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#1
zombiegleemax
Oct 29, 2003 10:44:40 Is the Nightmare Lands still around in 3e RL?
#2
zombiegleemax
Oct 29, 2003 14:34:42 Not formally, no.
#3
zombiegleemax
Oct 29, 2003 14:35:49
Originally posted by The MadStepDad
Not formally, no.

What the happened to them ?
#4
zombiegleemax
Oct 29, 2003 14:41:42 Good question. I suppose we hafta wait for the corresponding Gz.
#5
zombiegleemax
Oct 29, 2003 14:43:34
Originally posted by The MadStepDad
Good question. I suppose we hafta wait for the corresponding Gz.

Most of the changes they made were not needed. I guess they were done for legal reasons. I am not too versed on what went on between s&s and the wizO's.

~The Dark 1~
#6
scipio
Oct 29, 2003 14:45:14
Originally posted by The MadStepDad
Not formally, no.

A more correct answer would be "Yes, they still exist, but they haven't been detailed yet." There are only two domains from 2E that no longer exist as far as I know: Tovag (or whatever Kas' domain was called) and Cavitius.
#7
zombiegleemax
Oct 29, 2003 14:49:33
Originally posted by Scipio
A more correct answer would be "Yes, they still exist, but they haven't been detailed yet." There are only two domains from 2E that no longer exist as far as I know: Tovag (or whatever Kas' domain was called) and Cavitius.

What happened to those 2 domains?
#8
zombiegleemax
Oct 29, 2003 14:57:20
Originally posted by Scipio
they still exist, but they haven't been detailed yet.

Then they don't formally exist.
#9
zombiegleemax
Oct 30, 2003 1:24:49 Torvag and Cavitus were destroyed when Vecna used them to make a time/space bridge to the heart of Sigil of the Planescape campaign as part of his bid to become the "Big Kahuna" of all the planes. Vecna pulled this off by learning the secretes of the dark powers which in turn gave him power over them.

-Eric Gorman

PS - I believe the Kargatane are begining work on something involving Dr. Ilhausen and the nightmare lands.
#10
zombiegleemax
Oct 30, 2003 12:37:20
Originally posted by HvF
Torvag and Cavitus were destroyed when Vecna used them to make a time/space bridge to the heart of Sigil of the Planescape campaign as part of his bid to become the "Big Kahuna" of all the planes. Vecna pulled this off by learning the secretes of the dark powers which in turn gave him power over them.

-Eric Gorman

PS - I believe the Kargatane are begining work on something involving Dr. Ilhausen and the nightmare lands.

What adventure did this happen in?
#11
zombiegleemax
Oct 30, 2003 13:19:56 He's referring to the adventure Die Vecna Die, but I don't know if it's explicitly stated in that adventure that those domains were destroyed. I think it was just inferred.

Either way, you can keep them if you want, discard them if you don't.
#12
zombiegleemax
Oct 30, 2003 13:22:34
Originally posted by The MadStepDad
He's referring to the adventure Die Vecna Die, but I don't know if it's explicitly stated in that adventure that those domains were destroyed. I think it was just inferred.

Either way, you can keep them if you want, discard them if you don't.

I need a copy of the Domains of Dread book. And right now I do not have the spare dough to get one...got bills dunn.

~The Dark 1~
#13
zombiegleemax
Oct 30, 2003 13:43:58 LOL. I hear that, dunny (do you like Mobb Deep?)

When you DO get the spare cash, I highly recommend DoD. Yeah it's kinda old, yeah it's 2E, but screw it. It's still the best campaign setting book I've seen. Better than the 3E one in my opinion.
#14
zombiegleemax
Oct 30, 2003 14:08:13 I am hoping that the Nightmare Lands will be outlined in 3e someday, but frankly the rules for dream effects are going to need *heavy* revision to take into account the greater use of skills in 3e vs. 2nd edition.
#15
zombiegleemax
Oct 30, 2003 14:13:04
Originally posted by The MadStepDad
LOL. I hear that, dunny (do you like Mobb Deep?)

When you DO get the spare cash, I highly recommend DoD. Yeah it's kinda old, yeah it's 2E, but screw it. It's still the best campaign setting book I've seen. Better than the 3E one in my opinion.

2e or 3e still [b]RAVENLOFT[/b]. That is all I care about... I convert the 2e to 3e anyway.

~The Dark 1~
#16
william_cairnstone_dup
Nov 07, 2003 7:38:32
Originally posted by The MadStepDad
LOL. I hear that, dunny (do you like Mobb Deep?)

When you DO get the spare cash, I highly recommend DoD. Yeah it's kinda old, yeah it's 2E, but screw it. It's still the best campaign setting book I've seen. Better than the 3E one in my opinion.

Yes, definitely. The first RL book I bought and never disappointed me. Ok, at the time, it didn't tell me everything I wanted to know, but still very good.
And later I bought RL 3E and I think it is inferior. Of course this is a matter of taste, but I didn't like the art in 3E and that makes a big difference to me.

Before anyone beings chastising me for preferring one book over another for the art, that's not what I meant. I said that is just one of the reasons, but in whole, DoD quality was better.

W.C.
#17
zombiegleemax
Nov 08, 2003 16:50:36
Originally posted by William Cairnstone
Yes, definitely. The first RL book I bought and never disappointed me. Ok, at the time, it didn't tell me everything I wanted to know, but still very good.
And later I bought RL 3E and I think it is inferior. Of course this is a matter of taste, but I didn't like the art in 3E and that makes a big difference to me.

Before anyone beings chastising me for preferring one book over another for the art, that's not what I meant. I said that is just one of the reasons, but in whole, DoD quality was better.

W.C.

well There artwork, but what mostly disapoints me of RL d20 is the lack of Darklord information. I know this was explained as a (We needed optimum space and you can have the Darklords in a futur realise) but still It disapointed me. as a more general comentairy on D20 and 3ed books in the second ed there where stories histories, habitats and a bunch of mini-stories in the books now it seems there's game stat after stat after stat.
#18
b4real
Nov 24, 2003 19:16:47
Originally posted by Northen_Spur
well There artwork, but what mostly disapoints me of RL d20 is the lack of Darklord information. I know this was explained as a (We needed optimum space and you can have the Darklords in a futur realise) but still It disapointed me. as a more general comentairy on D20 and 3ed books in the second ed there where stories histories, habitats and a bunch of mini-stories in the books now it seems there's game stat after stat after stat.

I personally think that RL lost some of its feel in 3e. :sad:

~B4Real

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 zombiegleemax Oct 29, 2003 10:44:40	Is the Nightmare Lands still around in 3e RL?
#2 zombiegleemax Oct 29, 2003 14:34:42	Not formally, no.
#3 zombiegleemax Oct 29, 2003 14:35:49	Originally posted by The MadStepDad Not formally, no. What the happened to them ?
#4 zombiegleemax Oct 29, 2003 14:41:42	Good question. I suppose we hafta wait for the corresponding Gz.
#5 zombiegleemax Oct 29, 2003 14:43:34	Originally posted by The MadStepDad Good question. I suppose we hafta wait for the corresponding Gz. Most of the changes they made were not needed. I guess they were done for legal reasons. I am not too versed on what went on between s&s and the wizO's. ~The Dark 1~
#6 scipio Oct 29, 2003 14:45:14	Originally posted by The MadStepDad Not formally, no. A more correct answer would be "Yes, they still exist, but they haven't been detailed yet." There are only two domains from 2E that no longer exist as far as I know: Tovag (or whatever Kas' domain was called) and Cavitius.
#7 zombiegleemax Oct 29, 2003 14:49:33	Originally posted by Scipio A more correct answer would be "Yes, they still exist, but they haven't been detailed yet." There are only two domains from 2E that no longer exist as far as I know: Tovag (or whatever Kas' domain was called) and Cavitius. What happened to those 2 domains?
#8 zombiegleemax Oct 29, 2003 14:57:20	Originally posted by Scipio they still exist, but they haven't been detailed yet. Then they don't formally exist.
#9 zombiegleemax Oct 30, 2003 1:24:49	Torvag and Cavitus were destroyed when Vecna used them to make a time/space bridge to the heart of Sigil of the Planescape campaign as part of his bid to become the "Big Kahuna" of all the planes. Vecna pulled this off by learning the secretes of the dark powers which in turn gave him power over them. -Eric Gorman PS - I believe the Kargatane are begining work on something involving Dr. Ilhausen and the nightmare lands.
#10 zombiegleemax Oct 30, 2003 12:37:20	Originally posted by HvF Torvag and Cavitus were destroyed when Vecna used them to make a time/space bridge to the heart of Sigil of the Planescape campaign as part of his bid to become the "Big Kahuna" of all the planes. Vecna pulled this off by learning the secretes of the dark powers which in turn gave him power over them. -Eric Gorman PS - I believe the Kargatane are begining work on something involving Dr. Ilhausen and the nightmare lands. What adventure did this happen in?
#11 zombiegleemax Oct 30, 2003 13:19:56	He's referring to the adventure Die Vecna Die, but I don't know if it's explicitly stated in that adventure that those domains were destroyed. I think it was just inferred. Either way, you can keep them if you want, discard them if you don't.
#12 zombiegleemax Oct 30, 2003 13:22:34	Originally posted by The MadStepDad He's referring to the adventure Die Vecna Die, but I don't know if it's explicitly stated in that adventure that those domains were destroyed. I think it was just inferred. Either way, you can keep them if you want, discard them if you don't. I need a copy of the Domains of Dread book. And right now I do not have the spare dough to get one...got bills dunn. ~The Dark 1~
#13 zombiegleemax Oct 30, 2003 13:43:58	LOL. I hear that, dunny (do you like Mobb Deep?) When you DO get the spare cash, I highly recommend DoD. Yeah it's kinda old, yeah it's 2E, but screw it. It's still the best campaign setting book I've seen. Better than the 3E one in my opinion.
#14 zombiegleemax Oct 30, 2003 14:08:13	I am hoping that the Nightmare Lands will be outlined in 3e someday, but frankly the rules for dream effects are going to need heavy revision to take into account the greater use of skills in 3e vs. 2nd edition.
#15 zombiegleemax Oct 30, 2003 14:13:04	Originally posted by The MadStepDad LOL. I hear that, dunny (do you like Mobb Deep?) When you DO get the spare cash, I highly recommend DoD. Yeah it's kinda old, yeah it's 2E, but screw it. It's still the best campaign setting book I've seen. Better than the 3E one in my opinion. 2e or 3e still [b]RAVENLOFT[/b]. That is all I care about... I convert the 2e to 3e anyway. ~The Dark 1~
#16 william_cairnstone_dup Nov 07, 2003 7:38:32	Originally posted by The MadStepDad LOL. I hear that, dunny (do you like Mobb Deep?) When you DO get the spare cash, I highly recommend DoD. Yeah it's kinda old, yeah it's 2E, but screw it. It's still the best campaign setting book I've seen. Better than the 3E one in my opinion. Yes, definitely. The first RL book I bought and never disappointed me. Ok, at the time, it didn't tell me everything I wanted to know, but still very good. And later I bought RL 3E and I think it is inferior. Of course this is a matter of taste, but I didn't like the art in 3E and that makes a big difference to me. Before anyone beings chastising me for preferring one book over another for the art, that's not what I meant. I said that is just one of the reasons, but in whole, DoD quality was better. W.C.
#17 zombiegleemax Nov 08, 2003 16:50:36	Originally posted by William Cairnstone Yes, definitely. The first RL book I bought and never disappointed me. Ok, at the time, it didn't tell me everything I wanted to know, but still very good. And later I bought RL 3E and I think it is inferior. Of course this is a matter of taste, but I didn't like the art in 3E and that makes a big difference to me. Before anyone beings chastising me for preferring one book over another for the art, that's not what I meant. I said that is just one of the reasons, but in whole, DoD quality was better. W.C. well There artwork, but what mostly disapoints me of RL d20 is the lack of Darklord information. I know this was explained as a (We needed optimum space and you can have the Darklords in a futur realise) but still It disapointed me. as a more general comentairy on D20 and 3ed books in the second ed there where stories histories, habitats and a bunch of mini-stories in the books now it seems there's game stat after stat after stat.
#18 b4real Nov 24, 2003 19:16:47	Originally posted by Northen_Spur well There artwork, but what mostly disapoints me of RL d20 is the lack of Darklord information. I know this was explained as a (We needed optimum space and you can have the Darklords in a futur realise) but still It disapointed me. as a more general comentairy on D20 and 3ed books in the second ed there where stories histories, habitats and a bunch of mini-stories in the books now it seems there's game stat after stat after stat. I personally think that RL lost some of its feel in 3e. :sad: ~B4Real