Ju Ju Zombie is essentially a more powerful than average zombie. Usually created as a result of some sort of dark magical death or somesuch. A bit more damage resistant, a little magic resistant, not quite so slow and useless, that sort of thing. For 3rd edition stats you can find stats for Ju-Ju Zombies in Tome of Horrors and the Forgotten Realms Accessory The Unapproachable East I beleive. Leucrotta are four-legged critters about the size of deer with a similar body shape and coloration. They have a head sort of like a cross between a doberman and a badger, with continuous jagged plates running the length of their jawline instead of individual teeth. If I recall correctly they're around average intelligence and possess a notoriously vicious temprement and bad breath. 3rd Edition Leucrotta stats are in Monsters of Faerun. Kampfult plant? Well...that's one's new to me.
#3 slivvy_gaidin Oct 15, 2003 9:29:58	Thanks for that. Now I've got some more... -Heucuva -Swordwraith -Skeleton Warrior -Soul Beckoner (I've seen and fought against the sword wraith and skele warrior in BG, so I sort of know what they are- I just don't know how to replicate them) The Kampfult appears to be some sort of plant that can paralyze. I know I can always substitute my monsters, but it would be nice to use what they recommend. Besides, its a little difficult replacing monsters from this 2nd edition module, as there is no challenge rating to go by (just XP and HD) - that Leucrotta sounds familiar, now that you've described it.
#4 zombiegleemax Oct 15, 2003 17:47:23	As of 3.0 a heucuva is a skeletal undead critter that are usually guardians of locations like tombs or ruined temples, typically they were clerics (and occasionally paladins) who were made into heucuva as punishment for lapses of faith. They're a template creature now...it's sort of like a low-powered lich version of low to mid-level clerics/paladins, only they lose most of their sentience and personality in the conversion to nearly-mindless undead guardians. I don't have my copy handy to check, but I'm pretty sure the stats for Heucuvas are in the Fiend Folio. A swordwraith was originally a Dragonlance monster in 2nd Edition I think, but nowadays they're yet another template creature. They're pretty simple, undead low or mid-level martial characters that have refused to die or returned from beyond for some reason, a spectral figure underneath the armor and weapons they used in life. Although they look it, they aren't actually incorporeal. 3.0 edition stats for Swordwraiths are also in the Fiend Folio. Skeleton Warriors are now, once again, a template creature. They're typically higher level in their fighting ability, but don't boast a wide array of powers. For some reason they almost always use greatswords and their primary claim to fame is suprisingly high resistance to magic. I think the Dragonlance campaign book includes them, but I don't know that for sure. I do know however that the Tome of Horrors has updated stats for them. Soul Beckoner...hrmm, don't know that one either. I know how you feel, substitutions and jury-rigged monster replacements just don't /feel/ right when they recommend something specific officially.
#5 slivvy_gaidin Oct 16, 2003 4:12:22	Cheers for the direction. Now at least I now generally where to find them. I'll probably have more creature questions in the future, but for now, thats all. Thanks PS Just as a monster related question, how do you pronounce Goblyn? Is it just said the same as Goblin?
#6 zombiegleemax Oct 16, 2003 6:27:12	The Kampfult plant is also described in the Tome of Horrors and was originally from the 1st Edition Monster Manual II. The Soul Beckoner from Feast Of Goblyns, as far as I know, has never been described in any other tome, and should have been listed as a "New Monster" at the end of the module. What you read about it in FoG is all that I've ever seen. and I've always pronounced Goblyn & Goblin the same...
#7 rotipher Oct 18, 2003 20:17:14	FWIW, the kampfult actually made an appearance in one of the earliest D&D modules (Lost Shrine of Tamoachan [sp?]), in which is was described as a sort of giant, semi-aquatic sea anemone that ambushed victims by passing itself off as a dead tree. At the time, the creature didn't even have a name (!), but it later turned up in the original MMII as "kampfult".
#8 rotipher Oct 18, 2003 20:20:05	Originally posted by Akh-Set A Ju Ju Zombie is essentially a more powerful than average zombie. Usually created as a result of some sort of dark magical death or somesuch. Originally, IIRC, juju zombies were created when a person was slain by the Energy Drain spell, then subjected to Animate Dead. They retained their intelligence and were quite difficult to destroy, but were forced to obey the wizard who killed/created them.
#9 slivvy_gaidin Oct 19, 2003 20:37:12	Wow. It seems as though Tome of Horrors would be the way to go. That and the Fiend Folio. Too bad that these monsters aren't in the Denizens of Darkness book, but I suppose that they aren't specifically from Ravenloft. Doubt I'll get it though. Hopefully, with the information you guys have provided for me, I'll be able to put a replacement moster of a similar nature into the adventure. Thanks.
#10 zombiegleemax Oct 20, 2003 14:25:24	Originally posted by Rotipher FWIW, the kampfult actually made an appearance in one of the earliest D&D modules (Lost Shrine of Tamoachan [sp?]), in which is was described as a sort of giant, semi-aquatic sea anemone that ambushed victims by passing itself off as a dead tree. At the time, the creature didn't even have a name (!), but it later turned up in the original MMII as "kampfult". Just wondering about the name "kampfult plant". What wordplay ended up like this.. Plant is of course obvios (it is also the same word in many languages). "kampfult" is more strange kamp means fight in scandinavian, and it's called kampf in german. fult could a viriant of filled, since filled is callled fuld, fyldt, fylt or ful(d)t in scandinavian, depending on the language. Which again is becomes full in english. So maybe it is a FightingFilled Plant, anybody got other suggestions?
#11 slivvy_gaidin Oct 20, 2003 19:13:40	Fighting Filled Plant... Fighting Filled-with-poison Plant? The entry does have mention of 2 special abilities. One of them is its surprise ability (probably because few people suspect a plant), and the second is that it has some sort of paralysis attack. Very interesting Voiceman.
#12 zombiegleemax Nov 01, 2003 15:49:55	I don't have Feast of Goblyns, so i'm not sure it's the same thing, but I think the Soul Beckoner is from the Greyhawk Monsterous Compenduim, under 'wraith' (along with Swordwraith). It looks like a shadow, and has an enthralling ability to make people come to it, and also a wailing attack that can cause opponents to flee in terror. -the Charlatan (whose collection of Ravenloft D&D stuff in equalled/exceeded only by his collection of Greyhawk D&D stuff).