4 Years ago i purchased the Dark Sun boxed set and saw an entry on the city of Kalidnay. It said that an unknown disaster fell on the city and it is now ruined and filled with monsters.
The name reminded me of something and so i searched the Domains of Bread.... sorry Dread and saw the Kalidnay island of terror. (This is the name isn't it? I don't have the books right noe but i am pretty sure it's Kalidnay. Please correct me if i am wrong.)
The question is this. Have you ever read about a similar kind of thing. Like what became of Kartakas after it joined Ravenloft?
Is it possible that all these countries were destroyed in their original plane?
Thank you in advance!
For those where areas were moved to Ravenloft, you have two choices.
First, it's a just a copy of that area that was created in Ravenloft, with the Dark Powers looking in the original prime material plane for inspiration (ex Soth's castle in Sithicus).
Second choice is what you ask, i.e. when an area is really moved to Ravenloft from another plane. I don't recall any canon answer to this for any Ravenloft domain, so I guess you can make what you want.
Was it destroyed and water engulfed the place where it was (a la Atlantis ?)
Was it destroyed and nothing was left on a now sterile land ? (a la Kalidnay)
Since the mist plays with time also, what 'version' of the land was moved to Ravenloft ?
Etc.
Don't forget that many domains were created from scratch
Yeah ok some were created from scratch. What happened to the others? Can you give me info on Soth's castle? I haven't read anything about it. Did people still live there when Soth went to Sithicus?
However, in Ravenloft, Soth's castle was twisted to mock him.
Originally posted by Fredegar The White
Can you give me info on Soth's castle? I haven't read anything about it. Did people still live there when Soth went to Sithicus?
Best place to get info on Soth's castle on Krynn is in the Legends trilogy by Margaret Weis and Tracy Hickman. There are a few scenes in Dargaard Keep, but a lot is left to the imagination.
Another good source would be the 2e Ravenloft product "When Black Roses Bloom". Unless I'm wrong, it maps Nedragaard Keep (Soth's castle in Ravenloft) fairly nicely.
When Soth arrived in Sithicus, his castle was only inhabited by him and the banshees that torture him. Remember--when he arrived, he'd been a death knight for well on 350 years or so. No human in their right mind would go near his castle.
Dargaard Keep continued to exist in Krynn; when Soth returned from RL, the castle was there, waiting for him as if nothing had happened.
Sometimes the Mists will stretch forward and take the actual place from its original world, thus leaving ruins, a hole or nothing at all. Sometimes the Mists will create a copy of the original place and leave it.
In Ankhtepot's history it is said that, right after his mummification, his mausoleum - Pharaoh's Rest - vanished altogether from its original land, leaving only sand and mountains behind.
What happened to his castle in Krynn when he went to Ravenloft! Is there something written about it?
If I remember correctly, the only domains brought physically to Ravenloft are Barovia, Mordent, L'Ile de la Tempete, Blaustein, Har'Akir, Shadowborn Manor, Vorostokov, Kalidnay, Odiare, the Wildlands and Rokushima Taiyoo. Others, though they might be remniscient of the Darklord's home world, are simple creations of the Mists.
As far as I can tell, the Mists leave little behind except natural decor, sometimes a few ruins. Har'Akir left nothing but sand behind, l'Ile de la Tempete left a clear spot of sea where an island once was. The Wildlands are the only exception I can think of: according to Islands of Terror, the land was physically ripped out, as if by a giant crocodile's teeth, and taken to Ravenloft. Of course, since most of the domain's history is written in the form of a legend, it might be some storyteller's dramatic exaggeration.
There's a castle Ravenloft and the Zarovich blood line continued. I don't remember other details.
And you keep forgetting Forlorn wich was also ripped from the Prime in a cataclismic event (see Castles Forlorn)
Although it would probably be speaking metephorically and just things like buildings and people were removed. I doubt Kalidnay would have been too habitable after al the people and sentients were removed.
I preffer to think of the copying creation of Domains.
I doubt Kalidnay would have been too habitable after al the people and sentients were removed.
Kalidnay now is ruined and filled with monsters.
Mortavius wrote:
Now although the original castle Spulzeer still stands in the Realms, it is a blighted land, where Mists continually lay and horrible creatures are rumored to lair.
Aha! So we come to a close relation between the two sites!
Ok after all those posts (thank you giorgios! Thank you!) i propose this:
Large domains become barren land or dissappear in their original domain and smaller one's become haunted sites!
Anyone wants to add something?
Large domains become barren land or dissappear in their original domain and smaller one's become haunted sites but the Dark Powers leave whatever they see fit to leave.
Thanks everyone!!!!
Originally posted by Fredegar The White
You see i didin't know that!
What happened to his castle in Krynn when he went to Ravenloft! Is there something written about it?
Saw you didn't get an answer to this, so I figured I'd supply one:
As of the start of the Fifth Age, Soth's castle in Krynn is still there, in Nightlund.
(spoiler for War of Souls Trilogy)
However, Soth dies in the third book of the War of Souls trilogy (Dragons of a Vanished Moon). After spiting Takhisis, he regains his mortality and Dargaard Keep collapses on him. The ruins, though, are still there--just no death knight to haunt them.