Set up just like the 'official' Children of the Night books, I just wish I had a bette printer and that ink cartriges were cheaper so I could print the puppy out.
ARGH! SOOO MUCH TRAGEDY!
Originally posted by Bela Reborn
I have been voraciously reading the COTN-Demons, and was happy to see a final release w/ Kraxat. However, I thought 13 demons had been selected to be in the final version. I suppose we may never know what the final 2 were....
Yes, there were intended to be 13 demons. Some of those selected for inclusion didn't end up getting written, however, so that's why we had the gap.
Stu
Originally posted by primol
but woldn't it be possible to see those submissions that didn't «get written»?
Take a minute and think about that for a while.
Originally posted by John W. Mangrum
Like Stu said, some of the demons selected for inclusion weren't written. To create CotN, we put out a call for proposals -- very short descriptions of what the authors would, if selected, then write up in full. Out of the thirteen proposals I selected, one author vanished on us entirely; I don't recall what happened with the other one.
I believe that other one would be me.
I wrote the story of "Rhesus, the Blood Fiend". It was about a demon made of blood that preyed upon people in a small village in Richemulot through a waterworks system built by a local scientist (now turned a vampire, prime suspect in the adventure). People were killed while they took their baths, and the corpses were left drained of their blood, with twin puncture marks on their necks (purposedly left by the demon). With each kill, the demon grew, eventually being so huge he could be throughout the entire waterworks system at once. The key to defeating him lied in a sample of "leukemia virus" from the scientist's laboratory.
This all goes back many, many years, so my memory is a bit fuzzy... but from what I recall, I sent my text, John and I worked out some bits together (I remember "Rhesus" made you think of Rhesus monkeys), I sent a final version... and I didn't receive any other news, and never saw it published.
I suppose the file got lost, or one of us didn't receive one of the other's emails.
Originally posted by Maje
This all goes back many, many years, so my memory is a bit fuzzy... but from what I recall, I sent my text, John and I worked out some bits together (I remember "Rhesus" made you think of Rhesus monkeys), I sent a final version... and I didn't receive any other news, and never saw it published.
Ah, yes; that's true. I forgot about Rhesus, and don't know why it wasn't included.
It's the submission and such e-mail for the Quoth the Raven netzine. Their next issue is on fiends and demons. They'd probably be happy to accept it.
And I don't think the Kargatane still has a copy of it.
Still, I got most of it fresh in mind. I'll keep that adress noted down, and if I have the chance, I'll rewrite it, and update it to 3rd edition.
Is there a website for Quoth the Raven? I can't seem to find it...
Originally posted by The_Jester
It's the submission and such e-mail for the Quoth the Raven netzine. Their next issue is on fiends and demons. They'd probably be happy to accept it.
With the closing of the Kargatane website, Quoth the Raven is on a temporary hiatus. We would, however, be more than happy to include any fiend related submissions that you might be willing to send our way.
Originally posted by Maje
I would love to, but I'm afraid the file was lost in numerous formatting and changes of computer. Still, I got most of it fresh in mind. I'll keep that adress noted down, and if I have the chance, I'll rewrite it, and update it to 3rd edition.
As I mentioned in the post above, we are not making any progress on the next issue of Quoth the Raven at this point and time (we have too much going on in the next month or two). You are always more than welcome to submit materials to us, though.
Originally posted by Maje
Is there a website for Quoth the Raven? I can't seem to find it...
Unfortunately, there is no website for Quoth the Raven at this point and time. We had been using the Kargatane website to host each of our issues, and there hasn't been a replacement site since the Kargatane was shut down. We have, however, combined forces with the USS and are currently trying to create/establish some sort of website to host the various netbooks and netzines that the fans create.
Javier
Some spell-checking and page formatting might be a lovely change from dealing with a website and starting a forum.
Expecting good things from ya Javier.
Anyhoo, I am gratefull for CotN:Demons including land-based powers. Their removal from VRMHC:3 was a pain in the arse. The inclusion of the Black Duke was an interesting suprise, nice to see a familiar face.
Originally posted by John W. Mangrum
Out of the thirteen proposals I selected, one author vanished on us entirely; I don't recall what happened with the other one.
I may be able to help. I was the author of one of those missing proposals, a fiend called "Laika." Having already submitted my own concept, I gave the proposal to a friend of mine, who submitted it in her own name, and when it won, she chose to flesh out the demon and the scenario herself.
I'm not sure what happened, but after reading this thread, I called her, and she said she had sent the final draft in and then washed her hands of it, frustrated with some of the elements of the process. Although she claimed her draft was complete, the Kargatane didn't get a complete draft, so there was obviously something more to be done.
My friend will be searching through her files for copies of her work on Laika, which she will be handing over to me to complete. Although I realize the Kargatane have also retired from this project, I would appreciate any copies of the incomplete information that I can take off your hands.
With any luck, Laika will be reappearing in one of the next netbooks.
-Eric Gorman
Originally posted by Cole Deschain
I like the fleshed-out Black Duke, personally.
Thank you.
The missing demons were Rhesus, a blood elemental (whose adventure has already been explained) and Elsepeth, a succubus.
Elsepeth sadly only exists in proposal form.
Worked quite good although I made few errors concerning the mood(I always do in hindsight).
Thanks to the autor of this one, and thanks to the Kargatane for this great book and all their years of effort!
@Ryan: The same Elsepeth as the one in VRG to Fiends? Still have a villain running around, loosely based upon her. The players really love to hate her ;)
Originally posted by Ryan Naylor
Thank you.
The missing demons were Rhesus, a blood elemental (whose adventure has already been explained) and Elsepeth, a succubus.
Elsepeth sadly only exists in proposal form.
Really?!?
What happened to Laika? Melissa Thom said she made it past the proposal form.
I'm confused.
Originally posted by Awakenings
What happened to Laika? Melissa Thom said she made it past the proposal form.
With all due respect to Ryan, I'm pretty sure that it was Laika we accepted. Elsepeth came up a lot during the selection process, but only in that we received several succubus proposals, and we generally agreed not to add a new succubus to the setting when Elsepeth herself could be further developed.
We then never received anything further from Laika's author.
al-kathos (or something like that): Great demon, in fact my favorite. The adventure is also pretty cool, though the climax is a little confusing. Makes a great reoccuring atangonist.
Black Duke: Cool demon and cool adventure, though I will probably run the adventure and the suggested followups as one adventure. The only wrong note is the use of suggestion on the pc's while their listening to the speech at the school.
Boreas: Cool demon, and cool adventure though I will probably eliminate the monster hunter from the adventure, since I think it will be creepier if the pc's have no explanation of what Boreas is. Loved the charts showing the affects of each tier
Credimori: Good demon, though I will probably allow everybody saves against its charm abilities instead of only paladins, priests and those traveling with them. After all the dc is 25, I doubt many villagers can make those saves anyway so why deny them the save. I can't really use the adventure since every assumption the adventure makes of the pc's actions is exactly opposite of what my players would do. Do like the idea of a demon of intolerance.
penible: Good demon and adventure though I think the adventure requires a lot of work in introducing npcs prior to the start of the adventure. Probably will give him the masochist feat from book of vile darkness
kraxat: Great demon and good adventure, though the ending is a little corny. I plan on having the wild children be the actual children instead of their souls that way when they die, their bodies will convert into children in front of the pc's. I'm considering actually making the demon a child instead of an adult.
marasmos: Great demon and good adventure. Though i wasn't clear on how the demon advances the disease. Probably the most unique demon of the bunch.