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#1 Greyson Oct 28, 2003 11:41:51	I have wondered for years what the correct pronunciation for the Flanaess is. We pronounce it FLUH-ness. But, we also say Flan, with the "a" as in bat or land. Then, over the weekend I heard a kid say FLAHN-eese, "eese" as in geese.
#2 cwslyclgh Oct 28, 2003 12:10:53	I generaly say FLAN-ess or FLAN-ase depending on who in my campaign is talking.
#3 zombiegleemax Oct 28, 2003 14:41:01	I usually say FLAN-ay-ess the -ay sounds like the letter a and the -ess like the letter s except they are kinda rolled into each other.
#4 zombiegleemax Oct 28, 2003 14:49:16	FLAY-Ness
#5 zombiegleemax Oct 29, 2003 5:32:46	Players Guide to Greyhawk page 5 Pronunciation: Flanaess -> flah NES Flannae -> flah NYE
#6 gadodel Oct 29, 2003 5:46:33	Drow rhymes with Cow Lich rhymes with Like Orc rhymes with Dork Elf rhymes with Shelf :D Flanaess rhymes with Dan Ace etc
#7 zombiegleemax Oct 29, 2003 11:09:47	Morphious ends the Flaness debate Drow rhymes with Row Lich rhymes with rich at least you got orc and elf right
#8 zombiegleemax Oct 29, 2003 11:18:14	Can't say for sure with lich, but everything else Gadodel says is how Gygax pronounces them, not that Gygax is given too much respect around here. No particular pronounciation can be considered wrong, but if you are interested in how the individual who created them intended them to be pronounced, then Gadodel is spot on. Scott
#9 zombiegleemax Oct 29, 2003 19:28:44	Originally posted by ScottyG Can't say for sure with lich, but everything else Gadodel says is how Gygax pronounces them, not that Gygax is given too much respect around here. No particular pronounciation can be considered wrong, but if you are interested in how the individual who created them intended them to be pronounced, then Gadodel is spot on. Scott I wouldn't say he is disrespected here, more that he isn't given absolute and utter, infallible and fervent, blind and obedient devotion like he is on other boards. I mean, really... next you'll be saying he invented the wheel... http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=lich Originally posted by rostoff Drow rhymes with Row Originally posted by Gadodel Lich rhymes with Like You know, y'all should really think about how adamant you want to be about those pronounciations. I mean... think about it, really think about it... "Oh my god, it's a LICK!" "You turn the bend and run into a band of... DRO!" Bleh.
#10 zombiegleemax Oct 29, 2003 19:31:23	Oh, and just for the record, I also refuse to throw my players up against a tarrask. In my games, it's the legendary TarraSKEW!
#11 zombiegleemax Oct 30, 2003 1:54:07	Originally posted by Delglath "Oh my god, it's a LICK!" "You turn the bend and run into a band of... DRO!" Bleh. LOL [ insert purile humour here -> ] ...and the most dangerous of all foes ... the arch-lickers.... Chuckle. Snort. Tee-hee.
#12 zombiegleemax Oct 30, 2003 3:03:39	Originally posted by Morphious LOL [ insert purile humour here -> ] ...and the most dangerous of all foes ... the arch-lickers.... Chuckle. Snort. Tee-hee. Don't forget the dreaded demi-licks :D
#13 gadodel Oct 30, 2003 5:19:21	Oh come on, everyone knows that Licks are as scary as the Boogerman... :D
#14 zombiegleemax Oct 30, 2003 16:14:59	Originally posted by Gadodel Lich rhymes with Like Which rich lich stitches britches to bewitch? Or eye twitch? Or jock itch? Or light switch? Or high pitch? Lich... lich... lich...
#15 extempus Feb 14, 2006 4:40:10	Drow rhymes with Cow Lich rhymes with Like Orc rhymes with Dork Elf rhymes with Shelf :D Flanaess rhymes with Dan Ace etc I pronounce them all the same way... dunno about the last one though, lol... Actually, I've always pronounced Flanaess "Flah-NEESE" and Flannae "FLAN-ay."
#16 zombiegleemax Jul 25, 2006 11:43:58	I believe it to be a case that depends upon the perspective of which it is or will be used. Some things to consider... Author's Intended Dialect: English phonology is the study of the phonology (ie the sound system) of the English language. Like all languages, spoken English has wide variation in its pronunciation both diachronically and synchronically from dialect to dialect. Which race upon Oerik was the name derived from? What is their native dialect and what can be gleaned from researching the intended or proposed etymology? Initial-stress-derived Noun: Initial-stress-derivation is a phonological process in English, wherein verbs become nouns or adjectives when the stress is moved to the first syllable from a later one -- usually, but not always, the second. This is gradually becoming more standardized in some English dialects, but is not present in all, and the list of affected words differs from area to area. Perhaps 100 verb-noun (or adjective) pairs exist in total. Some examples are: [INDENT]conflict as a verb, "I hope that won't conFLICT in any way." as a noun, "There will be no CONflict." record as a verb, "Remember to reCORD the show!". as a noun, "I'll keep a RECord of that request." permit as a verb, "I won't perMIT that." as a noun, "We already got a PERmit." [/INDENT]Spelling Variant: Roughly, the more common a word the more likely that the change from flat /æ/ to broad /ah/ took place. It also looks as if monosyllables were more likely to change than polysyllables. The æ-tensing: æ-tensing is a phenomenon found in many varieties of American English by which the vowel /æ/ has a longer, higher, and usually diphthongal pronunciation in some environments, usually to something like [ei]. In some American accents, /æ/ and /ea/ are apparently now separate phonemes Letters Originating As Ligatures:[list][*]The form
#17 ripvanwormer Jul 25, 2006 15:16:42	...the aformentioned being my debate and reasoning for Geoff being a hard ‘G’ instead of the normal soft ‘G’. Geoff - (Gee-OFF) "Jeff." As in Geoffrey. ...I had a friend in high school who spelled his name Geoff. The Grand Duchy was 'his.'
#18 zombiegleemax Jul 25, 2006 15:58:25	"Jeff." As in Geoffrey. ...I had a friend in high school who spelled his name Geoff. The Grand Duchy was 'his.' Agreed, ..."Geoff" in general is commonly pronouced as "Jeff" by some. However, my conjecture is based upon the exceptions to the general rule for soft G versus hard G. It merely provids the debate, (and my preference), as to how, and or why it could legitimately, (by both grammer and phonetics), be pronounced as (Gee-OFF). Whether it's usage would be for an alternative racial or regional dialect, flavor or rather something unique or perhaps eccentric is up to the individual DM.
#19 zombiegleemax Aug 07, 2006 21:07:47	I always used "flan-ace."